Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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Ukrainian Woman Confronts Russian Soldier

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Even in Ukraine they exist:
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Hold on, @Disheveled Human , you keep bringing up this apartment building shit... you aren't talking about the Russian aircraft that was shot down and happened to inadvertently hit an apartment building, are you? I've been in this thread for 100's of pages and unless I missed something during my sleep I haven't seen Russians indiscriminately hitting apartment buildings...

Please do enlighten me if I missed it, I'm genuinely curious.
This just happened minutes ago lol
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Video Link: https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1497459402164555776?cxt=HHwWgMCyuY7ZhcgpAAAA

 
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I actually didn't know about anything of this. I thought the main complaint about Urgent Fury was that Grenada was too insignificant of a country to warrant a operation on that scale.
I looked but I couldn't find any actual confirmation besides the memoirs a couple of people put out.

But there was a real reason we hit it so hard, so fast, and 82nd was given the go-ahead when the Division CO called up 1st Cav and 101st and said "Feed me men till I say stop."

Notice something about the casualty list? Something kind of... hmmmm?

There were some sketch ass rumors about what was really caught on the ground, and some dudes caught some BSV's and IIRC there were two Silver Stars and a lot of "National Security" slapped on the After Action Reports.
 
What legitimate concerns?
Not wanting a NATO member state directly on it's borders - that's been the source of this entire flare up and the conflict in Georgia.

Granted, Putin and company are corrupt thugs and the way they have decided to fully address this is retarded, but that doesn't make their security concerns illegitimate.
 
From RT (Russia Today):

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Military vehicles from the Russian-backed militia of Lugansk cross the Siverskyi Donets River 'to further liberate the territory of the LPR', according to Russian Ministry of Defence
I saw this earlier. With them moving out of the Donbas region and into offensive engagements with the Ukrainian military, I'm kind of wondering how many of the Russian casualties we're seeing are from the actual Russian military, and how many are militia members.
 
though Russia’s silence is telling me that things aren’t as positive as they seem
Again I hate to sound like a russaboo but people keep saying this and I don't think it's accurate. If anything the silence should be indicative that things are going as expected if not better. There's no real reason to flex nuts when you know you've got them and are currently stomping the competition. The Russian assault groups don't seem to need the motivation or convincing that they're doing a good job and Russia's government also probably doesn't wanna be seen as braggart conquerors to score as much PR with Ukraine as possible.
 
I'm not a fan of Putin but I'm astonished when people fail to understand the Ukraine demanding to join NATO and also becoming the DNC's bitch were bad moves that could only antagonize Russia, Also failing to see the US is in no position to defend it when our Commander in Chief is a caricature of a President no one respects so Putin knew he could get away with going in. That's not simping, it's reality.
Why can the antagonism only go one way? Russia's belligerence and support of separatists within its own nominal borders wasn't exactly endearing to a Ukrainian government which valued its own independence. Were they just supposed to put up with that indefinitely? Of course they were turning towards NATO for some security. And if somehow, through the grace of God, Ukraine is able to survive this without their government being wiped out and replaced, I'm sure they're going to be more motivated than ever for an alliance with whatever non-Russia-affiliated nation-state willing to ally with them.
 
What makes you think Ukraine's population is 40% in favor of the invaders?

If it's the "they talk Russian" spiel, I've already pointed out in another comment that this is misleading nonsense. Most ex-Soviet states have people who talk Russian comfortably, many videos of Ukrainians fighting against Russians in this conflict have Ukrainians speaking Russian and they don't seem to be pro-Russian in the slightest.
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Just a guess
 
I saw this earlier. With them moving out of the Donbas region and into offensive engagements with the Ukrainian military, I'm kind of wondering how many of the Russian casualties we're seeing are from the actual Russian military, and how many are militia members.
Well all the casualties with be "miltia" glorious mother Russian did not lose a single man this time.
 
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