Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[booklover]

I tend to agree, but any type of vaccination is considered parental choice and not neglect. Many times though, I feel the parents are just lazy and get the exemption so they don't have to be bothered. It has nothing to do with their 'religious beliefs' or buying into the vaccines cause the autism argument.

Fun fact: The only 2 religions that openly prohibit vaccination are Christian Scientists and the Dutch Reformed Church.
Islamic content time!
They have determined that when something unclean is used to make a medicine that thing (pigs) is “fundamentally transformed” and not unclean to use. Also vaccination is a responsibility of parents and the right of children: It is the responsibility of parents to look after the welfare of their children by providing them good education, righteous upbringing, nutrition and health care.

Here's a list of vaccines that people who do the Hajj must take before they enter Saudi Arabia.

Hajj and Umrah Health Requirements | The Embassy of The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

www.saudiembassy.net

 

[AnOminous]

We still use this classification system, but it's high-functioning vs low-functioning, which I think is meant to be distinguishing between people who could be independent and those who can't.

And that's what the previous educable/trainable distinction did too. The problem is any word you use to refer to a group of people who are effectively completely incapable of an independent life, although they're not so bad they need to be permanently committed, is itself going to gather a cloud of connotations around it.

The euphemism treadmill is dumb. Who is actually being protected by changing the words out from under us when everyone knows that guy in the corner is retarded?

Here's a list of vaccines that people who do the Hajj must take before they enter Saudi Arabia.

I rated you :islamic: but the good kind.

 

[MysticMisty]

And that's what the previous educable/trainable distinction did too. The problem is any word you use to refer to a group of people who are effectively completely incapable of an independent life, although they're not so bad they need to be permanently committed, is itself going to gather a cloud of connotations around it.

The euphemism treadmill is dumb. Who is actually being protected by changing the words out from under us when everyone knows that guy in the corner is retarded?

Special needs is very quickly becoming the new retarded. Give it a few more years and we'll get a brand new euphemism and start the cycle all over again. Social media keeps pushing neurodivergent, maybe it'll be that. Maybe differently abled will stick this time. Maybe we'll circle back around to idiocy or something like that. Who fucking knows, but it sucks, and it sucks for the people trying to help tards and keep having to dance around upsetting sensitive parents instead.

 

[son of jurassic bark]

Ayo, that's why it's called the euphemism treadmill. But if it works for now (and hasn't been used in genocidal eugenicist propaganda yet), it works.

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

Hey @WhatTheEffIsThat I know you're new and for some reason I can't quote you but can you please use the spoiler tag for that wall of text next time?

What is even wrong with that kid? Does she ever say?

 

[GenociderSyo]

@WhatTheEffIsThat whats her tiktok account can't read it off the video. Curious to look into what the kid has.

 

[OrSoHelpMe]

@WhatTheEffIsThat whats her tiktok account can't read it off the video. Curious to look into what the kid has.

The TikTok is haleeandzeke, I took a quick peek but couldn’t find the answer.

 

[GenociderSyo]

The TikTok is haleeandzeke, I took a quick peek but couldn’t find the answer.

Arthrogryposis Multiplex Congenita and cleft palate it seems. Looks like they are already doing casting albiet a tad late on his legs.

Found that if they have an IG thats where the diagnosis is and she posts it in the summary there.

 

[WhatTheEffIsThat]

Arthrogryposis Multiplex Congenita and cleft palate it seems. Looks like they are already doing casting albiet a tad late on his legs.

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Found that if they have an IG thats where the diagnosis is and she posts it in the summary there.
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Ok so I just did some reading on it too and I am not sure I am understanding but what I'm seeing is that this is usually caused by some other condition or is at least there in conjunction of another condition? Because this child seems mentally off to me as well, he's 6 months old and seems like a 3 month old and his face is so weird and syndrome-y to me but when u ask about his condition at all she never replies only to grifting comments asking what she needs.

 

[Allo Vera]

There was a girl on a U.K. documentary series about disability and she had arthrogryposis. She was otherwise a normal kid. I agree that little boy has a syndrome-y face and probably has other things going on.

It seems reasonably common for genetic syndromes to affect the limbs. I’m thinking of talipes mainly, which can be a soft marker for tons of things.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Ok so I just did some reading on it too and I am not sure I am understanding but what I'm seeing is that this is usually caused by some other condition or is at least there in conjunction of another condition? Because this child seems mentally off to me as well, he's 6 months old and seems like a 3 month old and his face is so weird and syndrome-y to me but when u ask about his condition at all she never replies only to grifting comments asking what she needs. View attachment 3013218View attachment 3013219

I did a write up on it here:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/disorders-diseases-oddities-thread.88555/page-2#post-8862980

But he may have more going on she is not stating.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Working with the most profoundly disabled adults made me question their humanity. These 'people' had no communication. Absolutely zero interaction with their surroundings. Pretty sure some would score just great on the coma scale. Their quality of life, if you could call it that, was nonexistant. There was no joy for them, just physical discomfort and pain.

The people working with them were fucking kidding themselves. These retards didn't 'enjoy' anything. There was absolutely no point in dragging them out of their group home to a day program and back 5 days a week. All it did was pay wages for people to 'care for' the meat sacks who would be just as fine (if not more so) at their home.

And somehow, grouped in with these potatoes, would be people capable of communication. Actual humans interacting with their environment and maybe even other people. All of that money could've gone to give this group the best possible life, but no, let's wheel around people who are practically comatose. Shove em in a vent farm like they belong.

Like you wanna talk about IQ? You can't even measure it once its this low. These potatoes don't even score on it. You're better off literally using a fecking coma scale score. There is no horror like the truly untrainable.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Ok so I just did some reading on it too and I am not sure I am understanding but what I'm seeing is that this is usually caused by some other condition or is at least there in conjunction of another condition? Because this child seems mentally off to me as well, he's 6 months old and seems like a 3 month old and his face is so weird and syndrome-y to me but when u ask about his condition at all she never replies only to grifting comments asking what she needs. View attachment 3013218View attachment 3013219

You're basically correct. Arthrogryposis is usually a consequence of something else. It happens when a fetus cannot move normally. The joints become contracted before the baby is even born. Obviously, the things that make a fetus unable to move are generally catastrophic.

Edited to add some shameless self-promotion. I sperged about arthrogryposis earlier in this thread.

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[Android raptor]

Here's a list of vaccines that people who do the Hajj must take before they enter Saudi Arabia.

Hajj and Umrah Health Requirements | The Embassy of The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

www.saudiembassy.net

Yeah that makes sense and is the good kind of Islamic, since people come from all over the world to make that pilgrimage and you definitely don't want serious diseases in that environment. Other pious adherents of abrahamic religions need to take that lead.

The cousin marriage that creates Hartley-tier genetic abominations, not so much (though I know that shit isnt unique to islam/the middle east since we all know European royals were just as into incest until relatively recently).

On the subject of tards in school, ultimately I feel like disabled kids themselves tend to get the shortest end of the stick and treated as problems more than people. Sped is a field that attracts a lot of terrible people, and abuse of disabled kids gets written off far more than normies are aware I think. Behavior is communication and based on my personal experience I feel like no matter the functioning level, 9/10 a kid who has serious behavior problems is going thru some kind of stressful shit they cant cope with.

 

[Skitterways]

On the subject of tards in school, ultimately I feel like disabled kids themselves tend to get the shortest end of the stick and treated as problems more than people. Sped is a field that attracts a lot of terrible people, and abuse of disabled kids gets written off far more than normies are aware I think. Behavior is communication and based on my personal experience I feel like no matter the functioning level, 9/10 a kid who has serious behavior problems is going thru some kind of stressful shit they cant cope with.

SPED attracts some terrible people, but also so really good ones. A major problem right now is teacher retention. I've mentioned before that I live in a densely populated, urban area with a lot of kids labeled SPED. Because of the pandemic, anyone who could retire did so early on in the pandemic. Many teachers left for private sector jobs, became self-employed during the shut down, or decided to become stay at home parents.
The teachers that stayed are fed up. They don't get lunch breaks or planning time most weeks. Because there is a school bus driver shortage, 6 buses may come at dismissal, pick students up for home and return to the school to pick more students up. Dismissal takes much longer and teachers, teachers assistants, security, and administration are expected to stay to supervise the students.
A lot of the teachers that stayed are planning to bail after this year. Teachers are angry, parents are angry, student behavior problems are really bad post virtual learning. I really don't know how my area is going to function. The public school system here super stressed right now.

 

[wes]

Many times though, I feel the parents are just lazy and get the exemption so they don't have to be bothered. It has nothing to do with their 'religious beliefs' or buying into the vaccines cause the autism argument.

I have to respectfully disagree. It is much easier to get your kids vaccinated than to deal with the school badgering you and having to continually prove that vaccinations are against your "beliefs." You have to doctor shop for a doctor who will deal with your kids being unvaccinated and, if I'm remembering correctly, in some cases get a lawyer involved if you're met with resistance. To be clear, I don't agree with doing this; I'm just familiar with what others have experienced.

I do agree that 90% of the time it has nothing to do with "religious beliefs." People who are crunchy enough to put weight in vaccines causing autism and similar ideas are usually dedicated enough to go through the process I explained.

 

[Android raptor]

SPED attracts some terrible people, but also so really good ones. A major problem right now is teacher retention. I've mentioned before that I live in a densely populated, urban area with a lot of kids labeled SPED. Because of the pandemic, anyone who could retire did so early on in the pandemic. Many teachers left for private sector jobs, became self-employed during the shut down, or decided to become stay at home parents.
The teachers that stayed are fed up. They don't get lunch breaks or planning time most weeks. Because there is a school bus driver shortage, 6 buses may come at dismissal, pick students up for home and return to the school to pick more students up. Dismissal takes much longer and teachers, teachers assistants, security, and administration are expected to stay to supervise the students.
A lot of the teachers that stayed are planning to bail after this year. Teachers are angry, parents are angry, student behavior problems are really bad post virtual learning. I really don't know how my area is going to function. The public school system here super stressed right now.

Also the teachers that aren't good are often very good at manipulating and fooling others, same with any abusers. It's a lot of the same basic problems as with organized religion re:abusive assholes figuring out how to manipulate the system to get away with shit.

 

[Skitterways]

I have to respectfully disagree. It is much easier to get your kids vaccinated than to deal with the school badgering you and having to continually prove that vaccinations are against your "beliefs." You have to doctor shop for a doctor who will deal with your kids being unvaccinated and, if I'm remembering correctly, in some cases get a lawyer involved if you're met with resistance. To be clear, I don't agree with doing this; I'm just familiar with what others have experienced.

I do agree that 90% of the time it has nothing to do with "religious beliefs." People who are crunchy enough to put weight in vaccines causing autism and similar ideas are usually dedicated enough to go through the process I explained.

Well, I respectfully disagree too. In Virginia, all you need is to get your signature notarized stating vaccination is against your religious beliefs. Legit. Get the form your local school uses and go to your bank for a free notary seal. So long as you stay in state, the exemption will follow and apply to your unvaxxed offspring through different school systems. Move out of state and the parent has to play by that state's rules. Easy peasy. No lawyers needed.

The only downside is if there is an outbreak in your area of say pertussis (whooping cough) and your kid is unvaxxed; they go and stay home for their protection until the outbreak is contained. This is why vaccination records aren't protected by HIPPA. If there is an outbreak (yes, it's happened) the state and the schools need to identify who is at risk and isolate them. Employers too, especially if the unvaxxed works in healthcare and there is an outbreak.

 

[booklover]

Earlier today, I saw an interview on CNN with a man who ran an orphanage and home for disabled children in the southeastern Ukrainian city of Mykolaiv was based and he talked about how they knew their city was targeted, and they were putting children whose parents were dead or could not be located on trains, headed to Odessa and from there to Moldova if they could cross the border. Very sad story, and he admitted that he was also asking for money. By the time I was able to get to my computer and access that site, it had crashed.

The name has Christian overtones, but the website suggests that the organization is secular.

Abundance International | Nonprofit Organization

abundanceinternational.org

 

[Skitterways]

https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/docs/school-vaccinations.pdf

Nifty CDC pdf on state requirements and exceptions for school vaccinations. Check out page 3. 4 states out of 50 only allow for medical exceptions to opt out of school vaccinations. Mississippi, California, New York, and West Virginia.

Larger copy of pie chart from CDC:

CDC - Vaccination Laws - Publications by Topic - Public Health Law

CDC works with public health agencies to improve and sustain immunization coverage and to monitor the safety of vaccines. One tool used is vaccination law.

www.cdc.gov