Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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I'm mildly skeptical on this one since that one MRAP doesn't look like other MRAP variants I've seen Russia use before.
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That MRAP is most likely a TIGR-M variant which is a Russian vic
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A_Callow_Youth said:
@SCSI you taking the day off, or is it a slow news day?
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:heart-full:

Catching up on the thread to make sure I don't post late or debunked junk, and god damn was there a lot of tardfighting earlier. Thought I was gonna break the scroll wheel off my mouse skimming past that mess. Will resume trawling for kahntent in about an hour or so.
 
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ColtWalker1847 said:
The Ukraine has had western-aligned governments since 2005. The push was for EU ascension. They never asked for NATO help until Russia started breaking off pieces of it. NATO told them no. Now Russia is coming for the rest. NATO still ain't done shit. West can't get it's shit together enough to agree on a sanctions package.

Pretty fuckin' sure the NATO thing is just some bullshit Russia made up.
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"The Ukraine".

Found the Russkie. :philthy:
 
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Glowie Hunter Art Bell said:
Problem is they were already a husk to begin with. Russia has been fucked for years, gutted by the fall of the USSR.

Resources mean jack shit when no one will buy them from you besides some camel fuckers, and even then its only chump change. You can turn inward, but as I said before, the population is absolutely apathetic as fuck and poor as shit. You could shoot their children in from of them and so long as they had a drink and a smoke they'd shrug and walk away. Its also riddled with disease, inbreeding, drug abuse and alcoholism. Seriously, look at how some of the russian and Ukrainian fucks look.

While this is a pretty big event, in the end its gunna be a nothing burger, and a negative mark for Russia.

Biden is always pants'd. The man is a fucking embarrassement. Physically cringed listening to his speech earlier.
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This may be a little controversial/debatable, but I think there's a problem with this kind of "husk" talk. On an individual level, each country seems pretty messed up, yet seemingly everywhere is fucked at once, perhaps balancing out as if more or less nothing is going on in relative terms.

The West is fucked with real industry offshored, fertility crisis among natives, diversity crisis due to mass migration, endless covid lockdown hysteria, etc. China has an even worse fertility rate, and a more pressing demographic issue without Great Replacement migration, meaning there will be a population and economic collapse fairly soon, and their economy is predicated on scammy lies like ghost cities; people said this was either fake or a thing of the past, but just look at the recent and months-long ongoing flare-up with Chinese real estate firm Evergrande. China's GDP per capita remains literally Africa-tier, and they're barreling into an aging population demographic trap that will put them on an politico-socio-economic death spiral while they're still Africa-poor (don't let a couple of Tier 1 Chinese cities fool you, most chinks don't live like that).

Russia has their own low-fertility demographic issue, but they lack the kind of economic crisis you see in the West or China. There may be Western sanctions, but I am not convinced those actually matter. Globalization and free trade is relatively new. Russia only acceded to the WTO in 2012, if you can believe it. They got by just fine without globalization and full access to international finance during the whole Soviet era, and they will probably continue to do fine with parallel systems/economies and bilateralism with the likes of China. The sanctions will become especially meaningless if/when Russia and China establish oriental alternatives to the USD, IMF, WB, and so on. Already seeing that to a limited extent with Sino-Russian initiatives to create a gold standard currency of international trade as a USD Petrodollar alternative, as well as the Belt & Road shit from China.

Russia has no Western-style offshoring of everything other than finance/insurance/real estate, or overreliance on big pharma or surveillance capitalist big tech. No trying to run some kind of circlejerk ads-based meme economy, or waiting to find out whether the Western diversity crisis will end up like post-Apartheid South Africa or Brazil; Russia has 'contiguous imperial'-type diversity, but not of the same neocolonial sort where they're flying in millions of oogaboogas from the DR Congo or Pajeetistan. No China-style real estate mega Ponzi scheme, civ-killing cultural artifacts of a one-child policy, or a crisis that gradually rising incomes are pricing their own labour force out of the offshoring niche that their economy is based on. Russia's fertility crisis is bad, but it's one of the less-pressing issues on the list IMO, in the sense that, especially in an authoritarian state, there are measures that can be taken to bump fertility back up again with various incentivization or coercion programs once shit gets really serious; not ideal for gov't to be forcing birth rates up, but probably better than the case of South Korea, which will almost certainly lose to Best Korea in the long run due to SK having pretty well the most decadent, worst sub-replacement fertility rate in the world.

As a weird little bonus, if the climate hysteria turns out to be real, then northerly countries like Russia and Canada actually stand to benefit, due to climate change making the north more habitable, as equatorcucks get fucked over by desertification and the like. So a further possible boon for Russia in the long run, that is to the detriment of the USA and China.

I'm not even a particular Russiaboo, but within the USA/China/Russia global triumvirate, I would probably expect Russia to be best positioned moving forward into the long run. Not to say everything is peachy in Putinland, but they might have the least-worst prospects.
 
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mr.moon1488 said:
While on the subject, just going to point out that there's a reason why all of the protests you're seeing in Russia right now are comprised mainly of women between the ages of 20-40
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I feel like I've been unfairly harsh on Putin now. Maybe Russia needs some space to do their thing. They have some solid policies. Assmad protesting thots should be re-arrested and thrown into labor camps so they can learn the value of real work.
 
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W00K #17 said:
He's a good man. He's straightforward and trustworthy.

Dubya looked in his eyes, and Putin has a soul.



"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country."
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I’m not sure Dubya is really a person to trust on judgements of character.

I’m really interested in seeing how fast the Russian offensive actually was once this is all over.
 
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