Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Still not seeing how it isn’t. Doubt Ukraine is gonna do shit now.

If it wasn’t fake news Ukraine would disavow the eastern regions, fastrack join nato, then proxy war vs russia.
Blue balled for 8 years. Like a stripper teasing me, then finally agrees to blow me and when she deepthroats, it triggers a gag reflex and now my dick has vomit on it. The moral of the story is don't have sex with strippers.
 
I trust TASS to tell me more about this than any American or European news organization.
The more things change, the more they stay the same
one swell thing about the united states is that newspapers can print whatever stories they want. another one is that nobody has to read them. ... anyway, whatever the constitution says about the press, we americans should be darned glad it says it. in the soviet union, the press is controlled by the official news agency, tass, which is always giving out highly amusing versions of world events: moscow–tass, the official soviet news agency, announced today that soviet troops have entered poland, czechoslovakia, hungary, iran, albania, mongolia, egypt, norway, and saskatchewan at the request of liberation movements fighting the western capitalist colonialist zionist hegemony of running-dog pipe-carrying widow-stabbing baby-eating lackeys of united states imperialism. tass said the soviet forces will ride around in nuclear-powered tanks until the various countries are safe from the threat of further oppression. i imagine the russian people regard tass as a major chuckle. i bet they can’t wait to see the paper each day, so they can read what isn’t going on in the rest of the world. in fact, this is the big advantage their system has over ours: since the russian government always lies, the people can safely assume that the opposite of whatever tass says is true. over here, things are more complicated. our government lies a lot, too, but it can’t force the newspapers to print the lies accurately. from time to time the reporters try to get at the truth, and once in a great while they succeed. so you can be fairly sure you’re reading lies, but, unlike the russians, you can never really count on it.
 
Lots of old soviet industry and ship building capability.

Kharkhov for example has the biggest tank factory in the world...since the 1930s. Its literally an entire city in an of itself. Ukraine uses it still today
That tank factory is useless for Russia. It's only geared to build and repair obsolete T-64 and T-84 tanks that no one really wants. The only reason why Ukraine is using them is that they can't afford anything better.

A lot of industries in Ukraine will be useless if there are no willing and able people to run them. I still can't see any genuine benefit for Russia from anything that they are doing.
 
Still not seeing how it isn’t. Doubt Ukraine is gonna do shit now.
Russia recognizes the two separatist nations, crosses the Ukraine border with troops, and prepares for a scrap over 50-70 miles of LNR/DNR claimed-but-unheld land.
Just because it's not gone nuclear doesn't mean it's a nothingburger - how many oblasts must Ukraine lose before it's something?
 
Dude, it's 2022 or something. False fags don't have to be believable, the government just needs to say it is, get their domestic MSM to repeat it, and the pesky details will soon be forgotten by most normies by the time the missiles are flying anyway. It wasn't believable that Saddam Hussein had WMD and was about to do Norm-11 Part 2, it wasn't plausible that the Serbs were doing a Holocaust to the Kosovans, and I don't think they even bothered to come up with a good excuse to murder Colonel Gaddafi and turn Libya into Mad Max: The Country.
Oh, they aren’t believable but the problem is that they aren’t even believable to the Russian populace, and certainly not to the Chinese. It’s really funny, they had this big elaborate video all set to go and then poof, rug pulled out from under them. Now they’re resorting to having the seperatists shell themselves again as usual, blowing up cars in both regions, bombing a field in Russia, blowing up a border patrol station, and blowing up some Russian vehicles they claimed were Ukrainians crossing the border. It’s funny because of how pathetic it is.
 
That tank factory is useless for Russia. It's only geared to build and repair obsolete T-64 and T-84 tanks that no one really wants. The only reason why Ukraine is using them is that they can't afford anything better.

A lot of industries in Ukraine will be useless if there are no willing and able people to run them. I still can't see any genuine benefit for Russia from anything that they are doing.
Have you considered that it makes Putin get to act like a strongman leader and appeal to ethnonationalist russians? And it makes his dick hard?
 
US Diplomats showing their commitment by bravely retreating from Lwow (having already left Kiev) into Poland, NATO'S actual red line. It's on people

 
Considering that the United States political and media establishment has literally done severe damage to the nation in order to make sure that people hate Russia, I am inclined to believe that the United States is a bad actor propping up other bad actors and that Russia is probably opportunistically-neutral at worst.
 
US Diplomats showing their commitment by bravely retreating from Lwow (having already left Kiev) into Poland, NATO'S actual red line. It's on people

Probably a temporary measure until they get a sense for how the war is going to progress and where they can set up shop and not instantly get blackbagged by gopniks. It's not like the diplomats are going to have much to do once shit hits the fan anyway.

Considering that the United States political and media establishment has literally done severe damage to the nation in order to make sure that people hate Russia, I am inclined to believe that the United States is a bad actor propping up other bad actors and that Russia is probably opportunistically-neutral at worst.
This is brain-damaged burgercentrism at its finest. Not everything that happens in the world is about your retarded American culture wars.
 
Probably a temporary measure until they get a sense for how the war is going to progress and where they can set up shop and not instantly get blackbagged by gopniks. It's not like the diplomats are going to have much to do once shit hits the fan anyway.

To me it indicates that they expects a Russian attack south from Belarus through Western Ukraine to put Lwow at risk, which points to Putin going for maximalist aims of complete annexation/dictating terms to a Ukraine rump state rather than a more limited incursion e.g. to the Dnieper line
 
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To me it indicates that they expects a Russian attack south from Belarus through Western Ukraine to put Lwow at risk, which points to Putin going for maximalist aims of complete annexation/dictating terms to a Ukraine rump state rather than a more limited incursion e.g. to the Dnieper line

If they stop there I'll honestly be okey. Believe this old Axis idiot in one thing if you must, and that is that russians are motherfucking crazy and will fuck anything up. They aren't goatbangers or some nigger shithole. They may be poor, but they are extremely vicious and aggressive.

If the mighty Reich could not stop them, Ukraine won't stand a chance.
 
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If they stop there I'll honestly be okey. Believe this old Axis idiot in one thing if you must, and that is that russians are motherfucking crazy and will fuck anything up. They aren't goatbangers or some nigger shithole. They may be poor, but they are extremely vicious and aggressive.

If the mighty Reich could not stop them, Ukraine won't stand a chance.

Americans stumbling into this thread to say Russia is a poor basket case, well duh, it always has been, and still managed to be a great expansionist power by being cunning, relentless, tough and vicious. Becoming a great power via mercantile wealth despite military and elite class incompetence is an anglo-saxon thing
 
Chances on Russia just going full crazy taking the lot and just going scorched Earth rather than trying to keep it (or at least the western part). Keep the bits you can comfortably keep under control and ensure the rest is not going to be in a position to challenge you or join NATO any time soon.
 
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Came back in to ask: are the bullets flying yet? And am I gonna get drafted to fight in some country I don’t even know the location of?
 
Have you considered that it makes Putin get to act like a strongman leader and appeal to ethnonationalist russians? And it makes his dick hard?

it's not actually, there are very few hard core Slav nationalists in Russia, and I am not talking the monarchists under shit-piss-cum flag (literally white-yellow-brown
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). Every one of them have been saying, from 2014, the policy is fucking disaster. White slavs are rapidly replaced by econ migrants from near-East. Youth with potential leaves to cities and then abroad. Economy is shit and Russian villages/towns outside of bigger cities have been dying wholesale. And now on top of that, the weakening Slav world is being fractured for no reason, which will last for many generations.

Those are the real Slav etnonationalists. The only people Putin makes hard are older USSR-masturbators who failed in life (and thus reminiss of better times when they were younger and they were paid for working 9-5) and revisionists who never lived in USSR but think that it was paradise. Most of them think that better USSR times are just around the corner and Putin will rebuild USSR (and by extension their lives) ... you just need to wait few more years and fight evil capitalists, ad noseum.
 
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