Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Strix454]

Man this whole thing doesn't make sense to me, of course to be fair I'm a retarded zoomer in most peoples eyes here but if someone could explain one key thing I'd be real appreciative. Why the hell are the troops spread out so much? To minimize damage from an aerial bombardment and perform a pincer attack on the capital? That would make sense to me if Ukraine were an actual threat compared to Russia but they're not, if they just blitzed the hell out of them this would all be over already and they would have had the capital forever ago.

The troops are spread out like that to spread out the Ukrainian army on the other side. By coming at them from all directions, you spread everything out on their side and make it impossible for them to concentrate force at any specific point.
And taking the capital (by Blitz or otherwise) alone does not necessarly end the war.
I would also think based on their strategy that the Russians are serious about defeating and eliminating the entire Ukrainian Army.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

No, no. The Fremen help the Atredies. The Atredies get their shit pushed in by the Harkonnens.

I was more thinking along the lines of the fremen are fighting but ultimately helpless to stop the Harkonnen, but the Atreides will touch sand as soon as the imperial decree comes in.

 

[Emperor Pupienus]

Map of hypothetical invasion routes, which I found posted to a Russian telegram that I suspect may be associated with the Russian government (in English, propaganda directed outward like RT):

 

[Strix454]

I expect ukraines government may relocate to Lviv near Poland.

That would make the most sense. But neither side in this conflict is operating by rational rules.

 

[Kane Lives]

The troops are spread out like that to spread out the Ukrainian army on the other side. By coming at them from all directions, you spread everything out on their side and make it impossible for them to concentrate force at any specific point.
And taking the capital (by Blitz or otherwise) alone does not necessarly end the war.
I would also think based on their strategy that the Russians are serious about defeating and eliminating the entire Ukrainian Army.

They're definitely gunning for the prize, yes.

 

[MrJokerRager]

What is the deal over this oddball's name being dropped by Tucker?

Victoria Nuland - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[WaveBreak]

I wonder what Navalny is thinking right now. if he isn't being tortured as we speak of course

 

[Herty]

Seems like Kyiv is close to falling:

 

[Bananadana]

Immobilizing a tank isn't substantially more difficult than it was in WW2, even with inadequate weapons.
The problem is that Russia is hardly going to do them the favor of throwing in tanks in manageable numbers, or without support.
They're not short on time, men, or material.

ATGM ambushes are a threat. Last-ditch militias, though? I doubt it.

Those will be a PITA for as long as they are occupying since the civvies now have seemingly rather open access to just go and stash an RPG or two (or a fucking javelin) in their basement cubby whole. Keep in mind these are Ukranian Civvies with now extra spicy deluxe hatred for Russians who will occupy their country. And that there will 100% be vets amongst them that do know how to use this crap.
Also keep in mind that sometimes even during peaceful times, slavs just go and detonate an old soviet grenade or do other retarded-beyond-normal-standards shit with soviet era explosive devices they really have no business owning.
I would not feel good driving a BTR with Russian markings through Ukraine for the forseeable future, End of war or not. You can "de-nazify" and disarm the Ukranian Troops.
Cant really do that to every single shitty hut that may or may not contain an RPG in the entirety of Ukraine.

 

[BlackDragoons]

It's not an occupation, it's never intended to be an occupation. The Russians have said so themselves. They just want Ukraine to tell NATO to fuck off and that's it. It can be in a constant state of insurgency like it has been for the last 10 years after that for all the Russians care

Bruh this has never been about NATO. I have a fatter chance of fucking 10/10 girl then Ukraine joining NATO.

 

[MelloYello]

Dude they have been shelling cities and apartment buildings lmao turn off Russia Today.

Maybe you underestimate the damage a real bombardement with artillery or aircraft could do.
To see what would happen if the russians were seriously trying to wreck the city, you need to look no further than Grozny.

 

[Psychotron]

Keep Taiwan Strait

 

[Vindeo]

second Il-76 shot down?

no video evidence of this one.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497383637314060300?s=20&t=H4RbCdfFQQGcGZ4ZlldOcw

 

[DicksOutForKiwigglers]

I was more thinking along the lines of the fremen are fighting but ultimately helpless to stop the Harkonnen, but the Atreides will touch sand as soon as the imperial decree comes in.

Perhaps. That's one way to look at things.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

Maybe you underestimate the damage a real bombardement with artillery or aircraft could do.
To see what would happen if the russians were seriously trying to wreck the city, you need to look no further than Grozny.

The context was tactics used by the US in Iraq versus the peace-loving totally not homosexual russian master race.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

I wonder what Navalny is thinking right now. if he isn't being tortured as we speak of course

He's a Russian imperialist just like Putin so publicly he will protest but privately he probably agrees that Ukraine is rightful Russian clay.

 

[AGPinochet]

no video evidence of this one.

is there even video evidence of the first alleged shoot down?

 

[Aidan]

second Il-76 shot down?

no video evidence of this one.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497383637314060300?s=20&t=H4RbCdfFQQGcGZ4ZlldOcw

Was there video evidence of the other one? The only shot down plane caught on cam I'm aware of was a Ukrainian SU-24(?) that Ukraine said was Russian at first.

 

[Hüftpriester]

Apparently Coach Red Pill is stuck in a Kyiv hotel

 

[Osmosis Jones]

Well in this rabbit hole, we have been seeing lots of live streams from Ukrainian civvies taking vids of the Russian forces and overall the Russianshave left them alone.

And if the chechen have been given the same orders of to not fuck with civvies then their warlord will personal behead them if they disobey.

Yeah other than randomly bombing apartment buildings with fighter jets and crushing cars with armored vehicles I guess the Russians are bretty gool

Not taking sides, just pointing out the retarded idea that civvies are being left alone and the notion that this somehow makes it something along the lines of a victimless crime.