Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[artilleryfroth]

If they were willing to settle, they would have before mediation, or would do it without court order. Mediation is court trying to force a resolution that neither party wants at the moment.

If Skordas billed Null for not doing anything, Null should fire him. If Skordas billed a full hour for reading a notice from the court, Null should likewise fire him. Thankfully, neither is likely to be true.

That's stupid.

When you graduate (I prefer to assume you are a first year college student whose uncle has a small practice, since that’s how you present), you will get to know the value of mediation. It’s a chance for the parties to understand when their case is shit. Mediation is why most cases don’t end up in litigation (trials).

Skordas will absolutely charge for reading that communication from the court, and delivering/explaining it to Null. Why did you assume he would charge an hour’s work for doing that? He’ll charge by the billable unit.

Maybe you’re not even a law student, if you don’t understand mediation, settlements, or billing.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

I get the impression that some here think that they will smack down Russ because he pissed them off, but I disagree on that. From their perspective, Russ is a stalker of unknown danger that has now set his sight on Heidi Klum, after he failed to get contact with various other victims.
We talk alot about when/if Russ will finally snap and go full postal on his 'woo victims' and we do so while laughing at his batshit insane and stupid antics, but to the lawyers he is a stalker that they need to put down to the best of their abilities, or else they would seriously endanger lives.

I don't think they're overly concerned about Heidi Klum. None of the lawyers are representing her best interests here. They're protecting AGT/Fremantle/Marathon/whatever corporation is signing their checks. They're concerned about the safety of the judges/other contestants precisely as far as it covers their corporate ass, no further.

That said, Russ isn't some ordinary idiot who's trying to sue them. He went out of his way to be as condescending and entitled as possible in his correspondence with Molly, so I wouldn't expect him to receive even the modicum of sympathy (or mercy) other litigious assholes might expect (even if that usual low level is undetectable to non-lawyers).

If we are going at it from this angle, "putting him down", blocking his outlet is the worst thing they can do. As long as he can shitpost lolsuits, he won't feel a violence is viable alternative. When the violence is the ONLY alternative, that's when things might get icky. And look what they want to do? Their team wants him declared as vexatious litigant, so I don't think they care about him being stalker or not that much. Well, they might believe they are doing good thing, tough.

They're not here to save the world. They're not even here to save thots. They're here to protect their corporate master's best interests. They give no fucks about the "will Russ ever kill someone" debate, no more than Gamestop's CEO ever wondered what would happen when Barb died. They want their problem solved, and if he becomes someone else's problem in the future, oh well.

Meanwhile, his lawsuits only work as an outlet when he thinks he can win. Whether or not he's declared vexatious, he's going to lose. And lose. And lose some more. He's already branching out into various PACs he can use as a diary/try to force change on the world rather than just legal filings. It's important to him that he not only has a place to air his plights, but that he feels like he might be able to manipulate reality into doing what he wants. It started with Facebook rants and blogs, and when he realized how limited his reach was/how little impact his rants had on the world, he shifted his focus. Russ's history is no doubt littered with abandoned world-changing projects we're not even aware of. I agree that he needs an outlet, but I'm skeptical as to whether lawsuits would provide that indefinitely.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Maybe you’re not even a law student, if you don’t understand mediation, settlements, or billing.

That's very ironic coming from you. Did you learn the basics of your field since the last time you pretended to be a NZ lawyer? Maybe you'll contribute to this thread by getting strokes over minor spelling mistakes again?

They're not here to save the world. They're not even here to save thots. They're here to protect their corporate master's best interests. They give no fucks about the "will Russ ever kill someone" debate, no more than Gamestop's CEO ever wondered what would happen when Barb died. They want their problem solved, and if he becomes someone else's problem in the future, oh well.

Finally, somebody gets it. This thread tends to over-idolize lawyers Russ' faces.

 

[AnOminous]

Mediation is awesome if both parties get proper legal advice, and understand the strengths and weaknesses of their case. Cases usually settle at or soon after the mediation.

That is when it isn't imposed by a court, though. Mediation, when both parties actually want to come to a reasonable agreement but for some reason are unable to do so, does often succeed. It requires both parties actually be acting in good faith, though, and some litigants are absolutely incapable of that. Mediation with vermin like Russ is such a case.

 

[moseph.jartelli]

When you graduate (I prefer to assume you are a first year college student whose uncle has a small practice, since that’s how you present), you will get to know the value of mediation. It’s a chance for the parties to understand when their case is shit. Mediation is why most cases don’t end up in litigation (trials).

Skordas will absolutely charge for reading that communication from the court, and delivering/explaining it to Null. Why did you assume he would charge an hour’s work for doing that? He’ll charge by the billable unit.

Maybe you’re not even a law student, if you don’t understand mediation, settlements, or billing.

Classic artilleryfroth. Shitting on anyone, including Skordas w/ a background in law.

Are you a famed LDS Paralegal as well?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Classic artilleryfroth. Shitting on anyone, including Skordas w/ a background in law.

Do you remember the meltdown he had over Skordas making minor spelling mistakes? Mods had to contain all that melting down into a separate thread, lol.

 

[moseph.jartelli]

Do you remember the meltdown he had over Skordas making minor spelling mistakes? Mods had to contain all that melting down into a separate thread, lol.

I sure do.. it was outstanding

 

[cromit]

When you graduate (I prefer to assume you are a first year college student whose uncle has a small practice, since that’s how you present), you will get to know the value of mediation. It’s a chance for the parties to understand when their case is shit. Mediation is why most cases don’t end up in litigation (trials).

Skordas will absolutely charge for reading that communication from the court, and delivering/explaining it to Null. Why did you assume he would charge an hour’s work for doing that? He’ll charge by the billable unit.

Maybe you’re not even a law student, if you don’t understand mediation, settlements, or billing.

You should not charge for doing that. First of all, it’s not worth the tenth of an hour—you’d spend more time trying to get the billing right than doing the task.. Second of all, that’s not the type of litigation update clients need. Clients need to know when their own responses are due, what the lawyer is doing about it, and if additional input/strategy is needed. Add to this that Null is a fairly sophisticated litigant when it comes to this stuff and doesn’t need it explained to him like you apparently would, you mong.

We all know what mediation does. Mediation will not work here because Russ is a tard and will never consent to settle, which you don’t seem to understand. It’s also not a pretrial mediation.

Every time you post in this thread, you waste everyone’s time.

 

[artilleryfroth]

That is when it isn't imposed by a court, though. Mediation, when both parties actually want to come to a reasonable agreement but for some reason are unable to do so, does often succeed. It requires both parties actually be acting in good faith, though, and some litigants are absolutely incapable of that. Mediation with vermin like Russ is such a case.

Is mediation not a normal requirement in that state?

You should not charge for doing that. First of all, it’s not worth the tenth of an hour—you’d spend more time trying to get the billing right than doing the task.. Second of all, that’s not the type of litigation update clients need. Clients need to know when their own responses are due, what the lawyer is doing about it, and if additional input/strategy is needed. Add to this that Null is a fairly sophisticated litigant when it comes to this stuff and doesn’t need it explained to him like you apparently would, you mong.

We all know what mediation does. Mediation will not work here because Russ is a tard and will never consent to settle, which you don’t seem to understand. It’s also not a pretrial mediation.

Every time you post in this thread, you waste everyone’s time.

Wow, you clearly aren’t a lawyer, unless you practice out of your mother’s basement. Real lawyers do bill by the unit of time. Real lawyers have clients, and practice out of major firms, not garages. Sorry boo.

You should not charge for doing that. First of all, it’s not worth the tenth of an hour—you’d spend more time trying to get the billing right than doing the task.. Second of all, that’s not the type of litigation update clients need. Clients need to know when their own responses are due, what the lawyer is doing about it, and if additional input/strategy is needed. Add to this that Null is a fairly sophisticated litigant when it comes to this stuff and doesn’t need it explained to him like you apparently would, you mong.

We all know what mediation does. Mediation will not work here because Russ is a tard and will never consent to settle, which you don’t seem to understand. It’s also not a pretrial mediation.

Every time you post in this thread, you waste everyone’s time.

If you don’t have a system set up where you can charge per unit of time, then you need to get a new setup. There are programs available where you can put in your case file numbers and just dump in the time you spend on each case each day. It’s pretty easy actually.

 

[Kosher Salt]

That's why the judge should grant the motion to compel, and stay the case pending the results of arbitration. That way Russ can't appeal.

The case couldn't just be stayed indefinitely, though, could it? At some point - either after Russ loses in arbitration, or (more likely) after he can't afford to go to arbitration and it just sits on ice for long enough - it's going to have to be dismissed. And then Russ could appeal that, because he's dumb enough that the fact that he's guaranteed to lose his appeal isn't going to dissuade him from trying.

Am I wrong?

 

[StinkySnack]

Wow, you clearly aren’t a lawyer, unless you practice out of your mother’s basement. Real lawyers do bill by the unit of time. Real lawyers have clients, and practice out of major firms, not garages. Sorry boo.

Thank God you're still here to make me look like much less of an asshole.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The case couldn't just be stayed indefinitely, though, could it?

It could until arbitration ends. That's rather normal in 9th circuit.

And then Russ could appeal that, because he's dumb enough that the fact that he's guaranteed to lose his appeal isn't going to dissuade him from trying.

Am I wrong?

What would he be appealing, though? The motion to compel?

Thank God you're still here to make me look like much less of an asshole.

You aren't an asshole, you are just sometimes very pedantic (which is good as it helps to keep true info and throw out bad ones)

 

[DarkAlien]

Is it just me or does Russ' signature continue to get worse and worse? This is the signature he used to sign the contract:
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His handwriting already looks like he had a stroke mid sentence, let alone adding an electronic pad in the mix

And to be fair I do think it's ridiculous that people can be sued for such obvious "puffery," which does not mean remotely what Russ thinks it means, it's not really an enormous injustice. Some Red Bull customers got $10 for free. And probably spend some of that on a Red Bull.

You're all giving him too much credit thinking he's using the legal puffery definition, I'd bet his tiny brain is talking about puffery like a bird/gorilla puffing it's chest and dancing around to impress and intimidate.

ETA Connecting Nevada and the new pac both have PO Box 46602 in zip 89114. Sharing resources between pacs (I would think) wouldn’t be very wise for PacMan. I wonder if he is going to try to run a college intern scam on these other two pacs too?

Pipsqueak pacman

That's very ironic coming from you. Did you learn the basics of your field since the last time you pretended to be a NZ lawyer? Maybe you'll contribute to this thread by getting strokes over minor spelling mistakes again?

Finally, somebody gets it. This thread tends to over-idolize lawyers Russ' faces.

Uhm, excuse you, according to her the only person here pretending to be a lawyer is Anominous

This thread isnt about the value of arbitration, specially as interpreted by someone who doesn't even practice in the US.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Uhm, excuse you, according to her the only person here pretending to be a lawyer is Anominous

Anominous isn't a licensed lawyer, though.

 

[Slobs]

How the hell did he manage to get through college, work in multiple fields, even game the legal system to harass untouchable rich women when he lacks the basic mental capacity to understand why his simping is pathetic, gross, and a complete waste of his time? Russ is even capable of keeping track of thousands of women that he's simping at, and even manages to allocate enough time to produce millions of replies to them. Where is that brain power when it comes to basic things like self-awareness, introspection, and pattern recognition? This is what makes Russel less of a lolcow and more of a horrorcow for me, he should know better, he could do better, but he doesn't, and he continues to perform his misdeeds with a level of enthusiasm that that should by all means be burnt out by now. He just doesn't make any sense, and I want this freaky alien sexpest locked up in a lab somewhere to be studied like the inhumane spectacle that he is.

 

[Hyacinth Bucket (Bouquet)]

Slightly off-topic from the "who is a real lawyer" debate (it's Jonathan Yaniv. He's the real lolyer.)

Recently Youtube decided that I might wish to watch an immensely depressing documentary on people born with cleft palates and lips in sub-saharan Africa. Apparently these people live terrible lives. The other children won't play with them. People call out rude names on the street and avoid them entirely. They aren't addressed by their name but rather by a rude insult about their face. The surgeons in the documentary fix their faces and then they're able to have friends.

On one hand this seems primitive and cruel. On the other hand, being nice to deformed people gave us Russell Greer. So I can see both sides.

 

[Cryin RN]

Russ is even capable of keeping track of thousands of women that he's simping at, and even manages to allocate enough time to produce millions of replies to them. Where is that brain power when it comes to basic things like self-awareness, introspection, and pattern recognition?

Yeah. That weird dichotomy is the best indication that he has a serious personality/delusion disorder. It's like how schizos can be brilliant at math, but terrible at not shitting themselves on the street while screaming at Jews. It's a glass-cannon brain that can only do one thing well, and for Russell the "well" is very subjective.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Recently Youtube decided that I might wish to watch an immensely depressing documentary on people born with cleft palates and lips in sub-saharan Africa. Apparently these people live terrible lives. The other children won't play with them. People call out rude names on the street and avoid them entirely. They aren't addressed by their name but rather by a rude insult about their face. The surgeons in the documentary fix their faces and then they're able to have friends.

Right, but do they have it as bad as Russ does? Have they even considered how Russ feels?

 

[Hyacinth Bucket (Bouquet)]

Right, but do they have it as bad as Russ does? Have they even considered how Russ feels?

They're not 8s or better and not blonde, so I'm not sure Russ would notice that they exist.

 

[AnOminous]

It could until arbitration ends. That's rather normal in 9th circuit.

If a case is stayed rather than dismissed then there has been no final disposition, and any appeal would be interlocutory. The FAA is one of the few statutes that expressly changes appellate jurisdiction over cases involving the statute that involve compelling arbitration, with a strong policy toward favoring the enforcement of arbitration clauses.

And remember he has to pay even to get past the part where he (obviously) loses in arbitration.