Preston Poulter et al v. Ali "Dean" Assaf et al (2021)

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

This case is just another example of "just because you're defendants, it does not mean you're friends."
But this situation could be an example of "cut the nose off to spite the face," too.
I was kind of hoping for this in Mignogna v. Funimation et al, but here we are.
I'm curious to see how this case ultimately is decided (right now, it does not look good for Dean).

 

[Doctor Placebo]

It's sad to hear them all sitting around chortling about these legal fantasies. No police officer ever contacted me about laughing at Preston's porn videos. That happened entirely in his imagination.

It's wild that they think there's any ending to this where you're ruined and they're not. From the sound of things, Pressed-in has NOT cut a deal with them, and doesn't intend to. I guess they think they have nothing to lose?

LOL.


The three of them have long held that the Vic case was a scam run by Rekieta. I dunno if they actually believe that, or that was the mode of attack they used because EVS and Rekieta are friendly. I suspect you're right, and it's the latter, because that case started after Roiloup got blown the fuck out by @FROG on Rekieta's show.

For my part, I have to say, unlike this case, I don't have any regrets about donating to help Vic. Regardless of how it ultimately turns out. After all, the money DID go to Ty. Vic had legal representation paid for by the community (including many Farmers, no doubt).

D&V mostly kept that view behind closed doors though. Roiloup, OTOH, has done multiple videos on his channel attacking Rekieta.

Such as...

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DBZ figures are gay porn dolls now? He's a weeb. He knows that's not true.

But, by far, the MOST cringe thing he ever did though was this...

It's supposed to be Part 1 of the "History of CG," and it's 41 minutes of him and his equally retarded brother talking about how awesome they think they are and ONLY THEY know the truth. It's one of the most cringe things I've ever heard.


Amazing isn't exactly the term I'd use. While this will never be the biggest lawsuit discussed on the L&L subforum, its quickly turning into the most surreal one.


Well, right now, they should be panicking over legal REALITY.

But, fuck that, let's talk about RIBBITCOIN from back in 2018. ETHAN MUST DIE, EVEN AS WE BURN!!!

Is this the guy who used to run the Shitty Webcomics Tumblr and makes the Kill Everything webcomic that's basically just edgy, ultraviolent, softcore porn? He always did seem to be on the spectrum in some way.

 

[AnOminous]

THEN another Kiwi (since halal'd) decided they were gonna become a lawyer and directly involve themselves in the drafting of legal filings in this case. Not go to law school and pass the bar exam or anything like that... just magically become qualified to draft documents and give legal advice. Because apparently that's a thing you can and should do.

At the time I thought it was actually a decision to file an answer and fight the case where it was to dispose of it on its merits, not to bravely default and lose to a lolcow with no strategy whatsoever. That would still probably be a viable strategy but these two don't seem big on strategy.

Imagine ending up this bamboozled by a pegged cuck like Preston.

 

[Captain Manning]

I was kind of hoping for this in Mignogna v. Funimation et al, but here we are.

That Monica, Jamie, and/or Funimation would turn on each other? Or that their motions to dismiss would have been received the same way Spectre's was?

Either way, I agree. We should take the result from Vic's case, and paste it onto this one. And then take the result from this case, and paste it onto Vic's.

Is this the guy who used to run the Shitty Webcomics Tumblr and makes the Kill Everything webcomic that's basically just edgy, ultraviolent, softcore porn?

Yes.

He always did seem to be on the spectrum in some way.

He is. @FROG has some critics that made some good points from time to time. He's not one of them though.

At the time I thought it was actually a decision to file an answer and fight the case where it was to dispose of it on its merits, not to bravely default and lose to a lolcow with no strategy whatsoever.

I think the plan was that Spectre was gonna gonna file a Rule 12(b) motion, and that would be the end of it. It didn't work, and what you're seeing now is the complete absence of a "plan B."

Imagine ending up this bamboozled by a pegged cuck like Preston.

It's looking like they might end up bamboozled by two cows.. Getting bamboozled by craterface is what allowed them to get bamboozled by peggy.

The moral of the story is: Only use actual lawyers for the legal needs. EVEN IF the person suing you is a pegged cuck.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

Dean was kind enough to answer some questions that I had regarding the status of the GoFundMe monies as well as why he didn't sign on with Ethan Van Scrivers motion to dismiss:

 

[Captain Manning]

Dean was kind enough to answer some questions that I had regarding the status of the GoFundMe monies as well as why he didn't sign on with Ethan Van Scrivers motion to dismiss:

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So, basically, what I told @AnOminous was right. He pinned his hopes on @Spectre_06 playing lawyer, and there was no "plan B."

I suppose it's up to @FROG to rebut his point about never contacting him. What he's saying doesn't make sense though because the agreement to sign-on would happen BEFORE Frog filed his motion and FROG provided receipts of his talking to Viki at least. Those messages had timestamps from July 26th. Dean filed his initial response on August 4th (though written on the 2nd). Dean says in the above conversation he thinks FROG made his offer after Dean filed his initial motion, but July 26th is clearly before August 4th. To the outside observer, this looks like a rejection of FROG's offer.

Regardless, I earnestly hope the kid gets a lawyer and can pull this situation out of the fire. What concerns me is that because all the primary motions were denied or never filed, it's now gonna be a LOT more expensive than it would have if he just hired an el-cheapo lawyer and signed on with Ethan in a joint motion raising the jurisdiction argument.

And also, Dean, going in so hard on Ethan looks really scummy. What with the timing, and the fact he offered to help you two. I dunno what's to be gained from it.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Dean was kind enough to answer some questions that I had regarding the status of the GoFundMe monies as well as why he didn't sign on with Ethan Van Scrivers motion to dismiss:

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So, basically, what I told @AnOminous was right. He pinned his hopes on @Spectre_06 playing lawyer, and there was no "plan B."

I suppose it's up to @FROG to rebut his point about never contacting him. What he's saying doesn't make sense though because the agreement to sign-on would happen BEFORE Frog filed his motion and FROG provided receipts of his talking to Viki at least. Those messages had timestamps from July 26th. Dean filed his initial response on August 4th (though written on the 2nd). Dean says in the above conversation he thinks FROG made his offer after Dean filed his initial motion, but July 26th is clearly before August 4th. To the outside observer, this looks like a rejection of FROG's offer.

Regardless, I earnestly hope the kid gets a lawyer and can pull this situation out of the fire. What concerns me is that because all the primary motions were denied or never filed, it's now gonna be a LOT more expensive than it would have if he just hired an el-cheapo lawyer and signed on with Ethan in a joint motion raising the jurisdiction argument.

And also, Dean, going in so hard on Ethan looks really scummy. What with the timing, and the fact he offered to help you two. I dunno what's to be gained from it.

Sounds like it could just be a case of poor communication and general cluelessness. Dean sounds like he's been completely lost throughout this whole thing, and was counting on fake Navy SEAL non-lawyer to handle everything. He's not even sure if @FROG's filing happened before or after he responded to the lawsuit.

Doesn't explain why he seems more mad at Ethan than Spectre. I guess raging against some random stolen valor Farmer isn't as good for Youtube views and Twitter likes. Although him going after Spectre sounds a hell of a lot more entertaining to me.

 

[SargonF00t]

Sounds like it could just be a case of poor communication and general cluelessness. Dean sounds like he's been completely lost throughout this whole thing, and was counting on fake Navy SEAL non-lawyer to handle everything. He's not even sure if @FROG's filing happened before or after he responded to the lawsuit.

Doesn't explain why he seems more mad at Ethan than Spectre. I guess raging against some random stolen valor Farmer isn't as good for Youtube views and Twitter likes. Although him going after Spectre sounds a hell of a lot more entertaining to me.

It's like Dean & Vikki are thinking that if EVS didn't exist, they wouldn't have any of these legal problems and are irrationally hating on EVS for all their problems.

Vikki appears unhinged in recent days on Twitter and I am feeling embarrassed that I said I liked her.

Hopefully she pulls out of this tailspin.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

One last thing, it's possible @FROG DIDN'T contact Dean when he filed the motion, but to be fair, that's not really his fault. He told both of them earlier he was willing to include them, and from the sound of things, they never responded. A simple "Yes please" would have gotten him to let them know when he was filing, but they said nothing and just left the ball in his court. It's not his responsibility to keep contacting them when they aren't speaking to him.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

One last thing, it's possible @FROG DIDN'T contact Dean when he filed the motion, but to be fair, that's not really his fault. He told both of them earlier he was willing to include them, and from the sound of things, they never responded. A simple "Yes please" would have gotten him to let them know when he was filing, but they said nothing and just left the ball in his court. It's not his responsibility to keep contacting them when they aren't speaking to him.

FROG isn't his dad and shouldn't have to spoon-feed him. It's a lot of copes and mental gymnastics to defend what can only be described as retardation.

 

[AnOminous]

And also, Dean, going in so hard on Ethan looks really scummy. What with the timing, and the fact he offered to help you two. I dunno what's to be gained from it.

That part is absolute lunacy. I know @FROG has been subject to some fairly harsh criticism, even from this site, but why the fuck would you basically get ass raped by a pegged cuck like Preston (possibly the gayest male name of all time) rather than just join in his motion and probably win like he did.

Are you two idiots actually this dumb?

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

After I contacted Dean and then posted the logs here someone reached out to me claiming to have a recording of Dean answering some questions about the lolsuit. He said that Dean knew that he was being recorded.

Video source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2N2HakX9No recorded & uploaded Feb 21, 2022

Here is my autistic transcription:

- SaggyMelonz (the person who started the GoFundMe) and DA Talks are being interviewed by Mockulous
- The first question that was chopped off was "What is going on with the lawsuit?". Dean says that if he doesn't spend the money on legal representation then he will donate it to the Institute of Free Speech. He said that since the motion to dismiss didn't go through he's been looking for a lawyer.
- Someone says they heard rumors that he's been spending money, SaggyMelonz interjects and says that Dean still has a job. DA Talks confirms that he has a job.
- SaggyMelonz says that Dean has the money because otherwise he'd be going after her and making videos about her saying he hasn't received it. After she sent him the money she stopped following the lolsuit and stopped asking for updates.
- Dean corroborates what SaggyMelonz said.
- When asked "Wheres the beef?" Dean says JDA and @NasserRabadi13 come up with fake shit all the time.
- Dean says that nothing has happened to the money and he's trying to find a lawyer. When pressed for proof such as a bank statement he says no.
- Mockulous says "Why don't you hire Spectre?" and SaggyMelonz says as Deans non-legal counsel not to do it.
- Mockulous says "Remember how he bragged about writing all your shit and then he nuked it after he realised how much he fucked up?" Dean ignores this statement.
- Mockulous then says "Many people on the farms were saying for you to not fucking go with spectre, what do you gotta say to that?" which Dean replies "Ok".
- "Mockulous continues with "Well you know Spectre is notorious for being a fucking liar".
- Someone else interjects with "I had heard that you were going to Spectre for lawyer advice".
- Dean denies asking Spectre for legal advice.
- SaggyMelonz cleans it up for Dean by saying that if she had a legal issue in the past and a friend asked her for it then she'd give her friend advice. She says that there is a difference between a friend giving advice and a lawyer giving advice. Is Spectre your buddy, Dean?
- Dean says "What it was, was that I had Spectre write up what I wanted, and that was it. I didn't ask him for advice.
- SaggyMelonz copes and says "Like your secretary"
- Dean (also coping) says "Essentially"
- Mockulous then begins again saying "Spectre was bragging on the farms about how he was writing it up"
- Dean says "He wrote what I told him I wanted in there"
- Mockulous says "He didn't mention that"
- Dean addresses Mockulous (who also goes by POD I guess, idk?) "We've already talked about this"
- Mockulous says that he forgot
- Dean getting emotional (could be his yenta sounding voice) says "I've literally told you this"
- SaggyMelonz sums up Dean giving up his chance to sign onto FROGs motion to dismiss and getting Spectre to write his motion to dismiss as "So everyone is mad because you got someone to type something for you".
- Dean confirms this and says getting Spectre to write his response would have been retarded. He says that he doesn't know if Spectre embellished it because he knows that Spectre likes to embellish.
- Mockulous then asks Dean "So what you're saying is that you did all your research and all Spectre did was just write that shit up, right? All he did was just wrote the shit that you wanted?".
- Dean, 5 years old with his hand in the cookie jar says "Yeah".

Mockulous I just want to say you're a real nigga, thanks for this. And Dean, hire a fucking lawyer! Hire a lawyer yesterday! Your Grandma-gf won't save you, your stolen valor napalm scarred paralegal will only make things worse! Get a lawyer!

 

[FROG]

So, basically, what I told @AnOminous was right. He pinned his hopes on @Spectre_06 playing lawyer, and there was no "plan B."

I suppose it's up to @FROG to rebut his point about never contacting him. What he's saying doesn't make sense though because the agreement to sign-on would happen BEFORE Frog filed his motion and FROG provided receipts of his talking to Viki at least. Those messages had timestamps from July 26th. Dean filed his initial response on August 4th (though written on the 2nd). Dean says in the above conversation he thinks FROG made his offer after Dean filed his initial motion, but July 26th is clearly before August 4th. To the outside observer, this looks like a rejection of FROG's offer.

Regardless, I earnestly hope the kid gets a lawyer and can pull this situation out of the fire. What concerns me is that because all the primary motions were denied or never filed, it's now gonna be a LOT more expensive than it would have if he just hired an el-cheapo lawyer and signed on with Ethan in a joint motion raising the jurisdiction argument.

And also, Dean, going in so hard on Ethan looks really scummy. What with the timing, and the fact he offered to help you two. I dunno what's to be gained from it.

There was absolutely no interest shown in what I was offering, because again, taking advantage of the opportunity for them meant having lawyers, which Dean still does not. Vikki claims to have one, but no one has entered themselves on the record as her representation, and although I have zero legal expertise, I'm told from those who do that this would certainly have already happened.

Frankly, I think both of them were deflated that I wasn't going to be able to take care of this problem for them all by myself. That was the feeling I got after I made the offer to join. But I don't know for sure, you'd have to ask them.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

The deadline for Dean's conference with Preston is Wednesday, and his current plan is to call the Texas bar on Monday and tell them he needs immediate help and that he only has $1,000 to work with. How is he just now getting around to asking for a referral? The denial of his motion to dismiss was previewed a month ago. He was given two weeks to object, and did not, and is now barred from appealing.

The talk in the discord was very dismissive of the concerns people had. "HE HAS A JOB!" Ok, but the lawsuit was filed 9 months ago and he's speaking as if the only money he has to defend himself is from the GoFundMe. So not only did he not do any research in all that time, dude didn't save a single penny. We still don't have an answer to why the goal was set at $1,000 and then shut down. He at least understands this is not nearly enough.

"I never went to Spectre for lawyer advice", "I had Spectre write up what I wanted and that was it. I didn't ask him for advice",
He was your secretary?
"Essentially," "He wrote what I told him I wanted in there,"
So everyone's mad you had someone type something for you?
"Yes."

This would make sense, if Dean was an attorney and Spectre was a paralegal. What is the message he wants to convey, that he could've done the work himself, but didn't because it wasn't worth his time?

What he's saying doesn't make sense though because the agreement to sign-on would happen BEFORE Frog filed his motion

"Ethan offered that and I figured he'd contact me when he filed but he didn't, and so I filed my own. This was after I had already answered the lawsuit." (it was actually a week before he answered the lawsuit)

Not paying attention, pawning the work off, expecting CyberFrog to keep him on task, doesn't contribute any of his own income to his defense. All I'm hearing from Dean is that he's lazy and irresponsible, which is pretty funny considering what he and his partner in crime like to complain about. It's his life, so that's his prerogative. I don't think reality has sunk in yet. It may on Monday, when he comes calling, cash in hand, and the only thing he can afford is a condom for Preston to put on before he gets fucked.

 

[Captain Manning]

When asked "Wheres the beef?" Dean says JDA and @NasserRabadi13 come up with fake shit all the time.

Which becomes REALLY funny and ironic later on...

Mockulous then says "Many people on the farms were saying for you to not fucking go with spectre, what do you gotta say to that?" which Dean replies "Ok".

After a REALLY uncomfortably long pause.

Dean confirms this and says getting Spectre to write his response would have been retarded. He says that he doesn't know if Spectre embellished it because he knows that Spectre likes to embellish.

This is the money shot.

@TheCosmicWarrior, @NasserRabadi13, and @FROG "make up fake shit." But Spectre merely "likes to embellish."

There's euphemisms, and then there's euphemisms.

Dean, my son, Spectre is what psychologists call a pathological liar. This is now very well documented on the Farms. It's why he's been gone from the site since last October. He's now out of plausible enough sounding lies to cover up all the other lies. Given the uncomfortable laugh you gave when people once again warned you against using him again, it's like you know, but don't want to accept it. Either he wrote it, or he lied.

For Christ's sake. THIS is still on Spectre's Youtube account, and that's the account he wrenches in your channel with.

Archive: https://archive.md/hpC8b

Frankly, I think both of them were deflated that I wasn't going to be able to take care of this problem for them all by myself. That was the feeling I got after I made the offer to join. But I don't know for sure, you'd have to ask them.

That's ridiculous if it's their motivation for all the hate now. Especially considering the three of you have had a rather acrimonious relationship for a long time. Even when Peter Thiel funded Hulk Hogan's lawsuit against Gawker, it wasn't after Thiel and Hogan had been on each other's throats.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

So, when I reached out to Dean earlier today I actually also reached out to SaggyMelonz via discord DM. She was cooperative but Dean had already responded to me and I got the impression that she was telling the truth so I figured it wasn't really worth dredging her name up more here.

However, later tonight she reached out to me to clear the air to answer some questions people had about the GoFundMe here.

So I'm guessing that it was either Dean or Spectre who set the goal at 1k. Maybe they thought that's all they'd need? Or maybe they thought that people just wouldn't really give a shit about Dean enough to pony up any more money than that? I wasn't really following gay ethics in comics drama at the time so I don't know if the big names at the time tried to signal boost Dean or not? I'm guessing not. He seems to have picked a lot of fights and alienated a lot of people for those measly 500 viewcount videos. Plus his grumpy Grandma-GF Vikki isn't going to win any popularity contests either.


Something I didn't see covered here, on the 17th of February Deans brother Crow covered this very thread and the lolsuit!

source: https://youtu.be/ixv55Pde0pk?t=345

He seems to be keeping up with all the happenings. His opinions seem to mirror many of those in this thread, whilst they might not like Dean they think the lawsuit is bullshit. He says that Dean and Vikki were stupid and should have gotten the lawsuit dismissed. Crow, I hope Dean doesn't end up dipping into your shared inheritance to help defend himself in court!

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

So a cuckold is the chad all along?

 

[Goatsehole]

People keeping saying that this lawsuit is bullshit. Granted Peggy is a terrible person & a fucking weirdo but the lawsuit is within reason. Vikkis shit talking and lying about people is finally catching up to her. Her being in a defamation lawsuit is pretty valid & expected. It just took Peggy to actually do something when most people would ignore vikki.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

However, later tonight she reached out to me to clear the air to answer some questions people had about the GoFundMe here.

Am I reading this correctly, Dean didn't update her on his progress toward getting a lawyer, so she closed the GoFundMe? If so, props to her for being proactive in protecting would be donators.

Dean really screwed himself by putting this off. His legal costs are going to be much higher than they could have been, and who would give him money now? Anything he earned crowdfunding might go straight to Preston, either as part of a settlement or to pay down his debt.

 

[Strix454]

People keeping saying that this lawsuit is bullshit. Granted Peggy is a terrible person & a fucking weirdo but the lawsuit is within reason. Vikkis shit talking and lying about people is finally catching up to her. Her being in a defamation lawsuit is pretty valid & expected. It just took Peggy to actually do something when most people would ignore vikki.

In terms of what Vikki is known to have said and what is in the complaint, she did almost nothing that could rise to the level of defamation IMO. Dean and FROG both said worse things
from a legal point of view. (and I still don't think any of their stuff rises to defamation either).

The worst direct quotes they could find were the following:

“Created woman that looked like they were underage.”
“a woman that looks like that you would go to jail for f_______.”
“its Loli in 3D reflection.”
“just because Loli is legal it doesn’t mean it not child porn.” (a double negative)
“woman that are created young enough to look like they’re underage.”

I've yet to see anything attributed to her that defamed Preston at all. The only quotes they could come up with to defame Lamont
are those that offer an opinion that he draws characters that appear to be underaged.

From a strictly legal point of view, the lawsuit is within reason. Its within reason in the same way that the lawsuits of the mountain jews
are considered within reason by the federal courts. People have a right to bring legal actions that are bad and a waste of time & money.

But on the other side, these lawsuits were all stupid in that if properly defended, they would have all failed on the question of jurisdiction.
All the precedent in the 5th Circuit (including Texas) was against jurisdiction being granted in this case.