Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Kane Lives]

I only know that Lame Duck Neocon Adam Kinziger is calling for us to establish a no fly zone around the whole of Ukraine. And "disrupt" Russian air operations (ie shoot down Russian planes).

In other words, the grifting NeverTrump retard who's district got nuked out of existence wants to risk the whole country getting nuked out of existence.
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"our"

He should be on the first jet to be dropped over Ukraine.

 

[888Flux]

Take everything you see with a grain of salt. CIAniggers are desperately trying to engineer a narrative. I'm getting tired of seeing the same stupid twitter screencaps posted over and over again. I'm not trying to say trust the experts here, but it's nearly impossible to determine what is truly going on in Ukraine. Especially when the only sources are TikTok and Twatter posts. Both the Russians and Ukrainians have the same military hardware for the most part and someone could manipulate say footage of an APC rolling down the street to mean something entirely different. Americans lack any understanding of geopolitics and this is exploited by the powers that be time and time again, whether it's some Middle Eastern shithole or Ukraine.

MSM reported on the "Ghost of Kiev" story because of ONE SINGLE twitter post. What's more interesting about this conflict is to witness an information war in realtime. GPT-3 bots mobilized to populate feeds across centralized social media platforms with meticulously engineered narratives.

 

[BradCarter]

I know Kiev is the primary target for the Russians right now but after they take it, what then? I know the idea is that countries generally surrender once their capital is lost but who is to say the Ukrainian government won't fight on?

Execute the Ukranian president seems to be pretty high on the priority list. You just install your own guy, then use your military to crush any opposition to his rule

 

[Richardface]

They aren't fighting at full force either and are holding back on civilian casualties with the long-term plan to prevent partisan action against them. Plus the soldiers seem much more disciplined, you don't see them taking videos of dead ukrainians, the only videos we've seen of dead Ukrainians come from Ukrainian civilians.

Yes the discipline on the Russian side shows the value of them moving fron conscripts to a professional force

 

[MelloYello]

For real, all this "Putin is so mad he didn't take it over in an hour!" shit is getting retarded. I had to hear my own family say this shit today along with the Ghost of Kiev bullshit.

Consoomer bugmen can only pay attention for so long. "I want my fireworks, and I want them now, damnit!"

 

[Vindeo]

They aren't fighting at full force either and are holding back on civilian casualties with the long-term plan to prevent partisan action against them. Plus the soldiers seem much more disciplined, you don't see them taking videos of dead ukrainians, the only videos we've seen of dead Ukrainians come from Ukrainian civilians.

sorry just seems like a cope to me. from what i’m seeing and reading all the downed planes, casualty reports, looks pretty grim for the russians considering their standing before they started the invasion.

 

[MugolEx]

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Ain't getting any safer looking.

Oh fuck. No coincidence that the harbinger of bad times and cloger of canals is there.

 

[Shittus Maximus]

So, what would happen if the Ukries by some miracle manage to win the war?

Is Russia going to collapse or not?

If by any chance that were to happen, Putin is in a world of shit. He's already facing anti-war protest and he has reinstated sanctions on Russia. There would be a good chance of a coup happening.

 

[Disheveled Human]

I know Kiev is the primary target for the Russians right now but after they take it, what then? I know the idea is that countries generally surrender once their capital is lost but who is to say the Ukrainian government won't fight on?

Once the capital is fully taken cease fire negotiations should come shortly after, people will starve in the city if they lose control in Kyiv.

 

[Mr Bunny]

yeah and russia shouldn’t be struggling as hard as they are. russia is top 3 most powerful militaries in the world lmfao.

It took the US a month to finish off Iraq.

 

[BeautifulCancer]

For real, all this "Putin is so mad he didn't take it over in an hour!" shit is getting retarded. I had to hear my own family say this shit today along with the Ghost of Kiev bullshit.

Ye. Even Poland didn't fall in 48 hours. I know there's new technology and shit, but so does Ukraine. Anti-air, automatic weapons and overall better training makes steamrolling a whole country harder, especially if Putin is on purpose leaving troops behind.

 

[Emperor Pupienus]

The interesting duality of "Sanctions won't do shit" and "These sanctions are way too harsh, Russia will have nothing else to lose".

The best part is the worst of the damage has been self inflicted, the Moscow Market getting rather raped following the invasion.

I have not heard anyone express the latter, that the sanctions are too harsh and Russia will have nothing left to lose. The West kind of already blew its load with Crimea-era sanctions, which were very severe. Russia has already built up a bunch of parallel institutions and alternate means of conducting their business, or finding new customers elsewhere, such as China. At a certain point, with the SWIFT stuff, the West stands only to undermine trust in its own institutions and risks blowing up Western hegemony over stuff like global finance. It is very bad for America et al if entities like the IMF/WB lose their monopoly on 3rd world neocolonialim, because the Russo-Chinese alliance made their own, for example (already starting with Belt & Road Initiative stuff).

 

[Breadbassket]

Oh fuck. No coincidence that harbinger of bad times and cloger of canals is there.
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The floating herald of disaster has appeared.

 

[Richardface]

Desert Storm took 90-odd hours once the flare was lit to go across the berm.

The Air War was the US going "How about we do it Biblically and bomb their asses for 40 days and 40 nights?"

Sorry I meant desert storm 2 aka operation iraqi freedom

 

[Jasper2K]

Yeah...

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"step sis being extra nice" LMAO

 

[BradCarter]

sorry just seems like a cope to me. from what i’m seeing and reading all the downed planes, casualty reports, looks pretty grim for the russians considering their standing before they started the invasion.

I'm not invested at all in picking sides, but nigga what? There are fucking rockets hitting the Ukrainian capital and you think those looks grim for the Russians?

 

[mr.moon1488]

Dammit, I wish Russia wasn't completely locking down their own guys.

I'd love to get some fucking TikToks and FB feeds of the Russian side, preferably at their log bases and their fobs.

Hard to judge just how hilariously fucked up both sides are when one side is being quiet and making everyone think they've got a bunch of FOAB and shit just twenty miles back behind the line.

Coordination looks like shit though for the Russians and the Ukrainians are fucking a gaggle of retarded geese.

Kind of understandable that Russia is doing it though. Even if it loses them to propaganda war, it does prevent the Ukrainians from getting a good idea of Russian troop movements.

 

[MG-34]

It took the US a month to finish off Iraq.

Iraq doesn't border the United States.

 

[ShoFuKan]

can someone explain to me whats happening at the kiev zoo using star wars???? Han Solo!!!! hahahahah

prayers

Well the Zoo is Hoth and the Rebels are Ukrainians, they're trying to hold on but those big nasty Russian imperials with their stormtroopers are coming in with their giant AT-ATs or T-80 tanks in real life and it's all messy.
Han Solo would be the civilian who took that video, bravely risking his life so he can post it to twitter.

 

[BeautifulCancer]

Desert Storm took 90-odd hours once the flare was lit to go across the berm.

The Air War was the US going "How about we do it Biblically and bomb their asses for 40 days and 40 nights?"

>Comparing a sandnigger country to Ukraine
>Comparing America's no-fucks-given policy of forgiven warcrimes to Russia's careful attitude.