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All the more reason I'm glad we have the Bill of Rights.
Canadian Truckers Convoy 2022 - The Leaf calls you a Nazi as he gasses you
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Bob jensen
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That bill is horrifying and a precedent for 1984 levels.
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Personally I don't think we are that far off from Canada installing a fence with barbed wire at the border. Not to keep Americans out, but to keep Canadians in. Every travel restriction instituted by the PMO has had very little to do with keeping the virus out. They were designed to keep Canadians from travelling abroad. This fits with the whole WEF agenda too. I read an article some time ago that really got my noggin joggin about where the time line goes from you can leave to you can't leave without approval. If you have the time, it offers some insight into our situation even if taken proverbially. It suggests that if you do not act, you will find the hard line where it is too late.
Here is an excerpt from an Epoch Times article entitled,
"The law will not protect us. The law is a product of culture, and when the culture turns, the law goes with it. Yes, our Charter of Rights and Freedoms appears to guarantee liberty and the fundamental freedoms of conscience, thought, belief, opinion, expression, peaceful assembly, and association, as well as mobility rights to enter and leave Canada and to live in any province.
Some of those rights are now infringed, but so far, courts have mostly said “meh.” Charter rights are subject to “reasonable limits” in Section 1 and the Supreme Court of Canada has long guarded the ability of the managerial state to do what it thinks best. As former chief justice Beverley McLachlin once wrote, “The bar of constitutionality must not be set so high that responsible, creative solutions to difficult problems would be threatened.” What constitutes responsible and creative, of course, is for the government and the courts, not the individual, to decide."
Here is an excerpt from an Epoch Times article entitled,
The First Obstacle Is Our Confidence That Things Won’t Get Worse
dated April 2021, Archive."The law will not protect us. The law is a product of culture, and when the culture turns, the law goes with it. Yes, our Charter of Rights and Freedoms appears to guarantee liberty and the fundamental freedoms of conscience, thought, belief, opinion, expression, peaceful assembly, and association, as well as mobility rights to enter and leave Canada and to live in any province.
Some of those rights are now infringed, but so far, courts have mostly said “meh.” Charter rights are subject to “reasonable limits” in Section 1 and the Supreme Court of Canada has long guarded the ability of the managerial state to do what it thinks best. As former chief justice Beverley McLachlin once wrote, “The bar of constitutionality must not be set so high that responsible, creative solutions to difficult problems would be threatened.” What constitutes responsible and creative, of course, is for the government and the courts, not the individual, to decide."
Between 1961, when the Berlin Wall was built, and 1989 when it came down, many daring escapes were made across the wall to freedom. By some accounts, around 5,000 people managed the feat, risking their lives in some audacious way like crawling through tunnels, using fake passports, flying in hot air balloons, walking tightropes, or busting through the wall in tanks, hoping not to be shot by border guards. Many thousands of people made the attempt and a couple of hundred are thought to have died in the attempt.
These individuals were willing to risk their lives to be free. Yet they did not bother to escape from East Berlin before the wall was built. For a dozen years, East and West Berlin almost seemed like they were still one city and travelling into West Berlin to defect was one of the easiest ways to escape East Germany. Hundreds did so every day—so many, in fact, that in August 1961, East German authorities resolved to shut the door. On Aug. 13, 1961, shocked residents of East Berlin awoke to find barbed wire between them and the West. Two days later, construction of the wall began. Why did some people wait? They may have been confident that conditions could not get worse.
Many people seem to believe that now. When COVID lockdowns began in March 2020 for “two weeks to flatten the curve,” some of us warned that a dangerous precedent had been set from which we would not easily recover. “Crises are an ideal time for the state to advance into territory from which it will not wish to retreat,” I wrote last spring, “In this new era, we will discover that leaders of all political stripes have more than a little Lenin in them.” Some dismissed the sentiment with a wave of the hand. Don’t worry about it, they said, just a temporary measure to get us through a difficult spot.
Thirteen months later in Ontario, Premier Doug Ford has announced the extension of the present stay-at-home order. Ontario Provincial Police have established checkpoints at the Quebec and Manitoba borders to bar travellers. “Non-essential” retail businesses are closed. Labour inspectors will visit offices to check for compliance with provincial guidelines. Police have been granted powers to stop people on the street or in their car upon suspicion that they are headed to a “social gathering” and ask for their address and the purpose of their trip. Papers please, comrade. Quarantine hotels are our gulags. Soon, vaccine passports will be our barbed wire.
Western liberal democracies, especially Canada, have descended into authoritarianism. COVID appears to be the reason, but this transformation has long been underway. The virus simply unleashed the gathering storm. Over time, managerial states have steadily expanded their reach into every aspect of modern life. Governments supervise behaviour and speech, mainstream media propagandize, public schools and universities indoctrinate, and professional regulators require ideological comportment. The chattering classes now demonize the ideas upon which their own civilization is based, including the sovereignty of the individual over the group, freedom of speech, and equality of treatment under the law. While we once celebrated liberties and achievements, people are now fearful, ashamed, dependent, and obedient.
The law will not protect us. The law is a product of culture, and when the culture turns, the law goes with it. Yes, our Charter of Rights and Freedoms appears to guarantee liberty and the fundamental freedoms of conscience, thought, belief, opinion, expression, peaceful assembly, and association, as well as mobility rights to enter and leave Canada and to live in any province.
Some of those rights are now infringed, but so far, courts have mostly said “meh.” Charter rights are subject to “reasonable limits” in Section 1 and the Supreme Court of Canada has long guarded the ability of the managerial state to do what it thinks best. As former chief justice Beverley McLachlin once wrote, “The bar of constitutionality must not be set so high that responsible, creative solutions to difficult problems would be threatened.” What constitutes responsible and creative, of course, is for the government and the courts, not the individual, to decide.
The historical record shows that Western freedom is an aberration. Human civilization tends to consist of tyranny, oppression, slavery, and violence. The present period of relative liberty may be fading fast, a fragile blip in a panoply of misery. As Professor Gary Morson of Northwestern University has written, “One sometimes hears that ‘the pendulum is bound to swing back.’ But how does one know there is a pendulum at all, rather than—let us say—a snowball accelerating downhill? … What meets no resistance does not stop.”
If we continue to acquiesce, perhaps sanity, liberty, and individualism will return next year. Perhaps they will take 20 years. Or perhaps they will be gone for good.
Bruce Pardy is professor of law at Queen’s University.
These individuals were willing to risk their lives to be free. Yet they did not bother to escape from East Berlin before the wall was built. For a dozen years, East and West Berlin almost seemed like they were still one city and travelling into West Berlin to defect was one of the easiest ways to escape East Germany. Hundreds did so every day—so many, in fact, that in August 1961, East German authorities resolved to shut the door. On Aug. 13, 1961, shocked residents of East Berlin awoke to find barbed wire between them and the West. Two days later, construction of the wall began. Why did some people wait? They may have been confident that conditions could not get worse.
Many people seem to believe that now. When COVID lockdowns began in March 2020 for “two weeks to flatten the curve,” some of us warned that a dangerous precedent had been set from which we would not easily recover. “Crises are an ideal time for the state to advance into territory from which it will not wish to retreat,” I wrote last spring, “In this new era, we will discover that leaders of all political stripes have more than a little Lenin in them.” Some dismissed the sentiment with a wave of the hand. Don’t worry about it, they said, just a temporary measure to get us through a difficult spot.
Thirteen months later in Ontario, Premier Doug Ford has announced the extension of the present stay-at-home order. Ontario Provincial Police have established checkpoints at the Quebec and Manitoba borders to bar travellers. “Non-essential” retail businesses are closed. Labour inspectors will visit offices to check for compliance with provincial guidelines. Police have been granted powers to stop people on the street or in their car upon suspicion that they are headed to a “social gathering” and ask for their address and the purpose of their trip. Papers please, comrade. Quarantine hotels are our gulags. Soon, vaccine passports will be our barbed wire.
Western liberal democracies, especially Canada, have descended into authoritarianism. COVID appears to be the reason, but this transformation has long been underway. The virus simply unleashed the gathering storm. Over time, managerial states have steadily expanded their reach into every aspect of modern life. Governments supervise behaviour and speech, mainstream media propagandize, public schools and universities indoctrinate, and professional regulators require ideological comportment. The chattering classes now demonize the ideas upon which their own civilization is based, including the sovereignty of the individual over the group, freedom of speech, and equality of treatment under the law. While we once celebrated liberties and achievements, people are now fearful, ashamed, dependent, and obedient.
The law will not protect us. The law is a product of culture, and when the culture turns, the law goes with it. Yes, our Charter of Rights and Freedoms appears to guarantee liberty and the fundamental freedoms of conscience, thought, belief, opinion, expression, peaceful assembly, and association, as well as mobility rights to enter and leave Canada and to live in any province.
Some of those rights are now infringed, but so far, courts have mostly said “meh.” Charter rights are subject to “reasonable limits” in Section 1 and the Supreme Court of Canada has long guarded the ability of the managerial state to do what it thinks best. As former chief justice Beverley McLachlin once wrote, “The bar of constitutionality must not be set so high that responsible, creative solutions to difficult problems would be threatened.” What constitutes responsible and creative, of course, is for the government and the courts, not the individual, to decide.
The historical record shows that Western freedom is an aberration. Human civilization tends to consist of tyranny, oppression, slavery, and violence. The present period of relative liberty may be fading fast, a fragile blip in a panoply of misery. As Professor Gary Morson of Northwestern University has written, “One sometimes hears that ‘the pendulum is bound to swing back.’ But how does one know there is a pendulum at all, rather than—let us say—a snowball accelerating downhill? … What meets no resistance does not stop.”
If we continue to acquiesce, perhaps sanity, liberty, and individualism will return next year. Perhaps they will take 20 years. Or perhaps they will be gone for good.
Bruce Pardy is professor of law at Queen’s University.
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Of fucking course. "Better get your booster, guise, because this one is a real problem, eh?"
They were always going to do this, because once the protesters were rounded up like cattle and shuttled away, and Ukraine popped up in the public's consciousness, they are back to square one. I remember when we reached 75% vaccination all restrictions would end. Then we were in yet another lockdown and a police state. Ford actually wanted cops at every highway and every checkpoint. People applauded that.
He was a druggie, but an honest druggie. And he at least lost weight.
Absolutely. Very few people are talking about Blackface Trudeau or what he has done. Boomers are praising Freeland for her stances against Russia. Their spec-ops are already complete and they are burning the paper trails. They're already changing their tunes in support of lockdowns, saying they 'never supported it'. The Ukraine conflict was perfect for them and the world has moved on. So nothing changes.
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Never relax, but keep on their toes. Once you relax they will see your weakness.
Freeland, the Nazi granddaughter, should never be forgiven. Sure she's waxing poetic about UKRANIAN freedoms but not your own. And people have noticed.
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The problem I have with the act is it relies upon the fear of the victim. This in and of itself isn't problematic because this is how restraining orders work anyway. You get an order of protection when you are concerned that someone specific might be harming or about to harm you or your interests. This relies upon a personal engagement taking place. I don't think I'd have a strong case to get a restraining order if some random passerby called me a hateful word. The issue with fear in this case is that it is a fear of bias. We are living in a Canada where the leadership is the driving force behind the 'othering' of Canadians. As soon as you say something that the 'others' would say, you'd be committing hate speech, because someone fears your bias.
Correct me if I'm retarded, but the precedent this sets combined with Trudeau calling swathes of Canadians wifebeaters and Nazis does not bode well for the future of about half of Canadians. Trudeau believes what occurred in Ottawa was an act of hate and he will use this against people who act out again.
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This coupled with @Cynically Insane 's post that I can't quote makes me wonder why the Trudeau govt continually demonizes specific groups but then also won't let those groups leave. It's one of the things that's unsettled me since the election when Trudeau implemented his travel ban for the unvaxxed, but this applies to other stuff too. Like all the calls for conservative politicians to be purged because anything right-leaning is wrongthink.
They have to browbeat people into submission and fealty rather than letting them go peacefully and just replacing them with podpeople.
And even after someone folds to the pressure, they're still not forgiven! They'll never forget how you were on "the wrong side of history" no matter how much you repent about it.
They despise you and want you gone or dead but they won't let you leave.
Anyway reading parts of the bill it sounds like it would be a perfect way to indirectly ban certain types of protests (ex: anti-mandate) but not protests altogether.
They would be able to target people on social media that they know are involved in them, point to their past posts about them, make up some bs like "your rhetoric harms healthcare workers", and then be able to ban them from gathering with other protesters.
Am I reading too much into it or does anyone else think that? lol
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The only Russian exports I can think of are what, Vodka, AK’s, and dash cam footage.
Russia is just Cold Florida, change my mind
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Super-Chevy454
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Not only 1984 but also some zest of Kafka, Brave New World and Fahrenheit-451.
Bob jensen
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My kid read all those books and .. evidently it wasn't a cautionary tale..
THEY STOLE MY FORESKIN
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I think this wasn't posted yet, but the MP who claimed that honk honk is a codeword for Heil Hitler doubled down:
I have to commend their ability to make everything about themselves, ALWAYS. She seriously should seek psychiatric attention.
I'll let Kiwifarms respond to that.
I have to commend their ability to make everything about themselves, ALWAYS. She seriously should seek psychiatric attention.
I'll let Kiwifarms respond to that.
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BLOW ME.
It really is a borderline mental illness, isn't it?
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You're not reading too much into it. We have to take things at face value. You don't need to be a conspiracy nut or schizo to see this for exactly what it is, and it's horrifying how plainly obvious it is.
Trudeau won't let the bad guys leave because he needs a scapegoat to galvanize the people under his rule. COVID didn't work as a unifying event, and I don't think it was ever thought by them that it would be. The longer this goes on, the more openly and obviously the negative rhetoric comes from the top down, instead of in the beginning where politicians pressed people not to politicize the virus. That didn't last long. There effectively is no more pandemic. There's no headlines anymore, people aren't dropping like flies, the numbers are relatively stable, and yet they keep pressing down harder and harder.
The rhetoric of trusting the science and protecting our most vulnerable and preserving the capacity of our healthcare system rapidly became one of division, doubt, disinformation, and name-calling.
TPTB need people like us to stick around so they can remind the proles who they're being protected from by these harsh laws. Without dissenters in the population, these laws are unjustifiable. JT found a group that can easily be thought of as murderers for killing grandma by not wearing a mask to non-thinking normies, and have been casted as a white nationalist hate group that wants a white ethnostate, and anyone following this movement that doesn't want that has unfortunately been duped and needs to rethink their position.
I've been wondering if I've just lost my mind lately.
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Obviously, you haven't. The entire affair reeks of "How dare you question your betters?" elitism., and it's utterly sickening. "Of course we're the Good People. The enlightened ones. How dare these nobodies deign to think they can talk to The Chosen like that?"
Someone linked the "We cook your meals. We haul your trash...Do not fuck with us." scene from "Fight Club" a few hundred pages back. If anyone wants to do something like this in the future, I suggest they bring big-ass speakers and an HD projector along so they can just display that scene on repeat on the walls of whatever government building they choose.
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Have seen Russian frozen crab legs at Costco. Once had a windbreaker made in Russia. Years ago had a Makarov pistol.
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May the horse be with her, all three holes, all the time.I think this wasn't posted yet, but the MP who claimed that honk honk is a codeword for Heil Hitler doubled down:
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I have to commend their ability to make everything about themselves, ALWAYS. She seriously should seek psychiatric attention.
I'll let Kiwifarms respond to that.
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As if tech dystopia wasn't enough pushing for protecting from crimes that might happen.
I suppose wasting time of the establishment for filing for protection from local police officers as individuals could create quite the paradox.
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It really sucks that Hanukkah only happens once a year. She would absolutely have an aneurysm if a virtual army of usernames like xxx_420killthekikes69_xxx and 14withjewsyoulose88 started wishing her Happy Hanukkah (HH).
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So I finally found info on the Winnipeg MB honkening. Apparently the protesters had been outside the legislature for 3 weeks(!! impressive), and had made an agreement with the police to leave. Well, "leave" from in front of the legislature - and move to Memorial Park.
I had posted the other day some videos where some local natives were getting involved, and I had noticed them building something but I didn't know what. Turns out it's going to be a fucking lodge
Videos from yesterday so you know what I'm talking about:
I'm interested to see if they'll actually be able to build it or not lol
I had posted the other day some videos where some local natives were getting involved, and I had noticed them building something but I didn't know what. Turns out it's going to be a fucking lodge
Videos from yesterday so you know what I'm talking about:
I'm interested to see if they'll actually be able to build it or not lol