Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Granate37]

Are these Russians?

All of them are except the pic with half a dozen prisoners standing side by side, those are Ukrainian soldiers.

 

[Yaks]

Ask, and ye shall receive.

Spoiler: NSFL

Spoiler: Seriously, are you sure you want to see this shit?

Spoiler: Last chance to save your eyeballs

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This is terrible. Thank you for your contribution.
Honestly the last one isn't incorrect though.

 

[SCSI]

Another shot of the explosions near Kiev before sunrise.

Aftermath of a Tochka-U strike on Millerovo airbase. Sun's up, so this either just happened, or happened last afternoon.

More stills of the aftermath of the Ukrainian SU-27 that crashed on Kiev overnight. Landed on someone's house apparently. As always, click to make big.

 

[Drain Todger]

This is terrible. Thank you for your contribution.
Honestly the last one isn't incorrect though.

Pretty accurate summary of events, actually.

 

[draggs]

As much as they dunk on each other Ukrainians and Russians are the same people. If you speak one language not only can you understand the other, you can communicate too, which is really unusual. It's hard to do war crimes on folks that are just like you. Not that it can't or won't happen, just that I'm not surprised they're being careful with civilians.

The people in charge of Ukraine, that's another issue entirely.

Russians have always been more interested in the "we're all brothers just variations on a super slavic theme" because Great Russians are always the big brother and Byelorussians and Ukrainians are always the little brothers in this grand fraternity of squatters

This fraternal feeling is real but mileage varies

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Ask, and ye shall receive.

Spoiler: NSFL

Spoiler: Seriously, are you sure you want to see this shit?

Spoiler: Last chance to save your eyeballs

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Saved, sending this to a friend.

 

[borsabil]

War's barely 24 hours old, so we'll see if the pattern continues, but the Russians seem to have gotten a mixture of deep pushes in the South and a lot more than they bargained for everywhere else, and they took the night off to clear their own fog of war.

Wut? They're just about to enter Kiev.....in a day. Not too shabby. If they take the capital then the war is probably over. All the rich Jews will flee the country and that will be that.

As much as they dunk on each other Ukrainians and Russians are the same people. If you speak one language not only can you understand the other, you can communicate too, which is really unusual. It's hard to do war crimes on folks that are just like you. Not that it can't or won't happen, just that I'm not surprised they're being careful with civilians.

The people in charge of Ukraine, that's another issue entirely.

Half of Ukraine are Russians, which is why all the talk of geurilla warfare and Afghanistan part deux is retarded. Millions of people in that country are deliriously happy that Ivan is driving his tanks towards Kiev.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Also, notice the distinct lack of body armor.

Shit, compare what these guys, guys invading another country in the first/second wave, have for gear.

Now look at Specialist Shenequa and PFC Rottencrotch with Financial Affairs and JAG and what they have for gear.

Body armor, NVG's, GPS.

Either Putin is only sending in the B Teams of the B-Teams, or they rely more on vehicles than we thought, to the point, I think that more than a few of the convoys have gotten lost.

I wonder what their comms are like. JV squad or not somebody has got to be reading their mail.

 

[Johnny Salami]

To everyone who is worried or knows some retard who is worried about the draft, let us look at it.

First of all, this is what must be reached for a draft to occur.

• Congress and the president authorize a draft: The president claims a crisis has occurred which requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply. Congress passes and the president signs legislation which revises the Military Selective Service Act to initiate a draft for military manpower.
• The lottery: A lottery based on birthdays determines the order in which registered men are called up by Selective Service. The first to be called, in a sequence determined by the lottery, will be men whose 20th birthday falls during the calendar year the induction takes place, followed, if needed, by those aged 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 19 and 18 year olds (in that order).
• All parts of the Selective Service System are activated: The agency activates and orders its state directors and Reserve Force officers to report for duty.
• Physical, mental and moral evaluation of registrants: Registrants with low lottery numbers receive examination orders and are ordered to report for a physical, mental, and moral evaluation at a military entrance processing station (MEPS) to determine whether they are fit for military service. Once he is notified of the results of the evaluation, a registrant will be given 10 days to file a claim for exemption, postponement, or deferment.
• Local and appeal boards activated and induction notices sent: Local and appeal boards will begin processing registrant claims/appeals. Those who passed the military evaluation will receive induction orders. An inductee will have 10 days to report to a local MEPS for induction.
• First draftees are inducted: According to current plans, Selective Service must deliver the first inductees to the military within 193 days from the onset of a crisis.

That first part I bolded is the death sentence.

The part in red is the next death sentence.

Well, let's look at 2019 recruitment (Mind you, according to Army Times and Military dot Com, the numbers went to shit last year)
Regular Army (RA): 68,185 (100% of 68,000 goal)
Army Reserve (AR): 15,304 (98% of 15,600 goal)
Special Operations Recruiting Battalion: 6083 (96% of 6363 goal)
Warrant Officers: 1,888 (140% of 1,347 goal)
Medical Mission: 2021 (106.59% of 1896goal)
Chaplains: 356 (108% of 330 goal)

Well, that puts a lie to the red part.

BUT, let's get into the real meat of things. The honest shit. You might not want to hear this, and neither is the hysterical retard who you're trying to reassure won't be drafted because they have a Groot Funco pop lodged in their ass.

THE MILITARY DOESN'T WANT CONSCRIPTS!

Conscripts are stupid, lazy, unmotivated, hard to train, and incompetent.

This isn't the King James time. Hell, it isn't even The 'Nam with McNamara's Retards.

The modern military is complex as shit, and it's easier than fuck to get thrown out. No longer is it "Hand the retard the rifle and put him on the line." It hasn't been for 40 fucking years.

Infantry and other line slime jobs are complex as fuck, and as much as the line slime faggots like to fuck with REMFs, the critical REMF jobs require dedication, skill, training, motivation, and most of all, you have to work your ass off, even in peace time when the infantry is picking up cigarettes and the tankers are jerking off to loli porn.

You need the guy next to you to WANT to be there, to know, at least in the back of his head, that he volunteered for this shit.

There's a SHITLOAD of training that goes on beyond SHARP and DIE briefings. You need people who will pay attention, who WANT to know this shit, who are motivated to learn it and learn it well.

A conscript is a retard who is trying to escape as soon as he can.

You can't trust him.

Nobody in modern military WANTS a draft, because there's enough retards in the service and we can't ask the crayon eating ballsweat huffing Marines to take all of them.

It would be cheaper to offer better signup bonuses then to start the draft, and less political suicide.

Finally, the real problem isn't the draft.

It's how much of military operations have been turned over to civilians who are not going to go any where near a real war.

But no, neither you nor that retard screeching on Tik Tok while dancing with a dragon dildo shoved in their ass are getting drafted.

You aren't worth the trouble.

It'll draft the zoomers and order them to March off a cliff. wig

In all honesty, Draft won't happen. The military kicked out a few unvaxxed that they coups call back in exchange for no punishment and benefits returned. Then there's the inactive ready Reserve, people out within 4 years that can still be called into service.

And while the retention rate has gone down (from my friend who's still in the Marines) there is definitely a morale problem; some brass is saying from the afghan withdrawal but my people tell me it's Bidens bullshit and diversity crap. And I trust JEWs before officers and SNCOs.

The worst case for a draft are educated people with exceptional skills that the military might need. They won't be Frontline people and will probably be given an 04 rank to compensate as well as GI benefits

Or course, at this point America ain't worth fighting for. And I'm someone several branches called after college to get me comisioned

 

[LillWeeb]

It's something that the western powers seem to forget that they're all Slavs at the end, the divide and conquer tactic won't work as easily.

i think they way they are just ignoring the civies for the most part, is due they plan to integrate the land into Russia especially the ethnic Russian parts. they don't want to antagonize the population .Its why they are not going all lighting war death heads SS squads and carpet bombing

 

[Scale Smerch]

Watching the live cams of Kiev while doing some late-night work is eerily fascinating. Here you are, air sirens going off intermittently with missile attacks in the distance, Russian tanks an hour's drive away, and everyone is just going about their day as normal; it's incredibly surreal.

Seeing this live starts to give you a very good idea of the feeling and emotion behind those WW2 accounts where French or Russian civvies walked out the store to suddenly find German troops rushing along the main drag.

Not an experience I'd ever thought I'd personally witness, even if half a world removed.

 

[redeyejedi]

>These are Russians! Muscovites in Gostomel!
Ukrainian pilot shocked by an unexpected meeting

Large explosion near the Antonovsky Bridge, Kherson

 

[Toothpaste]

More Ukrainians were captured overnight.

 

[mr.moon1488]

It kinda shows something interesting to me.

It wasn't that long ago that he would have been just run over and everyone would have shrugged and gone on with their day. You saw that with both invasions of Iraq. You got in the way of the military vehicles, they just shot you and moved on if they thought you might have a satchel charge, ran you over and laughed about it if they didn't.

Now, everyone thinks they're going to be Tiamen Square (or whatever the fuck it was spelled) so they go out there and dance around for a photo-op thinking they won't get run over.

And for the most part, they're right. Even the Russian army isn't running them over, when not too long ago even his neighbors would have pointed and laughed at him.

Shows how attitudes about military operations have changed.

I've said similar in the past, but people really do deep down understand that they're slaves to shartmartcracy. The image of doing something right is far more important to a person who has been indoctrinated into shartmartcracy than the act of actually doing what is right. To them, man is God, and he must be obeyed. What is life compared to a few thousand upboats on twatter? This sort of behavior is why actual Christians for centuries did not consider charity done in the public eye to actually be charity.

 

[Naidyonov]

Chinese gay ops making the stream brighter and brighter

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

I wonder what their comms are like. JV squad or not somebody has got to be reading their mail.

Let's flood them with Ram Ranch.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

More booms

Getting closer

I can feel it

Vodka break is over

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Another shot of the explosions near Kiev before sunrise.

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Aftermath of a Tochka-U strike on Millerovo airbase. Sun's up, so this either just happened, or happened last afternoon.

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More stills of the aftermath of the Ukrainian SU-27 that crashed on Kiev overnight. Landed on someone's house apparently. As always, click to make big.

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Mother of fuck, that had to be an ammo dump, artillery would have been more broken up, and anything else wouldn't have produced that magnitude of a secondary.

 

[Thistle]

Fighting in the streets earlier, road traffic goes "NOPE". Location not given.

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Wreckage from a battle outside Kharkov from this morning. Thread claims it may have been from a Tochka-U strike.

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Protestors in St. Petersburg. 250 arrests so far and counting.

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Klara is acktchually Russian.

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ah yes, girls und panzer.

 

[Jewthulhu]

Also, notice the distinct lack of body armor.

Shit, compare what these guys, guys invading another country in the first/second wave, have for gear.

Now look at Specialist Shenequa and PFC Rottencrotch with Financial Affairs and JAG and what they have for gear.

Body armor, NVG's, GPS.

Either Putin is only sending in the B Teams of the B-Teams, or they rely more on vehicles than we thought, to the point, I think that more than a few of the convoys have gotten lost.

I've mostly seen body armor and the new helmets on the Russians in the pictures and videos I've seen. You'd think with all the money they spent on ratnik they'd want to use that shit, even for their B-teams.

It is eye-opening how far behind our "near-peer" rivals are though. It's why I think a lot of politisperg's optimism that US would lose a war against China/Russia is misplaced.