Exulansic / TT Exulansic / Sierra Weir / Sierra Dullea Weir - TERF detransitioner/desister who has a crusade against the "I Am Jazz" phenomenon and also a massive collection of Party City wigs.

[Xenu Warrior Princess]

Exulansic was on Karen Davis's youtube channel last night and they were both doubling down on the CAIS bs and presuming the caricature to be racist/anti-semitic. Both of these women do great work but get caught up in conspiracies and drama which optics wise makes them look bad. You cant blame misogyny for everything - people are criticising Exulansic for valid reasons and it has fallen on deaf ears. Exulansics "I am very smart" energy has become impeachable and it is disappointing to see.

This a tl;dr.

I liked Karen initially. Started watching her youtubes when she got booted off of twitter.
A little acerbic and spicy, but she was going after arguably horrible people, so fine.
Then she went OCD on her need to pump out videos. Not enough targets, so first she would do multi-part vids taking down commenters of her vids.
Well, Benjamin Boyce can be trolly on twitter, which I can appreciate. So she came after him for something she claimed was obvious misogyny (It wasn't. Anyone normal would see he was trying to see if he got a rise out of the hard core feminist types, and he did).
Later, he had a online chat with Meghan Murphy. They joked about the "controversy".
So of course Karen had to make a video about the 2 of them. Seemed out the blue to them,
So they both replied in their own spheres about Karen being a Karen.

But once you do that, which is respond to Karen putting you in her sights, you are now the attacker and all gloves are off.
Now, most people she goes after are people in the gender critical/trans women are men camp. And her most rabid fans are egging her on. Anyone calling her out is just a new target to make videos about. Sometimes 20-30 in a row.
But she's not the bully or the snowflake, you see. Because reasons.

If you see her on Gettr, she has just gotten worse. Any woman who disagrees is a dumb broad, a handmaiden, a dick panderer.
I also liked Exulansic. I might disagree here and there, but I liked the observations she had. I didn't have a major disagreement until the CAIS issue. I could still watch her and disagree with that, but as soon as the Karen/Volkey crowd tried to make Exulansic "aware" that she should not appear on Boyce's show as he is a MRA, I knew the days I would watch her were numbered.
The purity spiral is picking up steam, but have these women NOT seen the eventual outcome of these things?

I mean it's feasible that being the very public face of TERFs, while doing spergy wig looks and also having all her information out there could have resulted in her being let go (or if she was freelance, not being offered more jobs).

I imagine she probably would have acknowledged that, though.

A few months back, as she was becoming more established on youtube after previously just being on TikTok, she said was going to try this as her job more.
Opened up a Patreon, found new therapists for some of her clients, etc.
So if she did cut back on her therapy work. losing Patreon and YouTube revenue could affect her.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

This a tl;dr.

I liked Karen initially. Started watching her youtubes when she got booted off of twitter.
A little acerbic and spicy, but she was going after arguably horrible people, so fine.
Then she went OCD on her need to pump out videos. Not enough targets, so first she would do multi-part vids taking down commenters of her vids.
Well, Benjamin Boyce can be trolly on twitter, which I can appreciate. So she came after him for something she claimed was obvious misogyny (It wasn't. Anyone normal would see he was trying to see if he got a rise out of the hard core feminist types, and he did).
Later, he had a online chat with Meghan Murphy. They joked about the "controversy".
So of course Karen had to make a video about the 2 of them. Seemed out the blue to them,
So they both replied in their own spheres about Karen being a Karen.

But once you do that, which is respond to Karen putting you in her sights, you are now the attacker and all gloves are off.
Now, most people she goes after are people in the gender critical/trans women are men camp. And her most rabid fans are egging her on. Anyone calling her out is just a new target to make videos about. Sometimes 20-30 in a row.
But she's not the bully or the snowflake, you see. Because reasons.

If you see her on Gettr, she has just gotten worse. Any woman who disagrees is a dumb broad, a handmaiden, a dick panderer.
I also liked Exulansic. I might disagree here and there, but I liked the observations she had. I didn't have a major disagreement until the CAIS issue. I could still watch her and disagree with that, but as soon as the Karen/Volkey crowd tried to make Exulansic "aware" that she should not appear on Boyce's show as he is a MRA, I knew the days I would watch her were numbered.
The purity spiral is picking up steam, but have these women NOT seen the eventual outcome of these things?

I wasn't aware Karen had gone that crazy, that's depressing. Ironically, I first saw her on Benjamin Boyce and thought she was lovely in that interview!

It took less than two years for gender critical youtube to turn into mean girl nonsense, this is really pathetic. These women are smart but they're arrogant and they don't know how to pick their battles. So they end up looking like dumb and bitter bitches in the end. It's a real shame.

Say what you will about people like James Lindsay and WokalDistance, who can be very bro-y and trolly on the Twitter, but they're out there producing podcasts and publishing books about woke nonsense and helping people understand and fight back. They're the stereotypical cishet overly educated white dudes, but they're doing more to fight troonery and help women than Karen and Exulansic are doing right now. But none of their fans wants to acknowledge that.

 

[stcstnr]

except Dalea WAS lying (no mention of that revelation hmm?) and they’re both right - the CAIS stuff isn’t “bs”; it’s scientifically accurate and this is nothing more than a purity test being applied to women who won’t make themselves easy to get along with. same shit, different day. what’s fucking hilarious here is the misogyny is so totally bereft of self awareness that the previous poster unironically says a couple of men are better for feminism then a couple of women wow like this whole charade hasn’t been about telling a couple of unrelenting women that they need to relent already and let the boys do whatever they want.

fact is all these GC men favour AGPs and pedophiles and it shows. they are not good allies to women. they will always prioritise other men above women and women scared of being next will always side with them. case in point. it’s so weak and obvious.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Karen and Sierra are correct about CAIS. The discussion has again become that females must be made to put up with males like Caster Semenya claiming to be women. They're males with DSDs. Intersex males are not women and cannot speak for women.

 

[stcstnr]

Karen and Sierra are correct about CAIS. The discussion has again become that females must be made to put up with males like Caster Semenya claiming to be women. They're males with DSDs. Intersex males are not women and cannot speak for women.

I mean, how dare some bitter bitches act all uppity and arrogant amirite? they should just shut up and know their place already! nothing worse than a woman being arrogant, only thing to do is punish her so she and every other woman around her knows not to step out of line again!

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

that the previous poster unironically says a couple of men are better for feminism then a couple of women

How is Karen shittalking women who disagree with her and Exulansic sperging about anti-semitism, making up condishions and taking jokes out of context good for feminism, exactly?

I mean, how dare some bitter bitches act all uppity and arrogant amirite?

If you act like an idiot on the internet you're going to get called out on it. You don't get a pass just because you have a vagina. Most posters here who are disappointed in Exulansic are female. She got a good thing going and ruined it by sperging out and acting like a lolcow.

Intersex males are not women and cannot speak for women.

No one said they can or should, that wasn't the point of the CAIS debate at all. If Exulansic made one good video on the matter explaining her opinion and citing her sources, people would have supported her! Instead she went on an autistic crusade and acted like she was more qualified to talk about the matter than a female specialist, and she went for the woman. And when people called her out she cried misogyny. Lol.

 

[stcstnr]

okay, pick-me I’m sure all the boys like you the very best

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

okay, pick-me I’m sure all the boys like you the very best

Oh, did you delete it?

Look, I really don't hate Exulansic or Karen. I just wish they'd get back to discussing things that matter. Until then I'm going to laugh at them.

 

[stcstnr]

Oh, did you delete it?

I thought I would write a real reply, but you’re right, that one was perfect and requires no additions.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

Women succumb to infighting about women who succumb to infighting, the thread.

And nothing of value was added or lost.

 

[stcstnr]

Oh, did you delete it?

Look, I really don't hate Exulansic or Karen. I just wish they'd get back to discussing things that matter. Until then I'm going to laugh at them.

girl you have got a really obvious case of resenting the uppity bitches who are going to RUIN EVERYTHING because the boys won’t like us anymore. Karen is annoying as hell and TT is a sperg and it still doesn’t change the fact they are RIGHT about everything and people just don’t like that they’re not nice enough about it.

Women succumb to infighting about women who succumb to infighting, the thread.

And nothing of value was added or lost.

shit how dare women have different opinions and discuss them! we could’ve solved this issue for the WHOLE WORLD here on kiwifarms if only we were just NICER to each other

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

shit how dare women have different opinions and discuss them!

I had a different opinion than yours, and you called me a 'pick me'. Cool discussion.

 

[Gar For Archer]

girl you have got a really obvious case of resenting the uppity bitches who are going to RUIN EVERYTHING because the boys won’t like us anymore. Karen is annoying as hell and TT is a sperg and it still doesn’t change the fact they are RIGHT about everything and people just don’t like that they’re not nice enough about it.

They’re not right about “everything”. They’re right that troons are gross and deluded, and that’s about it. This isn’t something that you need to be a genius to see - you really just need eyes.

The tards in this thread criticizing Exulansic for not being a model anti-troon are also delusional. It’s like they forgot the whole “RF” part of “TERF”. Just because you agree with them on the singular issue of trannydom doesn’t make them not loony bitches.

 

[Marvin]

Karen and Sierra are correct about CAIS. The discussion has again become that females must be made to put up with males like Caster Semenya claiming to be women. They're males with DSDs. Intersex males are not women and cannot speak for women.

The only way Sierra is correct about CAIS is if she believes at least one of:

1. Sex is a spectrum (ovotestis)
2. Some women have penises and should be in women's spaces (XX males)

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

The only way Sierra is correct about CAIS is if she believes at least one of:

1. Sex is a spectrum (ovotestis)
2. Some women have penises and should be in women's spaces (XX males)

That's incorrect. Theyre males and have testes. Females do not have testes, ever. Some produce sperm. Females don't do that either. CAIS is a male who doesn't react to his own androgens. He doesn't always have a vagina, and doesn't have a period. CAIS males are not and can never be women.

Bleeding heart for males with intersex birth defects elsewhere.

 

[Futaba]

I like unbridled rage as much as the next person when it comes to shitting on trans ideology - women have a right to be angry about the utter shite that is going on in the name of progressiveness. But it does nothing to get people on your side and if you are going to put yourself forward as the voice of reason you better be able to handle some critiques.

Obviously Karen and Exulansic can talk and do whatever they please but I think if Machiavelli was around he would say cut the sperging about DSDs and victimisation angles.

Marvin already explained the nuance about sexing a person with a DSD on page 8. But just from a female/human standpoint can you not imagine a young adolescent girl going to her doctors to find out why her period has not started and then being told its not something like PCOS they have CAIS. In your world the years of socialisation, normal development of the genatalia/body and society viewing you as a girl is immediately wiped out by this revelation for the girl with CAIS but not PCOS? You want the girl with CAIS to "live as a man" maybe attach a phallic object to themselves for good measure? How is that not conversion therapy, how is that not everything you are fighting against?

Do I think that people with Swyer syndrome like caster semenya should be able to compete against other women in sport? No, I dont think that they should due to the developmental differences and interventions that are required during puberty. Do I think Semenya is a woman - yes I do. You can have nuance - I know its hard when trans people will use this to trot out the "sex is a spectrum" argument. But you have to be clear that trans and DSDs are different.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Obviously Karen and Exulansic can talk and do whatever they please but I think if Machiavelli was around he would say cut the sperging about DSDs and victimisation angles.

If Machiavelli were around, who knows what he would say. And if he were and said something that agreed with you, who cares. You haven't made a point by referencing him. Its not clever or sophisticated, just stupid.

Marvin already explained the nuance about sexing a person with a DSD on page 8.

He explained his position but is nevertheless incorrect.

But just from a female/human standpoint can you not imagine a young adolescent girl going to her doctors to find out why her period has not started and then being told its not something like PCOS they have CAIS. In your world the years of socialisation, normal development of the genatalia/body and society viewing you as a girl is immediately wiped out by this revelation for the girl with CAIS but not PCOS? You want the girl with CAIS to "live as a man" maybe attach a phallic object to themselves for good measure? How is that not conversion therapy, how is that not everything you are fighting against?

What a lengthy and tiresome appeal to emotion. Sympathy doesn't change the fact that the CAIS male is unable to respond to his own androgens, and ends up with a malformed body. Only sometimes to CAIS males have a vagina, and even then its a dead-end pocket. I'm not prepared to say such deformed males are women, or are entitled to women's spaces, or to call themselves women. Its tragic, but that's the reality of living with a disability.

Do I think that people with Swyer syndrome like caster semenya should be able to compete against other women in sport? No, I dont think that they should due to the developmental differences and interventions that are required during puberty. Do I think Semenya is a woman - yes I do.

Semenya is a male with an intersex condition. I believe he's not a woman.

You can have nuance - I know its hard when trans people will use this to trot out the "sex is a spectrum" argument. But you have to be clear that trans and DSDs are different.

Intersex deformed males are not female. Im sympathetic to their plight but sympathy doesn't make them women. Womanhood is not a mantle that can be bestowed on male charity CAIS's. A woman is an adult human female.

 

[Marvin]

That's incorrect. Theyre males and have testes. Females do not have testes, ever.

That's a perspective, sure. But that is the "sex is a spectrum" perspective. It claims, because of the existence of ovotestes or streak gonads, that sex is a spectrum stretching between male and female at the extremes with lots of little ambiguities in the middle. I think that's a little absurd.

But beyond just being absurd, it's not useful medically or socially. It's really just a philosophical perspective.

 

[LikeRivenIRL]

Exulansic was on Karen Davis's youtube channel last night and they were both doubling down on the CAIS bs and presuming the caricature to be racist/anti-semitic. Both of these women do great work but get caught up in conspiracies and drama which optics wise makes them look bad. You cant blame misogyny for everything - people are criticising Exulansic for valid reasons and it has fallen on deaf ears. Exulansics "I am very smart" energy has become impeachable and it is disappointing to see.

Karen Davis is a decent musician. That's the only nice thing I can say lol. She is an absolute whackjob if ever there was one. I feel sorry for her husband lol.

except Dalea WAS lying (no mention of that revelation hmm?) and they’re both right - the CAIS stuff isn’t “bs”; it’s scientifically accurate and this is nothing more than a purity test being applied to women who won’t make themselves easy to get along with. same shit, different day. what’s fucking hilarious here is the misogyny is so totally bereft of self awareness that the previous poster unironically says a couple of men are better for feminism then a couple of women wow like this whole charade hasn’t been about telling a couple of unrelenting women that they need to relent already and let the boys do whatever they want.

fact is all these GC men favour AGPs and pedophiles and it shows. they are not good allies to women. they will always prioritise other men above women and women scared of being next will always side with them. case in point. it’s so weak and obvious.

Karen, is that you?

They’re not right about “everything”. They’re right that troons are gross and deluded, and that’s about it. This isn’t something that you need to be a genius to see - you really just need eyes.

The tards in this thread criticizing Exulansic for not being a model anti-troon are also delusional. It’s like they forgot the whole “RF” part of “TERF”. Just because you agree with them on the singular issue of trannydom doesn’t make them not loony bitches.

Exactly. Radical feminists have a problem with nearly EVERYTHING because they believe we are living in a patriarchal hellscape where every. single. thing. including behaviour, thoughts, etc. is tainted with the OoOoOO pAtRiaArchY 000ooo0oooOo. I always start with being partial to these RFs but then they just jump off that deep end and never come up for air lol.

 

[Tovarisz]

Eh, she's never going to do another entertaining video is she? It's all CAIS sperging and black history month analysis of lynchings (of course).

If she started out with that shit she'd still be on youtube because no one would have noticed she existed.

Too bad because the lengths people go to support their delusions is kind of a morbidly fascinating subject and far more entertaining then pseudo intellectual/philosophical "look how smart I am, bathe your ears in my dictionary of big words" sperging about fucking minutiae for hours on end.

Hopefully someone can pick it up and we can have a video commentary version of SRS and GRS thread, who knows maybe it'll even be picked up by someone more entertaining.