Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Random Internet Person]

Okay this got a chuckle out of me.

https://twitter.com/mtosc98/status/1497468560154759170?s=21

 

[Socrates]

This.

Russia cannot possibly lose.

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I would be just as hard on russiaboos too but their propaganda is a little more subtle in the west than the giant gold dildo dickslap in the face that is Ukranian propaganda atm.

 

[God of Nothing]

Okay this got a chuckle out of me.

https://twitter.com/mtosc98/status/1497468560154759170?s=21

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I've never thought about NATO because they are the literally who of global organizations that do nothing.

 

[Richardface]

Sending convoys of tanks without support down the highway to get blown up is pretty embarrassing for the Russians.

There was heavy fighting around Kharkov and some russian tanks went boom there but I don't recall seeing whole unsupported tank formations go boom, other than some Ukie ones that were hit by airstrikes?

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Okay this got a chuckle out of me.

https://twitter.com/mtosc98/status/1497468560154759170?s=21

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Well, that's not entirely true. They threw a big hissyfit when the Bad Orange Man said bad things about NATO, but with the attention span of the modern American, I'm not surprised if they think it is.

 

[MySonDavid]

Okay, here's Russian foreign policy 101. For centuries Russia's number one foreign policy priority is a water water, thus ice free all year round, port. Russia grabbed Crimea, which was not really thrilled to be part of Ukraine in the first place, because the idiot Ukrainians started making noises about not renewing the Russian's lease on the naval base in Sevastopol. Playing games with that was terminal stupidity on the Ukrainians part and the reason Obama backed the fuck down on that one is probably that both the Russians and the brainlets in the State Department told him, in no uncertain terms, that it was something the Russians would fight over.

Crimea is not, historically, part of Ukraine anyways, it's a pretty direct line from Greeks, to Romans, to Byzantines, to various steppe tribes, to the moslems, to Russia.

Oh, I am aware.

 

[Richardface]

Also for fucks sake schizos the REAL reason for this whole war was to crowd low-percent-vaccinated Ukrainians into tightly confined poorly ventilated bomb shelters together so that the COVID viruses could network together and gain sentience

 

[Bananadana]

From R/Ukraine:
"Putin's Aggression Against Ukraine LIES vs FACTS"

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This seems ignorant of the reality of what Russia actually means by "Targeting cities"
They are not talking about shooting the Army in the city. They are not talking about somehow preventing debris from hitting it or any and all collateral.
They mean directly and unapologetically leveling entire housing blocks worth of civilians just to demoralise the enemy.
DOES NOBODY REMEMBER THAT THIS IS RUSSIA ? CAN WE NOT ACT LIKE THEY HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING VIOLENT ?


The worst part is that battles like the ones for Eastern Europe are so much more interesting than any capeshit crossover and could easily capture the interest of your average coomsoomer if you just packaged it into a video game or movie. If COD and BF could do anything else but the same "RUSSIA SOMEHOW INVADES US BUT IS INCOMPETENT" or "WokeWar2" campaigns. Just imagine playing through the different battles of the chechen war. Cant tell me that would not be more interesting than "Cold war but current year+10"
But no, i need to deal with countrymen who need to compare real war to fucking harry potter, just to then get shocked when "believe in yourself and be proud" does not stop a ballistic Missile. Because if you kept the average person even remotely aware about anything else but sports and capeshit, then who the fuck is going to glass the next middle eastern shithole ?

How bad does this world have to get for these fuckers to wake up and realize what exact kinda extra savage country their imaginary shizo headmates and establishment handlers are telling them to drag us into a fight against? Are there any Redditors who even knows where the Balkans are ? Because otherwise they may actually drag everyone into a war in short order if the "Putin=Voldemort" Propaganda-Machine does not stop.

What makes you think Ukraine's population is 40% in favor of the invaders?

If it's the "they talk Russian" spiel, I've already pointed out in another comment that this is misleading nonsense. Most ex-Soviet states have people who talk Russian comfortably, many videos of Ukrainians fighting against Russians in this conflict have Ukrainians speaking Russian and they don't seem to be pro-Russian in the slightest.

These Russian minorities in the east dont just "speak russian", they are Russian.
They got put there as part of the soviets glorious "Russofication" repopulation process around the same time the holodomor wiped out up to 80% of the Ukrainian population in some areas.
This process bumped "ethnic russians" up to 40-ish% of the overall population in the eastern states of Ukraine. Hence Russia getting pissy when you blow up said states.
They could not care less about what the Ukraine does to the Ukranians who speak Russian. They do care about the Russians in the Ukraine though and its reasonable to assume its mutual considering that the call for help from these exact Russians was one of the reasons for the invasion.

Russification of Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Soviets may not have the same reputation of being "Our people are the master-race" kinda guys, but they sure acted like they need some more (Ukrainian in this case) Lebensraum for their Russians and succeed in replacing a vast amount of the local population in some areas.

Saying the entire country is 40% Russian is still dumb though, since only the eastern territories get that high. Its less than 5% elsewhere (especially west).

Note, the map does not say "Russian as first language" or some other literal linguistic shenanigans. "Ethnic Russians".

 

[mr.moon1488]

Ukraine taking a page from the IDF playbook.

https://twitter.com/patheditsindia/status/1497471677663301634

 

[XYZpdq]

Okay this got a chuckle out of me.

https://twitter.com/mtosc98/status/1497468560154759170?s=21

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first caring about Canada, now NATO? will wonders never cease!

Gotta love how people are treating real life like a game of Civilization. Just because Russia didn't achieve a domination victory by turn 23 doesn't mean they've completely and utterly failed and aren't going to take what they want in the end. Nuance is just dead in the 21st century. Everything is black and white.

I do get the impression this was supposed to be a lot more immediate and stunning for Russia but yeah this def seems to be them handicapping for optics and still very early into a real conflict.

I totally heard it on Coast to Coast once.

hrm... Art Bell or Snoory? this is important

Ukraine taking a page from the IDF playbook.
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https://twitter.com/patheditsindia/status/1497471677663301634

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tactical combat makeup

 

[Socrates]

Also for fucks sake schizos the REAL reason for this whole war was to crowd low-percent-vaccinated Ukrainians into tightly confined poorly ventilated bomb shelters together so that the COVID viruses could network together and gain sentience

This is true I am covid rn. It's too late DNA having nigger cattle.

 

[Terra Pax]

Do you have a single fact to back this up?

No he is right here. Standard procedure for the safe removal of dangerous biological threats is to fire missiles at the building. 100 % guaranteed to prevent any chance of contamination. All the airlocks, fancy hazmat suits and hermitically sealed cases for transport you normally see in those kinds of operations are just for show. The building will be hit, the building will burn down in it's entirety, and the all viable traces will be destroyed with no chance of contamination by the blast and shock waves of a missile impact.

This is how such biological threats are handled in the 21st century.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

I am on the phone with vlad right now and…yes he is confirming Russian forces have liberated over 10,000 boy slaves of globohomo rape gulags so far. What a chad!

 

[HumanHive]

There was heavy fighting around Kharkov and some russian tanks went boom there but I don't recall seeing whole unsupported tank formations go boom, other than some Ukie ones that were hit by airstrikes?

There are videos from the first day of Russian tanks that got raped.

 

[XYZpdq]

No he is right here. Standard procedure for the safe removal of dangerous biological threats is to fire missiles at the building. 100 % guaranteed to prevent any chance of contamination. All the airlocks, fancy hazmat suits and hermitically sealed cases for transport you normally see in those kinds of operations are just for show. The building will be hit, the building will burn down in it's entirety, and the all viable traces will be destroyed with no chance of contamination by the blast and shock waves of a missile impact.

This is how such biological threats are handled in the 21st century.

well, if you leave it to drunk gopniks...

 

[El Iluminado]

You know I have a weird feeling that both Russia and Ukraine severly underestimated the capabilities of the other while vastly overestimating their own ones.

The thing is that the ruskies aren't sending their best troops. I saw some pics of captured Russian soldiers and some where born after 2002 and 2003. So they are basically sending cannon fodder.

 

[Richardface]

There are videos from the first day of Russian tanks that got raped.

yes but entire armored columns?

 

[Emperor Pupienus]

Out of curiosity, why “Z, O, and V”? Do they mean something in Russian?

Latin characters that couldn't be confused with any type of Ukrainian markings, only thing known for sure is Z units are coming from Crimea and V units are coming from Belarus, don't know where O units are.

Russian IIF markings are odd, and made difficult by the fact the Ukrainians readopted standard Soviet invasion markings in 2014.

It's weird how both the Russians and Ukrainians settled on using white and florescent yellow armbands respectively for their soldiers even in full uniform. But it also makes sense as I know a guy who was in the Military in the 70s and 80s, and he told me that in those days you identified enemy soldiers based on their helmets and not their uniforms because in battle they all look alike.

Well kinda hard to do that these days when most helmets now have more or less the same shape.

Not sure of the veracity of this claim, but I have seen people asserting that they are Latin first letters of their destination. Specifically with respect to the V-force headed towards a settlement whose name begins with V (I forget which [EDIT: it's Vyshhorod, according to this tweet.]). NOT based on anything I've read, but purely as an example, perhaps a force labelled with O may be moving on Odessa.

This does not really make sense to me. Seems like a big opsec issue, unless they're also also seeding in a bunch of misdirection/disinfo with fake labels of that type. That, or the Russians figure they are so much stronger than Ukraine that it really doesn't matter if the enemy knows precisely where they are going.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

I would be just as hard on russiaboos too but their propaganda is a little more subtle in the west than the giant gold dildo dickslap in the face that is Ukranian propaganda atm.

Plus I have a dancing anime cheerleader so, you know...

 

[HumanHive]

yes but entire armored columns?

Yes. Columns. As in “obviously got flanked by infantry because they were more interested in speed than securing their lines of advance”.