Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Captain Manning]

I'm sure you had a real heart to heart discussion about Ralph's child and alcohol abuse like a true Christian friend might. Too bad you forgot to denounce everything he stands for. Well you didn't forget, because you stand for the same grift he does, Jon of the Gunt. As long as people let you push your dime store comics, you don't care what they do.

This. He's a really amoral person, Jon. No joke. I can point you to the grisly details if you're unaware.

A year or so ago, on Trash Compactor, after Preston filed the lawsuit, you made a big deal of yelling at Preston he needs to accept Christ.

Moral consistency would be nice. Otherwise it feeds into the idea that you only trot out your "Christian identity" when it serves your needs, or makes you look like a victim. It's virtue signaling and not sincere. It's exactly what you bitch about constantly when SJWs do it.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

That's admirable, but I think what I and others are trying to tell you is that you should have passed. Not all publicity is good publicity. Ralph is circling the drain so fast these days that there's a perception that the only people he'll be able to get on his show are literally whos and the other detritus of the Internet.

Not to Powerlevel:

I was given a similar choice.

I Chose not to

 

[Captain Manning]

Even though I think tonight's Killstream will be cringe, at least @TheCosmicWarrior will go into it with the best of moods.

Actually, everybody can and should at least smile at this. Litigious faggot even caused headaches for Null.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

Since Jon latched onto a persons death to shill his comic, even if that person was Testefy, I'm sure anything Ethan Ralph has done would be no biggie. In his own words, as long as Ethan is nice to him.

 

[Captain Manning]

Since Jon latched onto a persons death to shill his comic, even if that person was Testefy, I'm sure anything Ethan Ralph has done would be no biggie.

Him doing that really didn't bug me. If he used Testefy's death to shill his comic, nobody should care, because... I mean... it's fucking Testefy. Testefy's surviving friends and allies don't care. I am not even sure Testefy himself would care. In fact, Testefy would probably like everybody in this thread to line up and piss on his grave right now, because that's just more attention.

What bugged me was the constant making excuses for Testefy's shitty behavior. Barely any awareness was shown that such behavior was genuinely shitty. He wants to rehabilitate Testefy in death in ways that Testefy was unwilling to rehabilitate himself in LIFE.

Somebody: "What about that time Testefy eat that baby?"
Jon: "Oh, but he apologized!!!"



Like okay Jon, I know you liked him, but try to show some empathy for how Testefy touched other people's lives. Oftentimes negatively. It's not some SJW exclusive thing to point out how somebody is a deeply flawed person.

@FROG actually gave the most honest eulogy of all. Paraphrasing: Testefy was hated by many, and will be missed by a few. Short and truthful.

In his own words, as long as Ethan is nice to him.

Exactly.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Him doing that really didn't bug me. If he used Testefy's death to shill his comic, nobody should care, because... I mean... it's fucking Testefy. Testefy's surviving friends and allies don't care. I am not even sure Testefy himself would care. In fact, Testefy would probably like everybody in this thread to line up and piss on his grave right now, because that's just more attention.

What bugged me was the constant making excuses for Testefy's shitty behavior. Barely any awareness was shown that such behavior was genuinely shitty. He wants to rehabilitate Testefy in death in ways that Testefy was unwilling to rehabilitate himself in LIFE.

Somebody: "What about that time Testefy eat that baby?"
Jon: "Oh, but he apologized!!!"



Like okay Jon, I know you liked him, but try to show some empathy for how Testefy touched other people's lives. Oftentimes negatively. It's not some SJW exclusive thing to point out how somebody is a deeply flawed person.

@FROG actually gave the most honest eulogy of all. Paraphrasing: Testefy was hated by many, and will be missed by a few. Short and truthful.


Exactly.

It speaks to a certain level of desperation that Testefy's death might be an opportunity to sell anything. Also a total lack of pride, conscious or general decency. But hey, ComicsGate!

 

[Strix454]

There are puppies yapping in the background on Liam's video this morning. He seems to have bred another litter of puppies.
Liam's puppy mill seems to be back in operation after taking a year off for his wife's pregnancy. Liam's ability to find happy
homes for every puppy he breeds is as amazing as his ability to cure parvo.

I mean if he killed all these surplus puppies, he would have to be a real monster. I also suspect now the reason Liam built his
tree fort was to keep his dog breeding operation out of the mobile home and away from wife & baby.

 

[Strix454]

One more Liam thing. Yesterday FROG produced an email which was sent by someone claiming to be Liam's wife.

The email contained this:

Uptil now only women had come to our home but yesterday one of your followers came that was a man and got into a big fight with him and put him in the hospital. It was very scary and my daughters were present.

People who saw it were wondering what it could possibly be referring to since Liam wasn';t bragging in his streams about being in fights.
But then I looked back at his Twitter:

From the 19th:

https://twitter.com/RetroBoy1983/status/1495219375401406464?cxt=HHwWgMCowbKGi8ApAAAA

So Liam did make a claim a few days ago that he put someone in the hospital for "threatening" his family.

The email FROG showed seemed like a troll. But combined with the tweet, its worth wondering if Liam is trying to troll FROG.

 

[FluffyJackal]

@TheCosmicWarrior Are you going to suckle @theralph's gunt?
I don't see the point of you going onto a stream that usually has 300 viewers.

300 viewers are about a dozen times more than what Jon can get on his own

And I know this is out of nowhere and it's not really germane to the thread, but I was very late in realizing that Kwanza and Mark Waid's H1 (HUMANITY FIRST!) imprint tanked. Of course, I can't imagine anyone was surprised about that but I'm sort of stunned there were no victory laps, especially from Zack. He used to hate review those comics often and I figured if anyone had a reason to take the opportunity to piss on H1's grave it would be Richard of all people. But nope, nothing. There's not even a sad corporate press release from Waid, no YouTube videos, nothing on the internet to indicate that H1 died except for their Wikipedia entry stating they became defunct in February 2021. I just thought that was kind of weird.

It's entirely possible that YBZ avoids mentioning Waid or anyhting having to do with the guy to avoid risking a breach in any settlement he and Waid might have reached

 

[Captain Manning]

So Liam did make a claim a few days ago that he put someone in the hospital for "threatening" his family.

I believe he did this exactly 0%.

Try reverse image searching that ambulance picture. It might prove funny. Liam has used stock images to make claims before.

It's entirely possible that YBZ avoids mentioning Waid or anyhting having to do with the guy to avoid risking a breach in any settlement he and Waid might have reached

I think so too.

I think the settlement is basically that they are both required to STFU about each other, and each side bared their own costs.

The whole thing was basically a gigantic waste of time. On balance, Waid won more, because he did get YBZ's deal with AP nixed, while YBZ never got an admission or apology for that.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

300 viewers are about a dozen times more than what Jon can get on his own

You're right, they were probably there for Elasi Affairs. Definitely sub to his channel.

 

[9th legion centurion 002]

You're right, they were probably there for Elasi Affairs.

You and Elasi Affairs jerk off to Liam Gray videos, you're both talentless fucking hacks.

 

[Miniluv]

It's entirely possible that YBZ avoids mentioning Waid or anyhting having to do with the guy to avoid risking a breach in any settlement he and Waid might have reached

I think so too.

I think the settlement is basically that they are both required to STFU about each other, and each side bared their own costs.

The whole thing was basically a gigantic waste of time. On balance, Waid won more, because he did get YBZ's deal with AP nixed, while YBZ never got an admission or apology for that.

Maybe, but nothing is stopping him from shitting on Kwanza or Mags and laughing at their (and, by extension, Waid's) failure. I just found it kind of strange that there's next to nothing about the demise of H1 anywhere, not even a passing mention of it here on the Farms where Mags, Kwanza and Waid all have threads. I looked over on Twitter and the only mentions of H1 are a handful of year old tweets guessing that they died and one guy asking Perch if he'd make a "What happened to Humanoids' H1?" video, which didn't get a reply.

I just figured somebody would have had a bit of a point-and-laugh at three comic industry lolcows all spectacularly failing together. If nothing else, maybe Humanoids will stick to bringing us translated European stuff and stay the fuck away from Amercan lefty capeshit.

 

[Captain Manning]

Maybe, but nothing is stopping him from shitting on Kwanza or Mags and laughing at their (and, by extension, Waid's) failure.

Yes, but again, the issue is that he probably doesn't want to traipse that close to what could be perceived as a "Waid issue." Waid was the "Director of Creative Development." Whatever the fuck that is. It sounds like a corporate officer of sorts. So the failure of anybody else at H1 led to Waid's in a way.

Yeah, I know Zack is "simple," but his lawyer might have drilled that pretty deep into his head. Marine drill sergeants manage that with even the dumbest of recruits.

 

[Strix454]

I just figured somebody would have had a bit of a point-and-laugh at three comic industry lolcows all spectacularly failing together. If nothing else, maybe Humanoids will stick to bringing us translated European stuff and stay the fuck away from Amercan lefty capeshit.

This is some more information on Humanoids and what happened.


Humanoids had a semi-legitimate reasons for creating H1. The owner wants to monetize his back catalog in deals with Hollywood entities. They relocated their corporate HQ to
LA to do that. But their name recognition in the US is less than zero. What they wanted to do with Humanoids H1 was do something with a bit of prestige that would get them alot
of publicity. They hired John Cassady as art director which was a good choice. But then somehow they got hooked up with three nobodies (Kwanza Osajyefo, Carla Speed McNeil,
and Cheryl Lynn Eaton) who lacked the skills or experience to do anything. They created the basic ideas and characters of the H1 "universe". But they were so
useless that after about a year Cassady reached out to Waid to act as a publisher.

The decision to bring in Waid quickly led to Carla Speed McNeil and Cheryl Lynn Eaton quitting. But even though most of the team had quit, Humanoids for some reason
decided to still use nearly all of the ideas and books they had come up with. So Waid brought in Devin Grayson and (maybe) Mags to do books for the line. Kwanza's writing
was so bad that they were eventually forced intro reducing him to a co-writer with Waid.

My personal theory is that Waid came into this disaster as the ultimate "whtie knight" gesture. He was going to take these awful ideas by these awful people and somehow make
them work no matter what it took. Two of them immediately quit and Kwanza couldn't really write comics. But that didn't stop Mark Waid. So he pushed forward with Ignited,
Omni and whatever the Mags book was.

But it was all dead on arrival. The basic premises of all the Humanoids H1 universe comics were awful and nothing could make them any better. COVID allowed for a merciful
quiet death for the whole thing.where nobody had to admit defeat or failure.

Fabrice Giger's new strategy is to do films/TV based on the Humanoids back catalog with Humanoids itself producing them. I think the first one will be "the incal".
The hope is that something will hit it big and they will be able to get attention in Hollywood that way. Its not a perfect strategy, but its a better strategy than trying
to get publicity in the United States by publishing American comics. The relative recent "success" of European scifi films by Denis Villeneuve is also helping them
in a general way.

But Fabrice Giger's big idea for the past 15 years has been to sell Humanoids to some Hollywood company for a massive amount of money and
then spend the rest of his life partying in LA. Humanoids is really too European for that to easily happen.

 

[Miniluv]

Yes, but again, the issue is that he probably doesn't want to traipse that close to what could be perceived as a "Waid issue." Waid was the "Director of Creative Development." Whatever the fuck that is. It sounds like a corporate officer of sorts. So the failure of anybody else at H1 led to Waid's in a way.

Yeah, I know Zack is "simple," but his lawyer might have drilled that pretty deep into his head. Marine drill sergeants manage that with even the dumbest of recruits.

I'm assuming that regarding each other as "he who must not be named" was part of the confidential agreement they reached, but I wonder if that's something that only pertains to what could be considered defamatory statements. I can't see Zack reviewing a book Waid wrote as being something worth dragging him into court over if he doesn't say anything stupid about Waid, even if he doesn't like the hypothetical book.
"Keep my name out ya mouth" seems like it would be weird to legally enforce if there's no element of defamation involved. But IANAL.

But it was all dead on arrival. The basic premises of all the Humanoids H1 universe comics were awful and nothing could make them any better.

I always thought it was strange that a comic book imprint with a slogan like "HUMANITY FIRST" would rest on a premise of Earth giving out super powers because it was literally sick of humans.

Fabrice Giger's new strategy is to do films/TV based on the Humanoids back catalog with Humanoids itself producing them. I think the first one will be "the incal".

Didn't they already make The Fifth Element?

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

You and Elasi Affairs jerk off to Liam Gray videos, you're both talentless fucking hacks.

And I had 95 people live, which is 85 more than you'll ever have for your "I'm an incel and proud" weirdo rant streams.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

If he used Testefy's death to shill his comic, nobody should care, because... I mean... it's fucking Testefy.

Understood, though as ever, Testefy is unimportant. It's the fact it's someone who Jon likes, that Jon apparently, honestly doesn't get the negativity towards him, but it's still someone whose corpse Jon is willing to use as a billboard.

Fabrice Giger's new strategy is to do films/TV based on the Humanoids back catalog with Humanoids itself producing them.

I immediately imagine something on the level of a Dhar Mann video.

I always thought it was strange that a comic book imprint with a slogan like "HUMANITY FIRST" would rest on a premise of Earth giving out super powers because it was literally sick of humans.

The self-loathing is strong in environmentalists, even if they're only keyboard warriors who look at sub-saharans chopping up elephants and rhinos for the chinese dolla and throw "humanity sucks" out on twitter. If the earth grew camps full of ovens out of its crust, these people would dream of being 'the good ones', herding everyone else onto the trains.

Or the earth is only trying to rid itself of colonial whiteys, I don't know.

And I had 95 people live

 

[A nameless trool]

Maybe, but nothing is stopping him from shitting on Kwanza or Mags and laughing at their (and, by extension, Waid's) failure. I just found it kind of strange that there's next to nothing about the demise of H1 anywhere, not even a passing mention of it here on the Farms where Mags, Kwanza and Waid all have threads. I looked over on Twitter and the only mentions of H1 are a handful of year old tweets guessing that they died and one guy asking Perch if he'd make a "What happened to Humanoids' H1?" video, which didn't get a reply.

I just figured somebody would have had a bit of a point-and-laugh at three comic industry lolcows all spectacularly failing together. If nothing else, maybe Humanoids will stick to bringing us translated European stuff and stay the fuck away from Amercan lefty capeshit.

Do we know if H1 falling through means that Waid will not get his hands on Incal? Because that was the true outrage.

 

[GranDuke]

Things will get even funnier if European comics succeed in similar way, and American comics will become the number three not only worldwide, but domestically too. Right now European books are in similar situation manga was in early 2000s. French appear to be more serious about expanding their market than Japanese, so I think it's likely to happen in about a decade or two. There are already some entertaining cases, like "Cimmerian." It's Ablaze's translation of European Conan comics, and it sells about the same as or better than Marvel's "Conan" books. That's in spite of Ablaze being handicapped by inability to put "Conan" on the cover and next to no marketing efforts.

Where are you getting those Cimmerian sales? I haven't really noticed European stuff sales being reported much.

Do we know if H1 falling through means that Waid will not get his hands on Incal? Because that was the true outrage.

I remember there were weird rumours about "fans" throwing up money to buy DC from WB after Didio was fired and I figure that fans instead should throw up money and buy Incal/Metabarons to prevent anyone from writing new stories in that setting.