Canadian Truckers Convoy 2022 - The Leaf calls you a Nazi as he gasses you

[Glowie]

Do you know what's great about freedom convoy? We could great shitposting discussion for MONTHS Ferguson etc BLM are active day or do once nogs are satisfied burning down their own neighborhoods those happenings last only few days.

 

[HunterHearstHelmsley]

This is why libertarianism is falling out of favor for me. The philosophy in itself is nice but when society has lost its mind, that belief system is no longer viable.

The problem with libertarianism as a political movement is that it’s full of retard libertines like Dax Herrera who really just want a society where they can be a total degenerate without consequences. So many of them conflate libertarianism with social permissiveness. Why did libertarians support gay marriage? The libertarian position is that marriage shouldn’t be regulated by the Government. It doesn’t follow from that that if the Government regulates marriage it should allow all forms of marriage. Yet so many libertarians supported gay marriage on libertarians principles. If you support it then whatever, but it’s nothing to do with libertarianism. Even fucking Hayek and Mises said that insofar as laws exist, a society isn’t better by removing any particular laws. Some Government intervention is beneficial, given other extant Government intervention.

As you can, live without reference to "them". "Their" country isn't your country, never really was in the first place.

I think this is a good point. So much energy is wasted in opposition to ‘them’ and all it really does is feed the machine.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Don't think this has been posted, USA Today fact checks some claims. Per the rules of Happenings I will just post a couple of excerpts and provide a link. It's pretty funny.

Fact check: Posts mislead about crowd size, peacefulness at Canada ‘Freedom Convoy’ protest​

The claim: There have been no burned buildings or injuries at the ‘100,000 truck convoy’ in Canada​

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“100,000 Truck convoy..NOT One Building Is Burning & NOT One Person Hurt…” reads a Feb. 10 Facebook post from a page called The Truth.
The post accumulated more than 4,700 shares in less than a week. Users in the comments compared the convoy of truck drivers with the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riot and Black Lives Matter demonstrations, some calling the convoy a "true peaceful protest."

[wordswordswordswords]

As of Feb. 10, Ottawa police had responded to approximately 1,000 calls related to the demonstrations and issued more than 1,550 tickets, according to a news release. Police also said detectives were investigating hundreds of reports from the hate-motivated crime hotline.

[wordswordswordswords]

Our rating: Partly false​

Based on our research, we rate PARTLY FALSE the claim that there have been no buildings burned or injuries at the “100,000 truck convoy” in Canada.
The exact size of the "Freedom Convoy" is unclear, but estimates from officials and news reports are in the thousands. There is no evidence the crowd size is anywhere near 100,000, as the post claims.
It's true that there have been no reports of major injuries or burned buildings resulting from the demonstrations. But officials are investigating potential crimes associated with the convoy, and there have been reports of property damage.

https://archive.ph/if7D6

 

[timewave0]

Don't think this has been posted, USA Today fact checks some claims. Per the rules of Happenings I will just post a couple of excerpts and provide a link. It's pretty funny.

https://archive.ph/if7D6

So dishonest. Corporate media fact checkers should all be forcibly expelled and sent to Madagascar.

 

[Dude Snakes]

Eh, I'm more bothered about the dogs.

Kids don't get euthanized if not retrieved within a week. I think.

They could end up in CPS where they will likely be abused. The entire world is run by pedophiles, including Justin, this is getting nasty. The seizing/possible killing of pets was bad enough but I don't trust this insane/evil gov't with children for a second.

 

[Roybertitos]

Eh, I'm more bothered about the dogs.

Kids don't get euthanized if not retrieved within a week. I think.

Yeah that's what freaks me out, can you imagine your government killing your dogs out of spite? That's insanity. For many people that's like killing a member of your family.

 

[Balr0g]

So dishonest. Corporate media fact checkers should all be forcibly expelled and sent to Madagascar.

Well the Nazis wanted to do that with the Jews (if that was a serious idea) Imho we should send them to Venus since they have the same toxic vomit

 

[DiscoRodeo]

The problem with libertarianism as a political movement is that it’s full of retard libertines like Dax Herrera who really just want a society where they can be a total degenerate without consequences. So many of them conflate libertarianism with social permissiveness. Why did libertarians support gay marriage? The libertarian position is that marriage shouldn’t be regulated by the Government. It doesn’t follow from that that if the Government regulates marriage it should allow all forms of marriage. Yet so many libertarians supported gay marriage on libertarians principles. If you support it then whatever, but it’s nothing to do with libertarianism. Even fucking Hayek and Mises said that insofar as laws exist, a society isn’t better by removing any particular laws. Some Government intervention is beneficial, given other extant Government intervention.

I think this is a good point. So much energy is wasted in opposition to ‘them’ and all it really does is feed the machine.

I still tend to lead heavily libertarian, but agreed.

The biggest issue for me is just that, people consider liberty to just be a "freedom from" and ignore that within the ancient world "freedom for" was just as important. People don't know what to do with their freedom, have little to no purpose past consumerism (bugmen with funkopops), and what liberty entails, ranging from things like personal responsibility to a consistent set of individual principles, is just lost on them.

There's also the issue of, if youre addicted to X have no independent thoughts of your own, are completely plugged in to the media, have little to no critical thinking, are basically a philosophical zombie, free to do what you want but pretty much inevitably following jack and boot to the beat, are you really free at all?

But I digress. Too much of libertarianism is centered around issues that should be fringe politically.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

So dishonest. Corporate media fact checkers should all be forcibly expelled and sent to Madagascar.

I try to put myself in the head of some bugman who gleefully rubs his hands together and praises himself for the clever way he twists facts to support his RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY narrative and I just can't. Yet these people exist and walk among us.

As an aside Lehrer is a forgotten genius. I only knew him from the Demento Xmas album, but his other stuff is even better.

He's also still alive. 93 years old. He was drafted during the Cold War as an honest to God glowie working for the No Such Agency while writing songs like this. Spent most of his life as a math professor because touring as a musician "bored him.

And:

In 2012 rapper 2 Chainz sampled Lehrer's song "Dope Peddler", on his 2012 debut album, Based on a T.R.U. Story. In 2013, Lehrer said he was "very proud" to have his song sampled "literally sixty years after I recorded it". Lehrer went on to describe his official response to the request to use his song: "As sole copyright owner of 'The Old Dope Peddler', I grant you motherfuckers permission to do this. Please give my regards to Mr. Chainz, or may I call him 2?"

Fucking legend.

 

[Kiwisee]

So now it’s a matter of when are cops going to use violence, because that will lead to inevitable civil conflict.

Once there’s full blown civil conflict, it’s officially out of the government’s control and there’d no longer be anyone to protect the Bugmen anymore.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

So now it’s a matter of when are cops going to use violence, because that will lead to inevitable civil conflict.

Once there’s full blown civil conflict, it’s officially out of the government’s control and there’d no longer be anyone to protect the Bugmen anymore.

Haven't popped in here since the start, but "violence" was pretty much guaranteed since the start, like the emergency measures act as well.

I'm more concerned at this point not necessarily about the vaccine, but about separatism in Canada.

Even before this, a higher percentage of people in Alberta supported independence, than the percentage of people who supported the Trudeau government. Seeing how popular the convoy is out West, and in other Canadian provinces, I legitimately do believe that this may be a spark that revitalizes Western separatism again- especially if the Trudeau government tries to crack down on their liberties.

Quebec is more of a politically mixed bag with regards to the vaccine and covid controls, but they're always looking for an excuse to leave and the last referendum still had a sizable population wanting to leave.

Not trying to be alarmist, as I don't know if this will or won't happen, but the chances that separatism could occur at this point, are much higher.

If it does happen, Trudeau effectively would have killed the country over covid overreach.

 

[MugolEx]

I guess this is the violence black face is talking about.

 

[Yung Bach]

Yeah that's what freaks me out, can you imagine your government killing your dogs out of spite? That's insanity. For many people that's like killing a member of your family.

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I still tend to lead heavily libertarian, but agreed.

The biggest issue for me is just that, people consider liberty to just be a "freedom from" and ignore that within the ancient world "freedom for" was just as important. People don't know what to do with their freedom, have little to no purpose past consumerism (bugmen with funkopops), and what liberty entails, ranging from things like personal responsibility to a consistent set of individual principles, is just lost on them.

There's also the issue of, if youre addicted to X have no independent thoughts of your own, are completely plugged in to the media, have little to no critical thinking, are basically a philosophical zombie, free to do what you want but pretty much inevitably following jack and boot to the beat, are you really free at all?

But I digress. Too much of libertarianism is centered around issues that should be fringe politically.

Can anyone give me the lowdown on how libertarianism is anything other than controlled opposition? Systems as dysfunctional as communism have out competed libertarianism in practice, how is that excusable?

 

[DiscoRodeo]

Can anyone give me the lowdown on how libertarianism is anything other than controlled opposition? Systems as dysfunctional as communism have out competed libertarianism in practice, how is that excusable?

Controlled opposition? No, libertarians aren't controlled insofar as they start off as recalcitrant children.

They can be used to benefit the political opposition, but as far as it goes, its fetishization of liberty and the principles at the heart of the American revolution that got curbed when federalism was entrenched.

It can be dysfunctional, or functional, seems to work a lot better in places like Arizona (Goldwater, for example) or the West in general, but I wouldn't really consider it controlled opposition.

Reagan, as a Goldwater republican, ran on more libertarian principles and out competed communism in practice there.

 

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Haven't popped in here since the start, but "violence" was pretty much guaranteed since the start, like the emergency measures act as well.

I'm more concerned at this point not necessarily about the vaccine, but about separatism in Canada.

Even before this, a higher percentage of people in Alberta supported independence, than the percentage of people who supported the Trudeau government. Seeing how popular the convoy is out West, and in other Canadian provinces, I legitimately do believe that this may be a spark that revitalizes Western separatism again- especially if the Trudeau government tries to crack down on their liberties.

Quebec is more of a politically mixed bag with regards to the vaccine and covid controls, but they're always looking for an excuse to leave and the last referendum still had a sizable population wanting to leave.

Not trying to be alarmist, as I don't know if this will or won't happen, but the chances that separatism could occur at this point, are much higher.

If it does happen, Trudeau effectively would have killed the country over covid overreach.

There's absolutely 0 chance of a major Western nation being allowed to fracture like that. 0. None. Won't happen. They need Canada to be one nation to further The Great Reset and to subsidize socialist shitholes. Plus Canada is one way they backdoor shitty EU ideas into the USA's culture. They can't afford to have that fall apart.

They might try, but Trudeau and his globalist buddies would put it down, one way or another.

You're more likely to see Trudeau be outsted and the pressure building be released in that way than anything else.

 

[All Cops Are Based]

When he called it controlled opposition I think he means the libertarian party, which is 100% co-opted and globohomo at this point.

If calling libertarianism controlled opposition is inaccurate, it's because it's not even opposition to the establishment at this point, putting the question of it being "controlled" aside. What's wrong with mass immigration? Cheap labor is awesome, I mean, competition is at the heart of capitalism, deal with it rednecks.

 

[Sprocket]

If you really want, the House of Commons seating plan can be found here. I wouldn't worry about it though, mindlessly nodding in agreement with whatever your colleagues say is standard for the Liberal party, especially under Trudeau. Everyone in the government follows the memo and just recites whatever prewritten lines and talking points they are given. Conservative MP, Pierre Poilievre, once said that savings of 250 000 CAD in salary costs could be had by simply replacing Liberal MP, Randy Boissonnault, with a cassette player.

That was a schizopost made as a joke to bait conspiritards. A few of you caught on to that immediately, most didn't. Anyfart, being serious now:

I think Trudeau is done. I would be very surprised if his political career survives this. The correct thing for a man in his position to do when citizens are protesting, is to show your face and talk to them. With this particular protest, he had no excuse to not do so. Everyone watching can see that these protesters have no interest in violence and no interest burning shit to the ground, so there was and still is nothing stopping him from approaching them and engaging in some form of dialogue. Why is he refusing to do so?

Instead he accuses them of terrorism and calls them Nazis. This is something about the left that infuriates me. Every libtard pulls this shit. No matter what the topic is, it's "what, you disagree with me? REEEEEEEE NAZI!!!!" and seeing the prime minister of Canada doing that shit in parliament just shows how shameless these motherfuckers are. Spotted pic below on Twatter and even if its a joke, it paints a very accurate picture of how these so called "liberals" lunatics like Trudeau sees the world:

In the last few days what we saw from Trudeau is a man that is grabbing total and complete power over a country for himself. For the protesters, this is about mandates they don't agree with, but Trudeau's actions reveals an Eric Cartman-like character that demands obedience.

Disobey Trudeau, and get your assets frozen. There's rumors going around that even if private tow truck owners disobeys Trudeau by not towing away the Truckers, their lives are ruined. Is that true?

 

[Yung Bach]

Controlled opposition? No, libertarians aren't controlled insofar as they start off as recalcitrant children.

They can be used to benefit the political opposition, but as far as it goes, its fetishization of liberty and the principles at the heart of the American revolution that got curbed when federalism was entrenched.

It can be dysfunctional, or functional, seems to work a lot better in places like Arizona (Goldwater, for example) or the West in general, but I wouldn't really consider it controlled opposition.

Reagan, as a Goldwater republican, ran on more libertarian principles and out competed communism in practice there.

Call it whatever you want, but libertarians seem to only alienate moderates or sap the motivated/hardcore conservatives away from conservatism.

Also, what I mean by "out competed" is that communist nations actually exist, and they have existed in one place or another for over 100 years now, with some even becoming superpowers. By comparison, as far as I know, there has never been a single modern nation that could be described as a libertarian state.

My confusion is how anyone can seriously describe themselves as "libertarian" when unironic communists have proven to be more grounded. I mean, is there even a relevant libertarian party in any developed country? It seems like a joke.

 

[a lurking leaf]

Haven't popped in here since the start, but "violence" was pretty much guaranteed since the start, like the emergency measures act as well.

I'm more concerned at this point not necessarily about the vaccine, but about separatism in Canada.

Even before this, a higher percentage of people in Alberta supported independence, than the percentage of people who supported the Trudeau government. Seeing how popular the convoy is out West, and in other Canadian provinces, I legitimately do believe that this may be a spark that revitalizes Western separatism again- especially if the Trudeau government tries to crack down on their liberties.

Quebec is more of a politically mixed bag with regards to the vaccine and covid controls, but they're always looking for an excuse to leave and the last referendum still had a sizable population wanting to leave.

Not trying to be alarmist, as I don't know if this will or won't happen, but the chances that separatism could occur at this point, are much higher.

If it does happen, Trudeau effectively would have killed the country over covid overreach.

The east coast hates the prairies, we're ideologically incompatible (with the exception of the city lefties here of course lol) but they control our policies - we should be split into smaller countries. The US too.
It'll never happen for obvious reasons but in a not-retarded world it would make so much more sense to break into smaller countries. Look at China and Russia, the bigger the country, the harder you have to force everyone to get along.

Edit:

Disobey Trudeau, and get your assets frozen. There's rumors going around that even if private tow truck owners disobeys Trudeau by not towing away the Truckers, their lives are ruined. Is that true?

They pretty much made it so that if you're a tow truck driver and you refuse, you'll lose your business license at minimum, have your tow trucks seized, and probably end up in jail... so kinda

 

[Garm]

2 days after accepting the job, interim police chief of Ottawa Police Services has just tendered his resignation.

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I'm impressed with how quickly the Ottawa council and city leadership broke down once they were challenged.