Exulansic / TT Exulansic / Sierra Weir / Sierra Dullea Weir - TERF detransitioner/desister who has a crusade against the "I Am Jazz" phenomenon and also a massive collection of Party City wigs.

[LikeRivenIRL]

I agree CAIS males should be able to use female facilities.

I mean...then you are in fundamental disagreement with Exulansic. This is the point of this current thread within a thread.

 

[stcstnr]

you morons need to stop trying to rewrite the thread like it isn’t all there on the preceding pages for anyone to read. the insistence here has been CAIS males should be termed female and it’s really mean TT says otherwise, interspersed with a lot of autistic inability to interpret her (admittedly very flatly delivered) sense of humour and musings about how ugly and unhinged she is. it has not been solely restricted to the subject of whether or not CAIS males, in material practice, should be in female spaces. I know you guys think you’re really clever when you pretend you haven’t also been slinging insults and getting distracted by minutiae , making baseless speculation and doing armchair academia about DSDs - including deciding that males should be scientifically categorised as females - getting emotionally involved over ideological conflicts and generally sperging out all over the place over hypotheticals but like… I’ve been here since page one bro. you can’t grift me.

and don’t think it’s gone unnoticed that it’s serious discourse when you guys want it to be, and tard mocking only when you say so. constantly changing the conditions of the discussion because you don’t like a couple of people disagreeing consistently no matter how much you try and guilt trip about imaginary teenagers isn’t some kind of gotcha.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

Oh good things picked up again just in time. Have we decided on whether Ex is a cow yet and can we laugh at how the hysterical radfems are going after Boyce, or are we going to keep throwing hypotheticals and statistics like shades for a few pages more to keep things extra spicy. I'm hooked anyway.

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

[QUOTE="stcstnr, post: 11209968, member: 94911" Reeeeeeeeeeee!
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Keep going. I have popcorn.

Edit. I can’t work out multi quotes on phone. What a fag. Also can’t fix it. Double fag.

 

[FarmVille]

including deciding that males should be scientifically categorised as females

LOL no one has said that. Particularly because "scientifically" categorizing is not a thing.

You should learn how to comment without the constant insertion of exageration and make-believe.

 

[Gar For Archer]

the insistence here has been CAIS males should be termed female and it’s really mean TT says otherwise

If you can quote anyone here insisting that CAIS individuals are biologically female, then I'll gladly join you in calling them a retard. As far as I can tell, nobody is in disagreement that CAIS individuals are, in fact, biologically male. They have XY chromosomes, this fact is indisputable. However, in this vanishingly small edge case involving individuals who by definition do not fall under the typical binary understanding of sex and gender (which I think we agree applies to the 99% of people of typical sexual phenotype), the sole fact that they have XY chromosomes does not make them a man.

All I've been arguing is that CAIS individuals are, for all intents and purposes, women, and have always been women since birth, and should not be forced to use men's restrooms because some loony radfem doesn't like their chromosomes. An entire discussion that only came up because Sierra herself devised a ridiculous scenario to justify why CAIS individuals should not be allowed in women's bathrooms, a belief that you yourself admit to believing isn't based on scientific fact, but rather on her own mental issues and past trauma when you describe her as

an actual human who is obviously neuroatypical, taking refuge in hyperfixation to cope with a deluge of backlash, clearly has a great deal of trauma around males that is manifesting in strange ways and who refuses to be agreeable, because she’s a fucking neuroatypical sperg who can’t process what’s happening to her right now.

You realize what you've done, right? You just gave the best-worded argument in this thread for precisely why Exulansic is a lolcow.

 

[Futaba]

Exulansic believes this whole CAIS issue was actually astroturfed if you listen to her interview on the gender mapping podcast which was posted a few pages back. She didnt know much about the issue until someone asked about it during a livestream so she did some googling and came to her conclusions. Then she subsequently made a lot of videos around the subject.

There is a tendency among GC figures to anoint themselves as the sole saviors of womens rights and that they have all the answers - I think Graham Lineham is also a cow because of this. In reality the GC movement is for everyone and what is needed in the Youtube space is for well reasoned/non histrionic people to share their experiences and report on what is going on right now. Because the troon propaganda is well oiled. Thats what I would like anyway and its disheartening to see so many fall victim to the "they are out to get me" mindset when they have sperged too hard outside of the realm of their own experience.

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

Graham Linehan has his own thread.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

can we laugh at how the hysterical radfems are going after Boyce,

He needs to start getting worried about having his own channel terminated if they're mass reporting him. I hope for his sake he hasn't been doxed because some ladies are completely losing it.

On another note, even the ladies at Ovarit think Ex's whole CAIS and rayscism sperging is pretty useless. Link.

One of them wrote an article about the whole situation from a GC perspective and basically called Exulansic paranoid, while still slightly entertaining that Benjamin Boyce could be an evil genius who destroys youtube careers. But it's still a pretty fair and levelheaded take on the whole thing. Link.

Spoiler: The article

Exulansic And The CAIS Of The Phantom Censor​

Recently, the Gender Critical community was rocked by the sudden removal of a prominent voice from a prominent platform.

“I do plan to keep making this content, because it’s more important now than ever to keep speaking out.”

The Case Against The Case Against CAIS

Exulansic made her well-considered views known regarding whether individuals born with the anomaly of sexual development known as Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome should be counted as women. There was some passionate disagreement, but she stood her ground and even won over a few people.

Debate sputtered when a newcomer to the fray stepped in and dragged it to a grinding halt – Someone who had to make sure everyone knew the Intersex Truth.

His response video makes up fifty percent of the content on Intersex Truther’s brand-new channel. Blowing through the studies Exulansic cited with, “Gish gallop!” guarantees him a spot in the Mansplaining Hall of Fame. Still insecure in his infamy, he also commissioned a rap song calling her a bigot. And an unflattering caricature. Just normal Alpha Male stuff, you know.

Exulansic responded promptly with an analysis of the caricature, tracing echoes of classic anti-Semitic propaganda. YouTube shut her down a few hours later, and I don’t think that’s a coincidence.

Personal Bias And Image Management

Don’t worry, I’m not going to offer my personal opinion on the intersex debacle. I believe it’s a distraction that’s taken time and airspace away from our real fight. It adds nothing to the immediate debate surrounding women’s rights, and has the Gender Critical community taking sides over something irrelevant to most of us. It has served as cover for the sabotage of our movement, and I am not going to add fuel to the pyre in the form of my two cents.

I won’t be naming the highest-profile person involved, either. Whether you agree he has the kind of clout to take down entire channels, this person has absolutely zero flotsam online. None. I’ve been researching all kinds of people for these posts for years, and everyone over 30 with any clout has some random articles from ten years ago. A couple awkward photographs. At least one snarky, dissenting op-ed.

Not this guy – I searched through eleven pages of Google results. Make of this what you will, but I’ll be referring to him as Benedict Arnold in the hopes of avoiding digital oblivion.

But the basis for Exulansic’s video – The one that triggered Intersex Truther and sparked the whole chain of events – was a Benedict Arnold interview featuring an intersex individual.

He threw some strong words at anyone stepping up to support Exulansic, and she has said she felt threatened with cancelation. But he’s also been known to sling slurs, then laugh off anyone reacting seriously. Karen Davis over at You’re Kidding, Right? has provided receipts for his free-wheeling language. However interesting his interview choices, I don’t think Old Benny is a friend to women’s liberation.

But I don’t think he’s responsible for the demise of Ex’s channel. For one thing, he’s interviewed her more than once and they seemed to get along. Karen Davis is a big proponent of this idea but, if Benedict could do such a thing, seems to me she would have been first in line during the Great Whore Debacle of Summer 2021. Mr. Arnold seems to roll on from our criticism just fine.

Rise Of The Machines

YouTube, on the other hand, will censor certain words without notifying anyone not to use them. One of my first videos – A takedown of medical professionals attempting to discuss the affect of COVID vaccines on menstrual cycles without saying the word ‘woman’ – was itself taken down. The V-word keyword has become common knowledge, but how many words do you suppose we don’t know about?

The increased prominence of extreme right-wing groups has reminded us that anti-Semitism never really died, and I suspect YouTube (among others) has set up bots to squelch any mention of it outside official sources.

Ex is a rabble rouser, her channel ruffled many delicate feathers. Before her Patreon was also taken down, she told her patrons YouTube removed her for ‘inciting violence.’ I must have missed that bit listening to her caricature video while making dinner that night. But the invocation of anti-Jewish hatred – and actual Nazi propaganda – may have just been the massive final straw.

The case for a political hit job is compelling – Karen and Ex discussed it explicitly. Karen has stated many times she believes Benedict Arnold is responsible for the whole mess, and Exulansic supplied incriminating details. Cluniac makes his own argument for sabotage, pointing the finger at Intersex Truther. Both assume an organized team of trolls behind the scenes, and it’s not hard to imagine in our age of the Twitter Mob.

But it’s too easy to explain too much using only YouTube’s mindless self-interest. Association with Nazis is bad for market share, and my embarrassing depth of experience tells me this topic is essentially absent from the platform.

That Feeling Of Being Watched

But can so many intelligent women be seeing a phantom? Why does Exulansic’s cancelation feel so targeted?

The online world can be a tricky thing; Digital engineers have spent the past decade completely remaking the back end, meanwhile the interface remains largely unchanged. Your old friends look the same, but they’ve all defected to the other side. It sounded paranoid 20 years ago, but everything we do is tracked and logged in some massive mainframe… for some reason. Uses for this level of information and technology are limited only by the imagination.

More mundanely, the Trans Femme are extremely over-represented in tech. Even I have a former in-law who fits this trope perfectly. It’s not hard to believe they would rig their own platforms in their favor, just like they try to tilt everything else.

I’m not a programmer, but I know enough about computers to know I don’t know that much. Most of us don’t really know how all this shiny shit works, but we shouldn’t have to – Modern society encourages individuals to specialize, reaching new depths in a narrow field of focus. A high population ensures a cornucopia of topics in development. I don’t know how to fly an airplane, either, and I shouldn’t be expected to.

I may not be a pilot, but I can recognize a dangerous trajectory. Ignorance of flight protocol doesn’t mean I can’t see a crash coming.

Haters Gonna Hate

Just a few years ago, with #MeToo in full swing, even the passing thought that women were being targeted and censored for stating banal facts would have felt absurd. Now, we have Slightly Twisted Female and others pleading for the community not to fracture further, as we frantically hunt down the source of our anxiety.

Supporting Exulansic and anyone like her is important enough to venture into new platforms, but I worry about stretching ourselves too thin. I can hardly keep track of things as it is, and I don’t even have an Instagram!

Seems to me that any organization of any decent size is bound to have a mole. I’m not ruling out Benedict Arnold and his freaky-clean vibe, but I’m content to leave him to his trolling. Focusing on supporting those whose work I do admire and appreciate will help build momentum towards the liberation of women from the rule of men, and anyone who joins me is welcome.

Presenting a united front on this point is absolutely vital, because there does appear to be a guided effort to fracture and discredit Gender Criticism through stoking in-fighting and paranoia. Just like so many radical and leftist groups before us. But women know who we are.

And we know that just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you. But if they’re coming for us, let them find us hard at work.

 

[Xenu Warrior Princess]

I wish to share some cringe with you.
From a big fan of Sierra and Karen, but apparently no access to image software or a tablet.

I don't blame Sierra and Karen for these. I only blame the "artist" and anyone that likes the images. Which from what I can tell on twitter and gettr...is a small group.

And don't try and steal the images everyone, she watermarked them so no one else can take credit.

The artist, Rosein_Wanderland/RoseNwanderland

Spoiler: archives

sierra cringe https://archive.ph/mArS1
sierra cringe 2 https://archive.ph/Aceqn
vokey cringe https://archive.ph/l7txW
karen cringe https://archive.ph/7lX7v
karen cringe 2 https://archive.ph/oMueW
boyce cringe https://archive.ph/imgT3
boyce cringe 2 https://archive.ph/6fMaC
tri cringe 1 https://archive.ph/ND7eR
tri cringe 2 https://archive.ph/ahWpL

 

[FarmVille]

TT is now working in her advanced neurology googling certificate and arguing about .. Terri shiavo

Anyway hope you retarded little bitches shut up about imaginary teenagers for a sec and consider something more relevant like newborn headless penis having babies

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

Anyway hope you retarded little bitches shut up about imaginary teenagers for a sec and consider something more relevant like newborn headless penis having babies

She’s definitely going to end up with her own thread at this rate.

She’s out of her depth with this analysing of medical stuff through the GC lens and it’s making her look a fool. I mean the farms is always thirsty for milk but she started off so well. Kinda sad.

 

[T0oCoolFool]

Insane Radfems: Troons can never understand womanhood! Even if they pass! It's not just about biology, it's about being raised and perceived as female since birth!

Also Insane Radfems: I don't care if someone with CAIS was born as a girl, developed a body as a girl, has a functioning vagina, was perceived as a girl, socialized as a girl, and everyone believes she is a girl.... she has testies in her body, therefore she's a MAN and needs to use male spaces!

This is how Exulansic and her cult sound. It's so stupid to focus on too. All she had to say was that being intersex is not the same as being transgender, and most intersex people still look like their actual sex. But noooo. Exulansic can't stand people disagreeing with her, so she's going to sperg out and alienate normies and fence sitters rather than just agree to disagree.

That's what pains me the most about this. Exulansic was great at getting normies to listen to her. Radfems/terfs/and the average kiwifarmer already agrees with her about troons, so it's not like her sperging out about CAIS is going to make us change our minds about troons. But the normies and the fence sitters, the people who have no idea about this shit, THAT'S who we need more support from. Exulansic was reaching this demographic and she did a good job. Now she's quickly evolving into full on lolcow status and alienating her base. Sigh

And for anyone that thinks she's right and that we're just hating on her, you do realize one of the first stories that pops up when you Google CAIS is this:

Person had no idea she was intersex until reading about term aged 27

Alicia Roth Weigel, 30, from Austin, Texas, spent most of her life hiding the fact that she had been born with a vagina and testes - but no uterus or ovaries.

www.dailymail.co.uk

No one would read that story and say this woman is male. NO ONE would look at this woman and say she's a man and should be in male space. Fucking hell, even the comments on the DailyMail agree that CAIS is different from troons and that she is a woman.

My point in bringing this up is that this is not a "Anti Exulansic" issue, it's a bad optics issue. If your goal is to get more support against the troon menace, then this is a dumb ass hill to die on. Any normies that like Exulansic will quickly tune her out when they research CAIS and find this as an example of what Exulansic considers male.

 

[FarmVille]

It's a cult

Edit because it just goes on....

 

[Marvin]

It's a cult

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Lol horseshoe theory: both Exulansic fans and troons agree, some females have penises.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

It's a cult

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Lol at Vanessa Vokey claiming others are 'not seeing the big picture'. Are you sure you're not projecting, hun?

If they're so hellbent on talking about obscure disorders, why couldn't they just focus on AGP instead?

 

[KracqueDaddy]

TT is now working in her advanced neurology googling certificate and arguing about .. Terri shiavo


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"CAIS can be inherited from the father" Does she understand what a sex linked recessive disorder is? Oh wait nevermind, she once claimed that this can be caused by "cosmic rays."

Also, neurological differences between CAIS and XX women may exist, they may not. Sex is not entirely up to your hormones, and many tissues such as the brain and heart muscles will develop differently based on your chromosomal sex instead of hormone exposure. That's because the Y does not just exist to deliver penis and testosterone, but also regulates other X-linked and autosomal genes for things like skeletal differences, height, etc. It has been noted in some places that regardless of hormone exposure your sexual karyotype will determine things like the severity and onset speed of brain tumors. Congratulations to exulansic but not everything is testosterone so take your simplistic lay person's understanding of the human body and put it back on the shelf.

Edit: There's something seriously unhinged about the other woman in these screenshots saying we should test for CAIS prenatally and try to find a way to undo it to make them into normal boys. CAIS is not adversely affecting their health, why take interventions? Why waste resources like that? No one is going to test for CAIS prenatally because there are no predispositions to having a baby with CAIS. A mother carrier of the AR mutation will have no symptoms and the father will not have a mutation. They do not know they can have an AIS baby until they do. Nothing occurs in pregnancy that will make a doctor want to test a mother for an AIS fetus, so what, is our plan to now test all pregnant mothers for it so we don't accidentally have Cursed Babies that upset fringe radfems?

They are spending so much time moralizing a genetic condition that has existed since the dawn of humanity and the XY female phenotype that is our species' very planned developmental default safety net. "Broken men" etc etc etc. If you genuinely were talking about this without seething emotional weight, the word would be "AFAB males with a primary sex disorder."

 

[Chet]

TT is now working in her advanced neurology googling certificate and arguing about .. Terri shiavo
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A linguist spent two weeks googling and thinks she's got a better understanding of genetics, development and evodevo than an actual biologist. This is beyond embarrassing.
If someone could explain what her reasoning is for thinking CAIS, an X-linked recessive disorder, can be inherited from the father, I'd like to hear it because I could not make sense of it despite watching the videos (but then again, I'm not of superior intelligence like her).

 

[LikeRivenIRL]

A linguist spent two weeks googling and thinks she's got a better understanding of genetics, development and evodevo than an actual biologist. This is beyond embarrassing.
If someone could explain what her reasoning is for thinking CAIS, an X-linked recessive disorder, can be inherited from the father, I'd like to hear it because I could not make sense of it despite watching the videos (but then again, I'm not of superior intelligence like her).

I'm also having doubts about her linguistic abilities. Her story is whack. Apparently, she is bilingual Spanish/English, fluent/excellent Japanese (lived in Japan for some time? Called herself a Japanophile during a live stream). Fluent Turkish (never said more than a few words on-stream, seems to be she spent some time during college in Turkey but honestly if it's just a year, that's not enough time to claim the fluency she claims). She also claimed some fluency in French, saw 0 evidence of it, and professed general language skills but I distinctly remember her butchering Dutch names on one of the studies she was reading. Also knows a few words from the Native American tribe from which she claims ancestry.
Jesus, is she a cow yet?

Also, she said on stream "I am an excellent artist" multiple times...she's just not. Her Pokémon paintings were garbage.

ALSO, she says she has a good job and house but she seems to live in squalor with her cats (fucking cracks on the wall falling apart on some of her livestreams), but maybe she's just dirty cos cats.

 

[FarmVille]

Lol at Vanessa Vokey claiming others are 'not seeing the big picture'. Are you sure you're not projecting, hun?

If they're so hellbent on talking about obscure disorders, why couldn't they just focus on AGP instead?

TT is still posting videos but none of them are the jazz/phallo content that people responded to—all sperging obsessively about intersex disorders. Takedowns of a WordPress site that looks like it's from 2002 .

Nothing about troons.

Edit: There's something seriously unhinged about the other woman in these screenshots saying we should test for CAIS prenatally and try to find a i way to undo it to make them into normal boys.

I would love to know how XXRADFEM she would respond to getting a bill for prenatal CAIS testing. A few hundred/thousand bucks is a small price to pay for chromosomal bathroom purity.