Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Uber driver reviewer]

Funny thing is these are usually the same people that previously denied the Holodomor to avoid making communism look bad.

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[mario if smoke weed]

To everyone who is worried or knows some retard who is worried about the draft, let us look at it.

First of all, this is what must be reached for a draft to occur.

• Congress and the president authorize a draft: The president claims a crisis has occurred which requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply. Congress passes and the president signs legislation which revises the Military Selective Service Act to initiate a draft for military manpower.
• The lottery: A lottery based on birthdays determines the order in which registered men are called up by Selective Service. The first to be called, in a sequence determined by the lottery, will be men whose 20th birthday falls during the calendar year the induction takes place, followed, if needed, by those aged 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 19 and 18 year olds (in that order).
• All parts of the Selective Service System are activated: The agency activates and orders its state directors and Reserve Force officers to report for duty.
• Physical, mental and moral evaluation of registrants: Registrants with low lottery numbers receive examination orders and are ordered to report for a physical, mental, and moral evaluation at a military entrance processing station (MEPS) to determine whether they are fit for military service. Once he is notified of the results of the evaluation, a registrant will be given 10 days to file a claim for exemption, postponement, or deferment.
• Local and appeal boards activated and induction notices sent: Local and appeal boards will begin processing registrant claims/appeals. Those who passed the military evaluation will receive induction orders. An inductee will have 10 days to report to a local MEPS for induction.
• First draftees are inducted: According to current plans, Selective Service must deliver the first inductees to the military within 193 days from the onset of a crisis.

That first part I bolded is the death sentence.

The part in red is the next death sentence.

Well, let's look at 2019 recruitment (Mind you, according to Army Times and Military dot Com, the numbers went to shit last year)
Regular Army (RA): 68,185 (100% of 68,000 goal)
Army Reserve (AR): 15,304 (98% of 15,600 goal)
Special Operations Recruiting Battalion: 6083 (96% of 6363 goal)
Warrant Officers: 1,888 (140% of 1,347 goal)
Medical Mission: 2021 (106.59% of 1896goal)
Chaplains: 356 (108% of 330 goal)

Well, that puts a lie to the red part.

BUT, let's get into the real meat of things. The honest shit. You might not want to hear this, and neither is the hysterical retard who you're trying to reassure won't be drafted because they have a Groot Funco pop lodged in their ass.

THE MILITARY DOESN'T WANT CONSCRIPTS!

Conscripts are stupid, lazy, unmotivated, hard to train, and incompetent.

This isn't the King James time. Hell, it isn't even The 'Nam with McNamara's Retards.

The modern military is complex as shit, and it's easier than fuck to get thrown out. No longer is it "Hand the retard the rifle and put him on the line." It hasn't been for 40 fucking years.

Infantry and other line slime jobs are complex as fuck, and as much as the line slime faggots like to fuck with REMFs, the critical REMF jobs require dedication, skill, training, motivation, and most of all, you have to work your ass off, even in peace time when the infantry is picking up cigarettes and the tankers are jerking off to loli porn.

You need the guy next to you to WANT to be there, to know, at least in the back of his head, that he volunteered for this shit.

There's a SHITLOAD of training that goes on beyond SHARP and DIE briefings. You need people who will pay attention, who WANT to know this shit, who are motivated to learn it and learn it well.

A conscript is a retard who is trying to escape as soon as he can.

You can't trust him.

Nobody in modern military WANTS a draft, because there's enough retards in the service and we can't ask the crayon eating ballsweat huffing Marines to take all of them.

It would be cheaper to offer better signup bonuses then to start the draft, and less political suicide.

Finally, the real problem isn't the draft.

It's how much of military operations have been turned over to civilians who are not going to go any where near a real war.

But no, neither you nor that retard screeching on Tik Tok while dancing with a dragon dildo shoved in their ass are getting drafted.

You aren't worth the trouble.

This.

The average Joe now is a lot less fit than the average Joe during the Vietnam War. There's also a lot more mentally unstable young men who believe in critical race theory, transgenderism, and consoomerism. Drafting most of these guys would be a suicide move, and the military should know it by now.. They tend to snoop around, after all.

It helps to hear it so thanks man

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

gunfire on unwatchable Kiev livestream.. any good alternatives?

Ukraine Invasion Multistream

PoastTV, an ActivityPub-federated video streaming platform built on PeerTube using P2P directly in your web browser.

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No cringe commentary, its about to go unattended for the night though. Will remain with the sound on the Maidan camera which has seen some explosions, air sirens and distant gunfire tonight.

 

[Kane Lives]

It is eye-opening how far behind our "near-peer" rivals are though. It's why I think a lot of politisperg's optimism that US would lose a war against China/Russia is misplaced.

I view those opinions as valid, with a very big caveat: China/Russia can only win on their home turf or adjacent. They have just enough parity in equipment and manpower that any American attempt to invade or fuck around in their homelands is going to be met with a very bloody nose. But that same power cannot be projected and thus they will remain a regional power as long as the American monopoly on power projection holds.

 

[SCSI]

More reinforcements crossing through Gomiel, Belarus headed into Ukraine.

Probably posted already, but I don't care, it's an interesting video and I remember someone was wishing to see tanks early this morning. T-72B3s headed towards Akhtyrsk, Sumy.

Random comparison side-by-side photo a Twitter rando made.

Found another open Telegram channel local to the region (in Russian) -- Colonel Cassad. Also has a Livejournal (yes, I'm serious -- LJ lives on in the Russian speaking community). He has a news summary post up, seems to plausibly line up with all the vids and maps people have been posting the past 24 hours.

English translation:

1. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation successfully develop an offensive in the south by taking part of the Kherson region, including Kakhovka, Genichesk and taking control of the North-Crimea Canal. Choined Truck at Kherson. Aksenov said that soon water will be served in the Crimea.
2. In the north, Putivl is taken. The grouping of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation moves to Kiev. More than 30 helicopters attacked the Gostamel airfield (lost 2 helicopters), Ukraine confirms the promotion of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the Kiev and Zhytomyr regions. Russian aviation flies over Kiev. Documents harness in the SBU.
3. Under Kharkov there are heavy battles on the bypass road - on both sides of losses in humans and techniques. In the city urge to hide in bomb shelter. Stopped metro. Feed An-25 VSU. Volchansk and a bunch of different settlements are taken.
4. In LDNR on a number of sites there is promotion - a few villages are released, the Seversky Donets is forced, there is an offensive on the wave. In the Arms of Large Losses. LDNR also has the dead military and civilian.
5. Not yet confirmed messages about the landing in Odessa, the take sum and situation in the Gostamel area. After lunch, the second wave of arsductor rolled. The center of the 72nd IPSO destroyed, as well as the headquarters of GUR MOU in Kiev.
6. The EU and NATO will introduce various sanctions, but they will not fight for Ukraine. Bosphorus will also not close. In general, approximately as with Ashraf Ghani. It is worth noting that the Ukrainian Su-27 drew in Romania. More than 500 Ukrainian border guards and military have already doubled into Russia.
7. HUU damaged two Russian vessels in the Sea of Azov. 1 Sailor wounded. Courts continued to move. Kerch Bridge and Kerch Strait continue to work.

In general, the offensive is evolving successfully and in the coming hours of the control area over the territory of Ukraine will change significantly.

Original Russian:

1. ВС РФ успешно развивают наступление на юге, заняв часть Херсонской области, включая Каховку, Геническ и взяв под контроль Северо-Крымский канал. Выброшен десант у Херсона. Аксенов заявил, что скоро подадут воду в Крым.
2. На севере взят Путивль. Группировка ВС РФ продвигается к Киеву. Более 30 вертолетов атаковали аэродром Гостамель (потеряны 2 вертолета), Украина подтверждает продвижение ВС РФ в киевской и житомирской областях. Над Киевом летает российская авиация. В СБУ жгут документы.
3. Под Харьковом идут тяжелые бои на объездной дороге - с обеих сторон потери в людях и технике. В городе призывают прятаться в бомбоубежищах. Остановлено метро. Сбут Ан-25 ВСУ. Взят Волчанск и куча различных поселков.
4. В ЛДНР на ряде участков есть продвижение - освобождено несколько поселков, форсирован Северский Донец, идет наступление на Волноваху. У ВСУ большие потери. У ЛДНР так же есть погибшие военные и гражданские.
5. Пока не подтверждены сообщения о десанте в Одессе, взятии Сум и ситуации в районе Гостамеля. После обеда покатилась вторая волна авиадуаров. Уничтожен центр 72-го ИПСО, а также штаб-квартира ГУР МОУ в Киеве.
6. ЕС и НАТО введут различные санкции, но воевать за Украину не будут. Босфор также не будут закрывать. В общем, примерно как с Ашрафом Гани. Стоит отметить, что украинский Су-27 удрал в Румынию. На территорию Россию уже удрало более 500 украинских пограничников и военных.
7. ВСУ повредили в Азовском море два российских судна. 1 моряк ранен. Суда продолжили движение. Керченский мост и Керченский пролив продолжают работу.

В целом, наступление развивается успешно и в ближайшие часы зоны контроля над территорией Украины существенно изменятся.

Also came across this Telegram channel, which has a pretty close up clip of Russian armor rolling by. Have not figured out how to rip shit off this cancerous shitapp yet, so here's a direct link.

Рыбарь

🇷🇺🇺🇦 В н.п. Козацкое Херсонской области идёт бой. Колонна ВС РФ выстраивается на подступах. #Россия #Украина @rybar

t.me

In N.P. Kozatska Kherson region is fighting. The column of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is built on the approaches.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Man you gotta point but how do I break it to you: Serbian and Croatian are literally the same language just spelled out with two different alphabets.

And you know how that worked out.

These guys aren't Serbs/Croats, they're vodka snow niggers

 

[borsabil]

They have white children now and need to try harder for their sake.

Some of them look pretty fucking white, which makes me doubt myself. Is it possible for a white man to be a goat raping boy loving retard? Then I look around my own country in current year and yes of course.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Aftermath of a battle
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Hard to speculate with any degree of certainty, but I'd guess the Russians came over the bridge with something other than a tank in the lead, got derped by Ukranians holed up at the gas station, then the Russians recovered and pushed through.

 

[Myles the Potatophile]

And now they’re suddenly against Russia. They aren’t very consistent.

It’s like when they claimed to care about Palestine.

They'd swallow Lenin's semen any day, but Russia isn't commie anymore so their palette changed.

 

[Yaks]

Where are the Russian tanks relative to that part of Kiev?

I drew a little map. Marked it in the pink the direction of the camera.

All of the current fighting is in the direction the camera itself is pointing.
There's also this stream for more angles if you want it.

 

[Jewthulhu]

The way I see, right now it's who wants the Win more and China and Russia want it way way more.

Pretty sure the Ukrainians want to win this war more than the average Russian infantryman I guess it's over Russiabros...

 

[MugolEx]

Russian column got fugged near Kyiv.

Location are the top left three fire icons.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Pretty sure the Ukrainians want to win this war more than the average Russian infantryman I guess it's over Russiabros...

We've already had reports of Ukraine mayors and people in Ukraine's government giving info to the Russians, how sure are you of that?

Which goes back to what I said about judas in the office.

 

[HumanHive]

Russian column got fugged near Kyiv.
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Location are the top left three fire icons.
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Yeah, I'm not digging the Russian's lack of concern for casualties. This is the most blind advance I've ever seen. It's fast, sure, but is it smart? No.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I drew a little map. Marked it in the pink the direction of the camera.
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All of the current fighting is in the direction the camera itself is pointing.
There's also this stream for more angles if you want it.

You think they'll roll in within the next few hours?

 

[Strix454]

Yeah I think it's curious how we're still watching live streams and cell phone videos of all this 24 hours in. And Ukraine apparently still has electricity and comms in spite of some maps I've seen of power plants portrayed as strike zones. I can only assume this is intentional.

Most of the accounts of the fighting and what is being targeted seem highly inaccurate. The stuff from social media and streaming is the most interesting. Anything said by a government or the mainstream media seems to be totally useless.
Most of the media are stuck in the past as far as now to cover a war. They are still convinced that they way you do it is to go to the place and lock yourself in a hotel room.

 

[Kay's Boiled Beef]

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

Several hours late, but before I forget again; the personnel meeting (military base life) I heard about this morning was... weird.

Barely half a fuck given about the actual shit popping off in Slavland and some serious talk that basically amounted to "lol the chinks r cummin, here's what they look like. get ready to deal with em". Kind of hard to take that kind of thing as seriously as it should be when the brass got a chinky Airman to put on a chinky little commie hat and jacket. No, I'm not making that up.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Man you gotta point but how do I break it to you: Serbian and Croatian are literally the same language just spelled out with two different alphabets.

And you know how that worked out.

Two different alphabets in that region generally means two different religions. Why do you think the Poles don't use Cyrillic? Because they like having 6 million diacritical marks?

Also, people who constantly talk about brotherhood make me skeptical about them having actual brothers.

 

[Granate37]

Aftermath of a battle

Would have been nice if we could have seen the right side of the turret. It could be a Ukrainian t-64BV