has anyone else started realizing just how censored the mainstream internet is?

[Drkinferno72]

Unironically go on the dark web for censor free content


I don’t mean the sick, red room crap, there’s plenty of chat rooms and news sisters there

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

I’ve been on the internet since the late 90s and noticed how “mainstream friendly” the internet became around 2010-2012.

Fortunately I got a bunch of family and work shit to do most of time. So I come on here to laugh at people, call someone a nigger, and be on my way. If I had more free time, I’d probably be more pissed at the lousy state of the internet.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I’ve been on the internet since the late 90s and noticed how “mainstream friendly” the internet became around 2010-2012.

Fortunately I got a bunch of family and work shit to do most of time. So I come on here to laugh at people, call someone a nigger, and be on my way. If I had more free time, I’d probably be more pissed at the lousy state of the internet.

Internet was still pretty decent as "recently" as 2015, but I noticed a sharp drop in 2016 and especially once Trump won, stuff like imdb shutting down it's message boards 5 years ago, entertainment news sites shifting to politics and outside of the corporate sphere, forum owners clamping down on free speech, ban waves etc.

It all went to shit.

Whatever's been decent, cool, entertaining or good, not just internet wise but in the culture in general has simply been the slow but steady run off of whatever was left of the influence of the world pre-Trump election, truly that was the beginning of the end and now 5 years later it's really getting bad.

 

[Michael Janke]

as 2015, but I noticed a sharp drop in 2016 and especially once Trump won, stuff like imdb shutting down it's message boards 5 years ago, entertainment news sites shifting to politics and outside of the corporate sphere, forum owners clamping down on free speech, ban waves etc.

i call that phenomenon the Moonman Effect.
the moment that moonman was purged from mainstream internet which lead to things like johhny rebel being removed and eventually the deplatforming of Alex Jones and internet bloodsports.

 

[timewave0]

Manipulating search engine algos alone, like Google does, gives the gubmint so much cover. The Ministry of Truth Wikipedia does half the Tribe's revisionism for them. That's not even touching Zogged out Google Image search results.
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Google has to be one of the most powerful institutions in all of human history in terms of their ability to influence thought on a global scale. As you alluded to, a few changes to a search algorithm here, a few terms added to a search blacklist there, and suddenly they’re controlling millions of people’s perception of an issue. It’s fucking insane.

The funniest examples of (possible) manipulation are “American inventors” and “white woman with children”
I’ve heard some plausible explanations for the latter but not for the former, though I just looked it up again and the results are less ludicrous than they were a few years ago. They have a negress who invented ethnic hair products listed ahead of Henry Ford and Tesla lmao

 

[tetetete]

I don't recall where I read it (and ironically I can't find the original page anymore) but somebody did a study on Reddit where they would reply to random comments with a single link and a message along the lines of "this comment has a link that will inform me when you click it".

A huge percentage of replies (I want to say 70 percent but again I am going off memory since I can't find the source) were users clicking the link almost instantly after he posted the comment, waiting a few minutes, then replying with something completely unrelated. The guy doing the study concluded based on this that most reddit users were bots.

What makes it really interesting is that one can openly buy reddit accounts and reddit upvote bots with real money, it's not even a secret. So I am inclined to believe him.

 

[Dom Cruise]

i call that phenomenon the Moonman Effect.
the moment that moonman was purged from mainstream internet which lead to things like johhny rebel being removed and eventually the deplatforming of Alex Jones and internet bloodsports.

I remember when you could find full on Neo Nazi content on YouTube or at least tons and tons of conspiracy theory stuff, now it's all been purged.

Google has to be one of the most powerful institutions in all of human history in terms of their ability to influence thought on a global scale. As you alluded to, a few changes to a search algorithm here, a few terms added to a search blacklist there, and suddenly they’re controlling millions of people’s perception of an issue. It’s fucking insane.

The funniest examples of (possible) manipulation are “American inventors” and “white woman with children”
I’ve heard some plausible explanations for the latter but not for the former, though I just looked it up again and the results are less ludicrous than they were a few years ago. They have a negress who invented ethnic hair products listed ahead of Henry Ford and Tesla lmao

It's terrifying, I remember I used to be a big believer in the whole silicon valley thing, the belief that these companies would make the world a better place, now they're making the world a worse place by burying the truth.

It's obvious what happened, they panicked and scrambled because all of a sudden certain left wing beliefs started to be called into question, their attempts at burying certain right wing beliefs only makes those beliefs seem more valid, not less, I'd be much more skeptical if this was like it was a decade ago, but when there's certain things they REALLY don't want you to say or believe well it must be for good reason.

 

[Michael Janke]

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you know whats interesting about this? no matter what they tried, they failed anyway.
conspiracy theories were historically thought of by people considered fringe. by trying to purge it from google, its back to being fringe again. they didnt stop conspiracies, they pushed it back to where it was.
even then, conspiracy theorist back in the day didnt have platforms like duckduckgo, twitter, facebook, instagram and all the alt video platforms and social media platforms. conspriacys still travel 1000x faster than they ever could back in the 70s. so the only thing they accomplished is slowing it down slightly.

 

[KID NAMED SCHWARMAPUNK]

I've moved from duckduckgo for the same reason.

Got a suggestion?

 

[Raw Onion Enjoyer]

I don't recall where I read it (and ironically I can't find the original page anymore) but somebody did a study on Reddit where they would reply to random comments with a single link and a message along the lines of "this comment has a link that will inform me when you click it".

A huge percentage of replies (I want to say 70 percent but again I am going off memory since I can't find the source) were users clicking the link almost instantly after he posted the comment, waiting a few minutes, then replying with something completely unrelated. The guy doing the study concluded based on this that most reddit users were bots.

What makes it really interesting is that one can openly buy reddit accounts and reddit upvote bots with real money, it's not even a secret. So I am inclined to believe him.

Remember how in ~2016 anyone who disagreed with globohomo was called a russian bot? Not a troll, not a shill but a bot. Was it predictive programming like the anti-vax memes in past decades? Or maybe just a case of "accuse enemy of that you are guilty of" once again? Back then I couldn't comprehend how can anyone be a bot when even those so called most advanced chat bots were making barely any sense. But with all the machine learning today in EVERYTHING the bot theory is way more plausible.

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Got a suggestion?

Probably Yandex, which as demonstrated by Null in the Mad at the Internet streams, isn't always reliable and he still has to resort to Google sometimes because other search engines just aren't as good.

It's shocking how people will openly say duckduckgo is for neo-nazis and white nationalists only, but don't realize it uses google's shit and is censored almost as badly. lol. I use Yandex when I really want to find something but that's probably the next to go, if it hasn't already.

Some people just want to drop N bombs without being banned too!

DuckDuckGo is based on Microsoft's Bing search engine, not Google.

The New York Times ran an article just today on how Duck Duck Go is only used by Nazi white supremacists who want to destroy whatever.

None of this is new, it's just more and more blatant.

This is weird because i've seen billboards in Boston advertising DuckDuckGo. They're also the most recommended search engine by Firefox users, which also includes Linux users since Firefox tends to be bundled with distros.

 

[Michael Janke]

DuckDuckGo is based on Microsoft's Bing search engine, not Google.

even if it is based on microsofts engine, that could mean a lot of things.
maybe it just uses the core algorthm it uses to find things, but turns off most if not all the filters.
the obvious exception would be onion based sites. like silk road and CP type sites.
if a search engine made those easy to find, the government would shut it down, so thats the bare minimum it has to censor.

 

[Ronnie McNutt]

giving internet access to consoomers was a mistake

 

[Ass_manager]

I'm eagerly awaiting different separated internets. The globohomo lgbtgq+ nigger friendly narrative, the russia-chinosphere, and a separate dark web where the weebs like us will waste our scarce time on this good 'ol earth.

 

[Vect]

Seperate social media by country - that means everyone is chatting within the same ecosystem, and ban it from places where schools are made from cardboard boxes.

My dad, who has completely forgotten how to operate a computer, can't process it when I tell him that places like Reddit are so heavily modded. I told him, yes, there are a range of opinions and facts that are not considered politically correct that are likely to get scrubbed and he went "So what's the point?". Says it all, really. Sometimes Internet illiteracy has its insights.

But before you get too carried away by censorship, remind yourself - it's not China. Yet.

 

[General Gunther]

The cold hard truth is that shortly before and after Trump got elected in 2016, mainstream television news media and the narratives that they pushed were effectively almost dead. While the television news media have lower ratings than ever the narratives they push are more stronger than ever, it's just online now. All they had to do was ban Alex Jones from all the major social media platforms in 2018 and make it seem like it was fully justified to do so then they can go from there and go after anything else they deemed a threat.

Nowadays independent media is harder to find now if you are the average person online because either it's shadow banned where it isn't exactly removed from the site but it's harder to find it or it is fully banned from these platforms.

That's really why the people who celebrated the banning of Alex Jones are so evil and stupid. It's not just about free speech, they emboldened and empowered Big Tech and these heads in charge of mainstream media to start silencing any information or people that stands in the way of whatever they want or are doing at the moment. You effectively made the world a worse place by doing this.

At this point if someone still says something to the effect of an Orange Man Bad argument, the only time I will even remotely agree with you is if it's related to his inability to stop Big Tech censorship.

 

[polackerino]

Google has to be one of the most powerful institutions in all of human history in terms of their ability to influence thought on a global scale. As you alluded to, a few changes to a search algorithm here, a few terms added to a search blacklist there, and suddenly they’re controlling millions of people’s perception of an issue. It’s fucking insane.

The funniest examples of (possible) manipulation are “American inventors” and “white woman with children”
I’ve heard some plausible explanations for the latter but not for the former, though I just looked it up again and the results are less ludicrous than they were a few years ago. They have a negress who invented ethnic hair products listed ahead of Henry Ford and Tesla lmao

What you should do is archive the examples for any KFer to behold. I can't be fucked to go to google.com because you say, not show, that there's something interesting there

 

[trailcamwhore]

DuckDuckGo is based on Microsoft's Bing search engine, not Google.

Can't find anything about it because searching the internet doesn't work anymore, but I've seen mention of both Bing and DDG using "Google data" to "train" their search engines. Coincidentally, they stopped working.

Brave search was the last one standing, at least in English, but it's been "trained" now too. It forgets your settings if you turn "Safe Search" off (but not if you turn it on). The first result when you search for "Alex Jones" is an ADL page. Etc.

It's over.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Seperate social media by country - that means everyone is chatting within the same ecosystem, and ban it from places where schools are made from cardboard boxes.

My dad, who has completely forgotten how to operate a computer, can't process it when I tell him that places like Reddit are so heavily modded. I told him, yes, there are a range of opinions and facts that are not considered politically correct that are likely to get scrubbed and he went "So what's the point?". Says it all, really. Sometimes Internet illiteracy has its insights.

But before you get too carried away by censorship, remind yourself - it's not China. Yet.

Yeah, one of my literal Boomer relatives doesn't use ApplePay or do online banking. Hard to argue against that strategy.

 

[Bonesjones]

Remember how in ~2016 anyone who disagreed with globohomo was called a russian bot? Not a troll, not a shill but a bot. Was it predictive programming like the anti-vax memes in past decades? Or maybe just a case of "accuse enemy of that you are guilty of" once again? Back then I couldn't comprehend how can anyone be a bot when even those so called most advanced chat bots were making barely any sense. But with all the machine learning today in EVERYTHING the bot theory is way more plausible.

Instead of having bots try to invent text wholesale, they just have them cut and paste previously well liked posts. So you take 50 or 100 posts that are rated well on reddit, then manually cut them into sections. Then, the bot just posts those sections in different orders under different usernames. When the activity is heavy, it's hard to really notice since it's all the same talking points and things move so fast that they all blur together anyway. When you invent the news you can have a handful of people prewrite all the scripts so it seems even more organic.

The internet is evil in ways most people can't imagine.