Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

If you don't know how to lift just watch a fucking manual handling training video. Keep your back straight and lift with the knees. That's it. Also don't lift too heavy unless you're retarded and want back issues in later life, personal records don't mean shit if you're just lifting for aesthetics.

You'll think you look stupid the first few times if you're only lifting to your waist level but it's VERY important for building core strength before you go into harder training.
 
Kettlebells are great for all sorts of exercises, if you're trying to not have a lot of stuff they can take the place of dumbbells for a lot of movements but not everything. I'm not sure what you mean by "Lady's sized" kettlebell, my lightest is 8 kilos/18 lbs and I use that for warming up for certain movements like getups. If the one you have is about that weight that is a good starting point if you are generally out of shape, focus on form like I said before.

DO NOT follow videos from Crossfit instructors, they are mocked for a reason because they do not follow safe form standards. Also, do cardio; gym rats won't do cardio because it adds 20 - 30 minutes onto an already long work out. Their workout would take less time if they actually had stamina.
I'm using a 15, and most guides I've looked at recommend men start at 20-25, some are even saying 35. But that's not gonna happen. I attempted the Turkish get up and I can JUST about wrangle the 15 on my offhand.

I honestly don't know what counts as cardio in this context, but I'm trying to speedwalk about 1.3 miles every day or other day. If that seems like a weird number, that just happens to be how far it is to the end of my neighborhood sidewalk and back. My speed bottleneck at this point is my legs hurting, much more than lungs getting stressed. I'm hoping that will get better as I get stronk.

There are the demos I'm using to get started.


Fuck kettlebells IMO, they are just a Toe Rogan meme at this point. I'm not saying they can't be a little effective, but if you 'hate exercise', they aren't gonna fix that. Hit the gym instead, it'll help you to be around others who are disciplined and motivated, that shit will rub off on you and you'll learn to love exercise instead of hating it. I know it can be intimidating for some, but the best people I've ever met have been inside the gym.

The gym is horrible. I've joined gyms 2 or 3 times now. They're awful. I hate the atmosphere and the general concept. That's why I've been trying to do literally anything else. I am much more likely to actually do something that can be done at home.

I should also probably say in general, I have no interest in big muscle or big number. Only functionality.
 
I'm using a 15, and most guides I've looked at recommend men start at 20-25, some are even saying 35. But that's not gonna happen. I attempted the Turkish get up and I can JUST about wrangle the 15 on my offhand.

I honestly don't know what counts as cardio in this context, but I'm trying to speedwalk about 1.3 miles every day or other day. If that seems like a weird number, that just happens to be how far it is to the end of my neighborhood sidewalk and back. My speed bottleneck at this point is my legs hurting, much more than lungs getting stressed. I'm hoping that will get better as I get stronk.

There are the demos I'm using to get started.




The gym is horrible. I've joined gyms 2 or 3 times now. They're awful. I hate the atmosphere and the general concept. That's why I've been trying to do literally anything else. I am much more likely to actually do something that can be done at home.

I should also probably say in general, I have no interest in big muscle or big number. Only functionality.

My honest recommendation to you is to stick with the ultra basic shit when starting out with Kettlebells; Swings, curls, overhead presses, squats, halos, shit like that. Leave the more acrobatic shit like turkish get ups for later down the line when you build some strength. For cardio, walking is the best place to start, if you're having shin splints from walking a mile, you're going to have to keep at it until you get your body accustomed to moving. You clearly live a sedentary life style, you're going to need to build up slowly over time, it's not weird.

If you really want to save space and money and think you're enjoying the kettlebell, try an adjustable. Titan Fitness has one that's about $100, it goes from 10 - 40 lbs, that will hold you over for a while. When you get more accustomed to walking, start running for a portion of the mile, when you run our of breath catch it as you keep walking forward. Eventually you'll be running a mile without issue, but watch your feet, I sprained my ankle in December and that shit sucks.

Take an inventory of your normal diet and you'll quickly realize you're eating more calories and carbs than you thought and very little protein. If your only goal is to get stronger, you can do that for free. wake up early, do as many pushups, sit ups, and squats as you can and then do your cardio building up each slowly over time.

And don't feel like it's weird that you don't enjoy the gym atmosphere, where I am, gyms and gym culture is dominated by rich college kids who make it an annoyance for everyone.
 
The gym is horrible. I've joined gyms 2 or 3 times now. They're awful. I hate the atmosphere and the general concept. That's why I've been trying to do literally anything else. I am much more likely to actually do something that can be done at home.
Well, I can't argue with your experience. Over the years mine has been largely positive. I train late mornings, so there is at most a dozen people around, but I know the afternoon crowd are the ones who leave shit everywhere and don't unrack their weights etc etc.
 
I do strength on alternate days, so cardio day in between that. Anyway, I already lift less than most of the guys here that have lifted for years. But I experienced that I got stronger in my lifts after starting cardio.

Is there any orals that doesn't kill your liver, and what are PEDs?
Just like reading and learning about the topic, even if I don't plan to take it in the near future.
D bol (dianabol) is fine for starter or single use, I've had great luck on it esp as I'm an old fart now I will do 2 weeks (i personally don't need a PCT) and I get vascular AF on it oddly.

A lot of people who use slower acting stuff, like Est based will use d bol to speed up stuff, and if you enjoy reading about it, youll see a lot of cycles factor it in.

You do want it in system like pre eat or lift. Since we are talking about gyms, I felt so proud the day I went with my buddy to planet fitness and while people are snacking on the free bagels I popped roids and washed down with a chocolate whey shake (I'm easy to amuse sue me)

PED is slang for any boost, performance enhancing drug, is what it stands for, this covers HGH etc, since gear/roids tends to mean just steroids/test based things.

Any of this stuff, seriously read up and talk to people, because all our bodies are different anyone who's credible might have different results and reviews, so always be careful. Having veins pop and look more defined is not something Dbol is known form that's why I mentioned it. That's just how it interacts with Basso's body There's real science behind the stuff, but people are different, work outs are different etc.
 
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I like lifting full body 3-4 times a week with a day off in between to recuperate. Low impact cardio like incline walking or swimming on the off day helps with active recovery. My biggest mistake in the past was not eating enough protein to capitalize on the effort. I would slap younger Hot Dog for making that mistake and wasting time.
 
Had a 'Come to Jesus' moment last week moving a 100 lb freeze dryer. Getting it from the ground to its cart ~4 feet off the ground took way more than it should have. I hadn't realized quite how weak I had gotten, esp being morbidly obese. God willing I'll be at bodyweight for deadlifts by April, but I'm still too weak/fat to squat with a bar.
 
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Thinking about transitioning from raw powerlifting into geared lifting. I am prepared for unprecedented levels of pain and autism, and maybe an aneurysm or two.
 
Ugh, where has this forum thread been for the past 4 months. Trying to keep enough strength to still punch hard but I am not sure what I still need to do lifting wise. Any advice on lifts I can do with about 2-5 days of days to potentially lift?
 
Ugh, where has this forum thread been for the past 4 months. Trying to keep enough strength to still punch hard but I am not sure what I still need to do lifting wise. Any advice on lifts I can do with about 2-5 days of days to potentially lift?
In general, as I follow a more HIT style of lifting, I actually lift about three days a week with a bro-split that works for me.
My main lifts I try to improve are Dumbbell Bench Press, an Incline Machine Press on a machine I really like, Reverse Grip Pulldowns, Deadlifts, and a Row machine that feels nice. I do isolation moves to pre-exhaust, but that's a different topic. Anyways, that's ches/back day.
For shoulders and arms, I really like Spider Curls, Preacher Curls, Tricep Pushdowns, weighted Dips, and Skullcrushers superset with a close grip press. For delts it's Reverse Flies, Side Laterals, and Overhead Press either with a bar or dumbbells.
For legs, I do Squats, Leg Curls, Leg Extensions, Dumbbell Romanian Deadlifts, and Hack Squats. I go really crazy on legs, though. I do abs on leg day too, mostly a dropset on a weighted crunch.
I tend to keep volume low, only one working set an exercise to failure or sometimes further if I have a partner to assist with forced reps, added resistance, or iso-holds. I warm up very thoroughly though, and my workouts are always less than an hour.
I do more conditioning work throughout the week, but it's much less intense.

Double post, but I feel this is worth it.
Bodybuilding icon Boston Loyd passed this morning, he was a pillar of the sport and one of the most honest men involved in it. He was heavily abusive of PEDs, as he used himself as a lab rat and unfortunately it caught up to him.
His friends all said that he was extremely kind and loyal, and it's a major loss to all that knew him well.
 
Thinking about transitioning from raw powerlifting into geared lifting. I am prepared for unprecedented levels of pain and autism, and maybe an aneurysm or two.
By geared do you mean tren or a smith machine?

Because one of them is an awesome idea and the other is a smith machine.
 
I have to say, after the first couple weeks I actually do not hate the kettlebell as much as the other kinds of exercise I've tried in the past. I'm still very early in the process using light weights and not doing as many liftings as recommended, but unlike other stuff it does NOT make me want to kill myself. I have no explanation for this, but I'm going to try to keep doing it until I'm slightly less of a pathetic, pasty nerd.
 
I have to say, after the first couple weeks I actually do not hate the kettlebell as much as the other kinds of exercise I've tried in the past. I'm still very early in the process using light weights and not doing as many liftings as recommended, but unlike other stuff it does NOT make me want to kill myself. I have no explanation for this, but I'm going to try to keep doing it until I'm slightly less of a pathetic, pasty nerd.
Here’s a really good playlist of kettlebell exercises, Mark Wildman does a great job of explaining things concisely and with logical progressions for every level of trainee.
People kind of knock tools like kettlebells and the like because of things like CrossFit and Joe Rogan, but they have lots of use for all around fitness.
 
By geared do you mean tren or a smith machine?

Because one of them is an awesome idea and the other is a smith machine.
Haha, I mean equipped lifting. Specifically single ply. Multi-ply is ridiculous and tren is practically required for it, which I'm not willing to use.

Raw powerlifting for women has become a lot more competitive in recent years. Even if I worked my ass off to qualify for nationals, I've accepted that I'll never be good enough to seriously compete with the numbers being put up these days. I've never put on a squat suit or bench shirt, but the field of women who do lift equipped is so small that I have a much better shot at a national podium. Even (especially) if it's a podium no one gives a rat's ass about. Equipped is also more technical than raw lifting, which appeals to my spergy side. Basically I just need some absurd goal to work toward in the gym because it's the only way I keep my heavy drinking habit in check.
 
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