Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Simpadoo]

Saltpeter? What year is this? Are they going to target the guano islands next?

Its also an ingredient for gunpowder.

 

[Richardface]

To be honest, no. It's Russian clay. It's been Russian since the ninth century. Recently someone decided they're a unique nation. They aren't.

In that case the war is going adequately, some people are in need of some honest feedback and opportunities to grow but things are generally progressing positively

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

Another video on these guys.

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There already are plenty of Chechens in Ukraine fighting for the Russians. Chechens are what Cossacks once used to be. Deadly war dogs that can be unleashed on your enemies without having to worry about casualties.

But like all dogs, if don't treat them right, they might just bite you.

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During the wars in Afghanistan we went out of our fucking way to protect civilians and limit collateral damage. If there was a way to tie the hands of our soldiers and Marines so they couldn't do what needed to be done, we did it. For all the reeeeeeeing from bleeding hearts, the western coalitions in both nations treated the Iraqis and Afghanis with kid gloves.

And now both countries are ruled by regimes that still don't like us.

Meanwhile the Russians bombed and shelled Chechnya into the fucking ground. They went and shot any man with a beard who wasn't enthusiastically waving a Russian flag hard enough. They made Grozny look like Detroit; they specifically developed armored tactics for urban combat that revolved around shooting anything that even looked remotely like a Muslim with every gun, from AAA to artillery pieces, that they saw. They raw-dogged Chechnya into submission.

And now they have over 10,000 Chechens chomping at the bit to go fuck up some Ukrainians. I'll give it to the Russians, they certainly know how to win the respect of the people they bomb into the neolithic era.

 

[Male Idiot]

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Supposedly a Russian Su-30 in Milerovo airbase.

Could be the camera focus, but looks shooped.

That said, Zelensky is a fool. You don't corner a hungry, rabid bear.

USA can never be trusted. Ukraine should recalled 56.

This ties into the point I will make. Do they need to die as partisans? Poland and Hungary are still here. To quote skinhead bros, endure.
You don't want Chechens and ruskies to be loosed on you.
Fighting a fight you got 20% chance of winning is honorable. Fighting with 0% is just short sighted.

I feel sorry for the citizens caught in this shit.

Additional info: Hungarian border is closed by Ukraine to prevent conscriptable men from fleeing.

Sometimes you just got to cut your losses and live to declare independence when your grandkids go to school.

Public sentiment is blaming Murrica. They fooled the Ukraine with lies and stir shit up abroad like in durka land.

Its easy to whip the poison ivy with someone else's dick.

 

[Simpadoo]

That Ukranian number is an absolute fucking lie and the number is in the thousands

It will be when the Russians are done reporting the history of this conflict.

 

[Stoneheart]

The Chinese are horrible at amphibious. It will not be an expected incursion. More than likely airborne.

that will fail in minutes. Paradrop would mean death by small arms and Helicopter assault from Mainland China is a hell of a Trip.

 

[tyko]

I unironically root for Ukrainoos. Military defeat/stalemate would be beneficial for Russians in the long run.

I root against globohomo.
A russian defeat would accelerate clown world take over.

 

[Coccxys]

They want civie casualties so fucking bad... Epic faggots.

It's going to be a bloodbath if they mobilise the civilian population to make Russia grind out every mile of gain because Russia will have no problem with grinding out every mile against untrained civilians with basic arms.

Somewhere along the line everyone seems to have forgotten just how brutal war is. These walking into the middle east making sure to avoid civilian or our own casualties while their army scatter are not typical warfare and the history of Russian involvement in war especially gets meat grindery fast with Russia just having more to feed to the grinder so winning.

 

[Strix454]

...ok but how does Putin intend to permanently keep whatever he supposedly wants?


If he wants just the eastern half of the Ukraine, does he intend to keep an occupying force there and either annex that territory outright or form an Eastern Ukrainian state with its own leader? If so, he's going to have to keep troops there to prop up the new state.

This is what I don't get. What's the long-term strategy here? Do the Russians really intend to essentially occupy all of or part of the Ukraine for the next decade or two?

The Eastern half of Ukraine can take care of itself. The population there is generally loyal to the Russian government and will not cause them any problems. They already have
their own leadership (such as it is). I would guess that they will go with model of nominal independence but close alliance for the breakaway republics from Ukraine.

Nobody gets what the Russians intentions are or what the plan is. Territorially, they already had everything they wanted from Ukraine before the fighting started. They
can replace the government, but it will be an unpopular government and unstable. They will also be stuck paying Ukraine's bills.

They could also be really ambitious and try to annex the whole of Ukraine. But that seems too ambitious.

The best theory I've seen is that Ukraine is being taught a lesson along the same lines that Georgia was taught a lesson for flirting with NATO and the EU in 2008.
That its a form of shock therapy to show the people who run Ukraine the reality of their situation.

But its only theory. We will only really know what they intend probably after they take the capital.

 

[DumbDude42]

...ok but how does Putin intend to permanently keep whatever he supposedly wants?

If he wants to get rid of Zelensky, what's to stop his successor from getting ousted immediately? Do the Russians intend to re-install or replace any puppet they put in place?

If he wants just the eastern half of the Ukraine, does he intend to keep an occupying force there and either annex that territory outright or form an Eastern Ukrainian state with its own leader? If so, he's going to have to keep troops there to prop up the new state.

This is what I don't get. What's the long-term strategy here? Do the Russians really intend to essentially occupy all of or part of the Ukraine for the next decade or two?

putin has stated he intends to "demilitarize" and "denazify" ukraine

demilitarisation is pretty straightforward: disband the armed forces and allow no replacements to be formed.
"denazification" is more complicated, it's what the allied occupation powers did in germany post ww2. basically it means large scale persecution of political enemies using show trials carried out by political tribunals created solely for this purpose.

so basically, putin intends to purge the entirety of ukraines ruling class and replace them with his own lackeys.

 

[Manly_Brony]

So how is the war going? I just woke up.

Putiman is deploying his Chechen Uruk-hai in Kyiv, expect suppressing fires of peace and such. All future footage will have annoying Muslims shouting God is great from now on. Zelensky didn't pull an Ashraf Ghani yet, he has more balls than brains. Chernobyl is under new management.

 

[Richardface]

During the wars in Afghanistan we went out of our fucking way to protect civilians and limit collateral damage. If there was a way to tie the hands of our soldiers and Marines so they couldn't do what needed to be done, we did it. For all the reeeeeeeing from bleeding hearts, the western coalitions in both nations treated the Iraqis and Afghanis with kid gloves.

And now both countries are ruled by regimes that still don't like us.

Meanwhile the Russians bombed and shelled Chechnya into the fucking ground. They went and shot any man with a beard who wasn't enthusiastically waving a Russian flag hard enough. They made Grozny look like Detroit; they specifically developed armored tactics for urban combat that revolved around shooting anything that even looked remotely like a Muslim with every gun, from AAA to artillery pieces, that they saw. They raw-dogged Chechnya into submission.

And now they have over 10,000 Chechens chomping at the bit to go fuck up some Ukrainians. I'll give it to the Russians, they certainly know how to win the respect of the people they bomb into the neolithic era.

Game know game

 

[Simpadoo]

that will fail in minutes. Paradrop would mean death by small arms and Helicopter assault from Mainland China is a hell of a Trip.

I meant they will missile the shit out of them and swarm with drones. If they try to invade through the beach, they will mostly die unless they destroy the resistance beforehand.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

>Always portray Putin as some alpha male in these gay ass pictures apparently making fun of him
Bros.....Do the fujos want to fuck Putin?

You haven't seen anything yet.

There's an Isekai manga about Putin being reincarnated in a fantasy universe, where he runs around shirtless and ripped like Schwarzenegger during his early years and beats up and mounts dragons and other fantasy animals.

It's as absurdly stupid as it sounds. It's been running monthly for 4 years now.

The Ride-On King.

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[Stoneheart]

Zelensky didn't pull an Ashraf Ghani yet, he has more balls than brains.

Well we dont know who runs the show right now. maybe he is not able to leave because there are guys with guns standing on the other side of the room...

 

[Getting tard comed]

...ok but how does Putin intend to permanently keep whatever he supposedly wants?

By any means necessary apparently.

If he wants to get rid of Zelensky, what's to stop his successor from getting ousted immediately? Do the Russians intend to re-install or replace any puppet they put in place?

Who is going to oust his successor? Ukrainians? They just got beat. The EU or Soros? Again just got beat and don't have an army to enforce anything. It's been fine in Georgia since 2008.

If he wants just the eastern half of the Ukraine, does he intend to keep an occupying force there and either annex that territory outright or form an Eastern Ukrainian state with its own leader? If so, he's going to have to keep troops there to prop up the new state.

The Eastern half of Ukraine wants to be apart of Russia since they are mostly Russian themselves. No occupying force necessary. Before this began he recognized two separate Republics and then when the shelling didn't stop he sent in the military to stop this. Putin has put out his objectives publicly. To dismantle the "fraudulant goverment". That's the goal.

This is what I don't get. What's the long-term strategy here? Do the Russians really intend to essentially occupy all of or part of the Ukraine for the next decade or two?

They won't need to. They did not Occupy Georgia. They are not occupying Kazakhstan. I don't see them occupying Ukraine. Generally speaking after the people/type of people who run the West get their but kicked and embarrassed they go some place else. If they aren't in Ukraine, Russia has no interest in Ukraine and Uktaine gets to do w/e they want except join NATO.

 

[Toothpaste]

Another Ukrainian trying to invoke the "tank-man" and failing.

 

[Muppetstudios]

I think not being associated with Manchester United is less embarrassing for Putin

 

[Coccxys]

The Eastern half of Ukraine can take care of itself. The population there is generally loyal to the Russian government and will not cause them any problems. They already have
their own leadership (such as it is). I would guess that they will go with model of nominal independence but close alliance for the breakaway republics from Ukraine.

Nobody gets what the Russians intentions are or what the plan is. Territorially, they already had everything they wanted from Ukraine before the fighting started. They
can replace the government, but it will be an unpopular government and unstable. They will also be stuck paying Ukraine's bills.

They could also be really ambitious and try to annex the whole of Ukraine. But that seems too ambitious.

The best theory I've seen is that Ukraine is being taught a lesson along the same lines that Georgia was taught a lesson for flirting with NATO and the EU in 2008.
That its a form of shock therapy to show the people who run Ukraine the reality of their situation.

But its only theory. We will only really know what they intend probably after they take the capital.

I'm thinking this will end in Russia taking and keeping what they want (east and southern costal regions) while leaving the rest with zero infrastructure before discarding it to its fate. They get the bit that wants to be with them and the bit that doesn't won't be a threat or in a position to join NATO for a hell of a long time along with the west pissing away millions in aid to rebuild them.

 

[tulskij_tochnyj]

I root against globohomo.
A russian defeat would accelerate clown world take over.

Russia is no different than the West in that regard (just poorer). We will have ESG, social credit system and multiculti in no time. Churkas are being imported by hundreds of thousands (and are allowed to terrorize natives), banks and services are already starting to track carbon footprint of our purchases, future digital ruble will have spending (((incentives))). But hey, you can't wave LGBT flag, omg it's so based!