General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Azchan]

What with current events (both Hololive and... elsewhere), and the fact that she's supposed to be chaos incarnate, this tweet hits a little differently.
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Maybe she got to see Calli dancing in 3d.

I feel like people are also glossing over the fact that Rushia's manager did make a call to remedy the situation. That being to stay put and wait for it to blow over like Towa, Calli, etc. In hindsight too that actually is the right decision but if what Korekore is saying is true than Rushia basically ignored what her manager told her to do because she perceived it as a form of "bullying" and went to him behind her Manager's back out of sheer stupidity and desperation. At that point the only way her manager could have stopped her was to take away her internet like a child getting grounded.

This is why I didn't agree with the person who mentioned that the manager had to get fired too. As a manager, there is only so much you can do. If the talent decides to ignore you and do their own thing thats on them, not the manager.

his take is after a bit of looking in, likely maybe even going into the "forbidden knowledge" and maybe asking KSON. He accepts its a messy thing, 50/50 split on the fault of the entire situation. He understands Rushia fucked up with the whole contract and leaking info thing. The 50 on Cover is mostly usual stuff of mental health, support yadda yadda and how frustrating it is when all the fanbase gets is PR talk.

That's my tl;dr. To be frank, Koefficient at least tries to understand the whole situation before shoving his foot in his mouth, unlike a certain whore in Vshojo (its Veibae btw if you're dense or on that Vshojo fap train). Supposedly FalseEyeD released a vid on it. Which.. shame no one on the thread picked up on it because we're so fucking autistic on the rrats, tribalism, corpos are bad, doomposting etc etc or maybe the thread just doesn't trust FalseEye

Anyways, FaleseEye's vid is below for your watching. It's.. complete in a sense on the situation imho

I decided to skip out on False after he started sperging out on the other retarded vtuber (not that i watched much of him maybe a recap video or two a month).

 

[Golurk Learned Fly]

At a corporate level, yes. But the talents? It would be really telling if 2 plus years of establishing a relationship with 50 talents suddenly ends and no one talks about her ever again.

If it's true that she purposefully leaked stuff in order to get back at imagined slights from other talents, I could totally see the girls completely unperson her. Well, maybe not Marine, bless her heart.

I decided to skip out on False after he started sperging out on the other retarded vtuber (not that i watched much of him maybe a recap video or two a month).

Same, but these two Rushia videos are very matter-of-fact and serve as a useful aggregate of all the stuff that happened.

 

[I am not here]

Was there any interactions between CN and EN?

wait.. you're serious?

EDIT: okay, had to stop laughing to type this out properly. CN got person non gratas so hard that unless you were following Vtubers from as early and late as Fubuki's shot to fame aka Scatman, HoloCN is probably not even a speck of dust on most people radar. The thread only remembers them because most of the CN branch were traitors and filty bugmen who went on to have failing Vtuber careers on bilibili (not like the Chinese govt's rules and bs helped em down the road). The few that are accepted are Yogiri and maybe Civia. Artia is known as the local Judas and the rest are.. well.. I don't remember em

 

[Nene's Husband]

Checking the Holosub there doesn't seem to be that much bitching and moaning tbh, i was expecting more anger from the normie fans but there's not even any saviourfag posts. Most of the talk is just "Sub reopened, haha funny". I guess banishing all of that talk to one thread does work to keep the sub at bearable autism levels.

Also callie playing Bloodborne, finally.

 

[Twin Addler]

At a corporate level, yes. But the talents? It would be really telling if 2 plus years of establishing a relationship with 50 talents suddenly ends and no one talks about her ever again.

I mean it's already starting. Other than Haachama raiding her blockgame house everyone's just streaming as usual as if nothing else changed. Even on that haachama stream she couldn't even say her name.

 

[Aliepheese]

At a corporate level, yes. But the talents? It would be really telling if 2 plus years of establishing a relationship with 50 talents suddenly ends and no one talks about her ever again.

something people not realize is that there also very little reason to bring her up at all in the first place, like we know they can talk about Coco but only Kanata really does because she fucking lives with her, its very little reason to bring up someone who you don't work with on streams.

Was there any interactions between CN and EN?

I remenber Calli talking to Artia on twitter (on her Elon Musk tweet) like once and that about it

 

[Slowie Joey]

I remenber Artia talking to Artia on twitter (on her Elon Musk tweet) like once and that about it

She talked to herself?

 

[danny jr]

To be clear, I don't buy the idea that Rushia was actually being bullied. It's not impossible, but she's kinda nuts, so... anyway, I'm just curious if the stream times can help nail down who she thinks it was.

My approach would be to write a quick script using the Youtube API to download the stream times and format them as CSV, toss that into Excel or something that can make a heatmap chart out of it. If I'm feeling autistic enough when I'm free later, might even do it, but no promises. Should certainly be easier than manual comparisons.


It's hilarious because the top (non-moderator) post is still the poorly-timed "Rushia has no end" meme. Guess now that it's opened that will finally go away.

I have no clue how to automate it, so if somebody could do that and pass me the data, that would be nice.

Instead, I went through Playboard from August 2021-December 2021 and marked down all public Rushia streams that weren't member only. Honestly made me feel sad. It was like looking at old pictures... I remember watching some of those streams.

However, this takes forever, and if you can't find a way to automate it, I'm willing to accept help from other numberfags to fill in the data.

Who Bullied Rushia

// (year assumed 2021) timezone pst; [month, date], [starthour, startminute], [endhour, endminute] // going from december 2021 to the beginning of august 2021 // dates in month-day format // times in 24h format, make sure to pay attention to AM and PM // if a stream runs to the next day (ex. 9 pm...

docs.google.com

If you really wanted to, you could fill in data for other girls who we are suspecting that Rushia felt miffed by. I'm assuming we're OK with stopping the data at August.

At a corporate level, yes. But the talents? It would be really telling if 2 plus years of establishing a relationship with 50 talents suddenly ends and no one talks about her ever again.

I wonder if her body in ARK is still there.

 

[Sevatonius]

wait.. you're serious?

Like I said I missed out on all that mess.

 

[Jep21]

Where were you when takamori returned?

 

[RiverBear]

>Mafumafu message pops up on screen
>drama ensues, drama peddlers feast on it immediately
>Rushia tells management she wants to release a statement denying a relationship with Mafumafu
>since it's a holiday + weekend, management tells her to wait until Monday
>she goes to Korekore and sends him screenshots to resolve the issue since Cover doesn't want to do anything until Monday
>Korekore shows screenshots on his stream
>Cover on high alert, launches investigation why Korekore has Discord messages from Cover staff/employees
>investigation finds that Rushia has been spilling the beans to Korekore and other drama channels about Cover and Hololive for a while now (mostly unsubstantiated claims) (proof is the screenshot from November where she said "I want them all to be unhappy")
>Cover terminates Rushia because of NDA

 

[Nolan Crush]

Gura will soon be powerwashing her disgusting chumbuds

"eggs are not clean, ever heard of a cloaca Joe"- Gura 2022

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Gura: I've put a lot worse things in my mouth, if only you knew.

uh

EDIT:
Gura: I almost worked in children's television.

whatever didn't work out due to (possible) budget reasons. imagine, gura a disney girl like Bella Thorne and Lindsey Lohan

 

[dickswag]

Was there any interactions between CN and EN?

No, the China spergout was in full effect before HoloEN's 1 month collab ban ended. The most interaction they had is a couple ENs mentioning that they would like to collab with Artia/Civia at some point, and maybe they tweeted at each other a couple times, but that's all. By the time EN was allowed to collab with the rest of Hololive, CN for the most part didn't want anything to do with the Hololive brand.

 

[Sevatonius]

Where were you when takamori returned?

Here's hoping the fans don't shit the bed about it like last time (They will)

 

[Just a Basic Plebian]

Spoiler: sum good ol repls

The fact is that what Matsuri doing on her alt twitter account related to the incident did not get her terminated.

She may be a mochi-cheeks menhera, but at least she's just screaming and ranting to her fans rather than literally sharing personal business shit to others. She may be a NEET, but at least she ain't that dumb to breach NDA.

Rrat time: it could have been her that had an issue with everybody else rather than the reciprocal. It would fit her personality type. Though the trivial answer is probably that she's just too autistismo to make a lot of friends.

Honestly, it just seems to me she is making shit up in her head. She seems to be trying to justify being passive aggresive and manipulative to people. Anyone who threatens people with suicide all the time is generally going to be a hugely manipulative asshole.

I've had experiences with this where an ex turned the stories around and make herself the victim. Every friend tried to help but she's just so full of her menhera self.

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Speaking of, wot da shork talkin about dis time lmao its basically a washing-zatsudan

 

[Lyra94]

I cannot see a reality where Rushia gets completely erased like a Stalinist wet dream. Chris and Mano, sure but Rushia is next level. On that note, I got into this sphere almost a year ago, months after the HoloCN vanished. Was there any interactions between CN and EN? Sorry if this was asked in the past, but had this question on my mind but really didn't want to ask /vt/ about it lol.

EN released about when CN started to go to shit so they never could have really interacted.
Yogiri and Spade did nothing wrong

 

[Bumbling Fat Moron]

EN released about when CN started to go to shit so they never could have really interacted.
Yogiri and Spade did nothing wrong

Yes, they did something wrong.
They were born chinese.

 

[Nolan Crush]

Considering the closest thing we have to bullying was: streaming at the same time as her, management telling her not to do certain things, and gen-mates not really helping/taking her seriously than it sounds less like bullying and more like Rushia being extremely paranoid and whining like a spoiled brat for not getting her way with things.

I agree, though how much blame she should be given for that and other stuff I'm unsure. The people not taking her seriously depends on what she was talking about.

I think ultimately (from what I can tell so far), she was a victim of her own mental illnesses. Paranoia causes her to act out and the stress of the drama was the breaking point.
It's sad.

 

[LunaKage]

I really liked Yogiri's design. That's about all I really knew about HoloCN. They were still going strong when I first fell down the rabbit hole, but I didn't even want to think about the ID branch at that time, let alone CN, so I stuck with JP. Only ever tried to watch a couple of Yogiri clips, but I liked what I saw.