Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
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Are you familiar with the existence of poland and romania?
Yes, very.

They also wouldn't want to sacrifice their entire Armed Forces to rescue Ukraine. You seem to think that Poland or Romania looks at the Western countries, sees the niggers twerking in the distance, and loves you for you. They don't. They see you as a cash-cow and hate your culture.

Tanks don't matter as much as Air superiority. CAS Jets, Helicopters, and Drones (oh, my!) are a tank's natural enemy. As long as Ukraine can keep their boys flying they should be able to whittle down the tanks. Tanks are cool but they really need a lot of help on the ground and in the air to survive.
Here's your problem:

Russia has known this for a long time. I would be on alert for nigger-style ops, where they pull a Congo and just walk right into your domestic bases - having driven personal cars and smuggled in small-arms to storm your military bases by hand and hold the command centers.

They have called your bluff - they know full-well how shit your weapons actually are, since they shot down so many friendlies over Iraq during that war. They know full-well that the USA's population is so against retaliation that they could probably just ignore any attempt from the USA to intervene.
 
Fair, MBT is a better term.

And yes, they cost about six figures, weigh 15kg each and there is a few dozen people who can actually carry and fire such weapons presently in Europe. Then you'd be burying your Jav soldiers. Even if perfectly executed, in a foreign country, with immortal supersoldiers who cannot die - they could still only destroy a sheer maximum of two tanks.



Yeah, magic. Air superiority - in Ukraine - where the entire region is now a no-fly zone.

What exactly do you have in mind here, sacrifice everything up to the channel because you couldn't physically stop Russia from just... driving tanks into whichever air field you use?

Or place the EU/UK's aircraft carriers, all three of them, in the Black Sea until they run out of ammo?
No, MBT is not "a better term" it is the correct term. That is what literally every single military professional has used since the 70s.

You have no real grasp on Russian or NATO military capabilities. Poland, Romania, France, and the UK are absolutely filled to the brim with doctrine specific high-mobility ATGMs, including TOW-2Bs, Hellfires, and Spikes, all of which would handily eat Russian tanks for breakfast. The Russians, at current strength, would have extreme difficulty invading NATO, and would likely be stopped at the Vistula, according to NATO defense planning. You also seem to forget that NATO air power literally dwarfs Russia's by orders of magnitude, and the quality of the jets is also far superior. What is Russia going to do against F-35s slick loaded with HARMs? Absolutely nothing besides get their IADS fistfucked. After the IADS is dead, NATO begins aggressively dismantling Russia's C4ISTAR. within 4 weeks the Russians are incapable of organizing above the battalion level. Did you know that Iraq had the fourth largest tank force and third largest IADS in the world in 1991? Not monkey model shit either, high quality equipment purchased by Russia, with operators trained by Russians. Within 3 days the United States had dismantled Iraq's C4ISTAR so completely that divisions at the front were unable to communicate with the government in Baghdad.
 
Funny thing is, if you tried to put the WW2 art on a modern plane, the freakjob tranny you "work" with would scream bloody murder about male privilege and a hostile working environment, forcing your CO to force you to remove it.

With the artwork on the Japanese aircraft. You'd have to be a monster to shoot them down.

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When Nostrodamus said 2012 was gonna be the apocalyptic shitfest, he was off by 8 years. Now we have an entire decade of bullshit about to go on, and I suggest praying really fucking hard to whatever god you believe in that the war stays cold.

All the pent up energy of people for over a decade wanting happenings will finally get what they want every year. Praise the Frog God.

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No, MBT is not "a better term" it is the correct term. That is what literally every single military professional has used since the 70s.

You have no real grasp on Russian or NATO military capabilities. Poland, Romania, France, and the UK are absolutely filled to the brim with doctrine specific high-mobility ATGMs, including TOW-2Bs, Hellfires, and Spikes, all of which would handily eat Russian tanks for breakfast. The Russians, at current strength, would have extreme difficulty invading NATO, and would likely be stopped at the Vistula, according to NATO defense planning. You also seem to forget that NATO air power literally dwarfs Russia's by orders of magnitude, and the quality of the jets is also far superior. What is Russia going to do against F-35s slick loaded with HARMs? Absolutely nothing besides get their IADS fistfucked. After the IADS is dead, NATO begins aggressively dismantling Russia's C4ISTAR. within 4 weeks the Russians are incapable of organizing above the battalion level. Did you know that Iraq had the fourth largest tank force and third largest IADS in the world in 1991? Not monkey model shit either, high quality equipment purchased by Russia, with operators trained by Russians. Within 3 days the United States had dismantled Iraq's C4ISTAR so completely that divisions at the front were unable to communicate with the government in Baghdad.
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Not reading all of that. Address the actual point here since you seem to be some kind of faggot.

It's all well and good that you have this equipment completely scattered around the planet. Russia presently has an absolutely enormous physical force in the required area that it needs to be. Dislodging that would be the single largest exercise in Europe since the 40s.

Who, exactly, is in a position to handle that?

I see right through your lying bullshit, everyone knows that in a war economy, Western countries could supplement these forces - we could build more tanks. That much is basic as shit, even the USA alone could outproduce Russia in a full-scale war. This is why Russia invests in nuclear weapons. To stop exactly this fanfic bullshit you're spewing.

But that is not the present situation. Spamming the names of military equipment (despite this same equipment being seen, time and time again, to fail to live up to expectations) does nothing - these Hellfires and Spikes are, again, all well and good - until Poland's government decides that they're not going to have another refugee crisis and immediately offers to mediate.
 
Yes, very.

They also wouldn't want to sacrifice their entire Armed Forces to rescue Ukraine. You seem to think that Poland or Romania looks at the Western countries, sees the niggers twerking in the distance, and loves you for you. They don't. They see you as a cash-cow and hate your culture.
For one I couldn't care less about the opionion of the white negroes of europe, and you must be retarded if you think they will sit still while russia get expansionist, even they are not that retarded
 
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