Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Im sure someone already posted this but I'm not checking over 600 threads. I just want to make sure more people see this.
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Kerwin White said:
Christ, this is a lot of pages. I can't keep up with anything. My impression earlier was that Russia were curbstomping them, but apparently maybe not so much now? Fog of war is real.
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There was quite some rapid advances done yesterday, which makes sense given that it was something of a surprise attack. Russian forces covered ground until they reached the major urban centres in their respective areas, and that's when the movement ground to a far slower pace.

Biggest action today was northwest of Kiev, where the Russians and Ukes had a tug-of-war over Gostomel airport, which the Russians seem to have won by all accounts; around Kherson, where the Russians took the south bank and started moving across the river towards Antonivka in the evening; and in the Sumy region, where it seems Russian forces have kinda skirted around Sumy city itself and were trekking across open country to the west.

In the other sectors it's mostly bombings and tit-for-tat exchanges in and around towns and cities. Kharkov is the most dramatic example, the Russians have surrounded it and have been bombarding it on and off all day.

My theory is that Putin is backing down a bit to start negotiations and force the Ukrainian govt to bend the knee. This was either his plan to begin with, or the conflict isn't going quite well as well as he wanted.
 
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Certified_Autist said:
So everyone on reddit and on social media is saying they support Ukraine, and that Putin is evil and greedy and blah blah blah. And I am not going to say that Putin is a humane or moral leader, I'm no Russophile. If I'm being honest though, I'm having trouble seeing the Russians as the "bad guys" in this situation.

Here's an analogy: Imagine if Russia tried to make Mexico a close ally by propping up their government and trying to convince Mexico to join an alliance with Russia and China. Then America retaliated by invading Mexico to remove the Mexican government in response. Of course the situation would be very unfortunate for the citizens of Mexico caught in the crossfire, but would America really be the bad guy in protecting their self interests in such a scenario?

That's basically how I see the Ukraine situation. If there's a "good guy" here it's the citizens of Ukraine who are in this situation largely through no fault of their own. Everything else is just strategic arguments between NATO and Russia over who gets to add the area to their sphere of influence. And again I'm no Russophile but in this specific case I think NATO pushed a bit too far, and Ukraine dun goofed by entertaining NATO too much.
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You don't need to be a russophile to know that fucking around in a militarily powerful countries' backyard is simply an invitation to start shit. China certainly would chimp out if say, Vietnam was being used to stage ICBMs, or making overtures to an overt anti-Chinese alliance. Or if Norks coming to their senses and starting to make overtures to join the South Koreans. (Actually now that I think about it Ukrainians are the equivalent of North Korea in this case.)

Does it suck? Absolutely. Understandable? Also yes. You can think Putin as an oligarchic asshole and still understand why he did this shit.
 
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draggs said:
You didn't answer, except with the same excuses larger and stronger nations have always used to bully, coerce, and exploit smaller, weaker nations. Muh sphere of influence lol

Ah yes the good old false claim that Ukrainians are Russians. Someone tell the Ukrainians, the majority of them have rejected that for 900 years. Brothers sure. The same people, naturally ruled by the same polity? No

A US claim to the Ukraine as a satellite? The US has the same claim to the Ukraine as a satellite as Russia does. Strength. That's it

Muh hostile proxy lol, the idea that a Ukraine that isn't under Russia's thumb is necessarily a hostile proxy threat to the existence of Russia is classic Russian paranoia and I'm supposed to give a fuck about it. I give as much a fuck about it as I do about neocon paranoia

So

Again

What right does Russia have to dictate the foreign policy of the Ukraine, a sovereign state, not a province of Russia

There is none save strength
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There is none save strength for America and their master, Israel either. There never is.

That said, if ruskies hit those civilian third party ships, Igor is in deep shit.

I think the russians initially gave them a bloody nose, and than sent in the B-team. Ukrainians seem to be keeping (or have lost) the super US giga tank fucker rockets, so maybe the Ruskies are just trying get the ukranians to use their best ammo on their less valuable troops.

Who know. All I know Hungary will get a nice recession at best.
Russia wins, we are swamped with ukranians and no gas due to sanctions.
Ukraine wins, and we are left without gas, and utterly at JEW-S-A's mercy, with no recourse. May as well chop my dick off and worship the kike god.
 
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дядя Боря said:
the real reason suicide rates are so high in russia is high closeted troonery
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ironically russians seem to better at trooning than americans, they get memed as troon holocausters but still have a metric ton of them living there,

Wouldn't the only people who would have the means to troon out in a country like that were most people can barely afford basic necessities would be the wealthy sons of oligarchs and government officials? the same supposedly based and redpilled ones? really gets the nog jogging

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BeautifulCancer said:
Oh look, a Cechen tank was shot down and its crew died with it. Let's record this and make it seem as if we've taken down ALL of the Cechen brigade!
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if you can't tell a tank from an army truck ... you have been demoted to armchair private

no one makes such statements. I simply enjoy seeing armed people invading other people's land staying there to fertilize it. +1 for this kind of eco-tourism!
 
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That transponder suddenly stopped. Think they turned it off or got shot down?
 

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Retired Junta Member said:
Speaking of Ukrainian Air Force, I wonder how real the so called Ghost of Kiev is?
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probably an actual ghost by this point that was shot down by S-400, whether they got that many kills or not. either way, pol and others simping hard for them being a woman with fake pilot photos is far more entertaining than whatever the truth is.
 
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