Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Take with a big grain of salt since he's a Russiaboo and his source an nonspecified is Russian State TV presenter. But the US will support Ukraine declaring itself neutral as part of a peace treaty.
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Hackallier said:
That tweet is fake news. The tweet claims this was result of a night fight. It is clearly the aftermath of this video:
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There is also conflicting information what this video even represents. Claims of friendly fire, which side the soldiers in the truck are etc.
Edit: I don't see any letter on the side of that truck, so I'm leaning it's actually Ukrainian.
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The truck is definitely ukie the Russians don't use the ZSU trucks anymore
 
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So why didn't Biden just say this during his alleged meetings with Putin? Seems pretty fucking stupid we wait until a bunch of people are dead, just to turn around and say oh yeah we will support a neutral Ukraine, seems what Putin asked for when Biden replied "I don't do lines."
 
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Su-27 Flanker-B said:
People actually believe in the ukrainian bullshit claims?
Not really here, but everywhere else. A lone Mig-29 took on six jets in an airspace that's almost completely controlled by russians, and wasn't shot down. Ukrainians inflicting heavy lossses on russians. Their tanks getting btfo. THOUSANDS of dead. And not a single proof of that. And people swallow that shit, why?
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Because, apparenly, none of us, even uncle borya, are on frontlines, nor in prpaganda centers that drip this shit in media space.
Then again, you'd expect any side to be true and honest? When exactly same disinformation tactics were used in other war installations, but with a remark about tech and media avaiable?

Just to remind you, in the time when Soviets were heading toward Berlin the Hitler HQ kept assuring their soldiers that everything's under control and that nazis are winning, while in reality they have sustained a shitload of losses, everywhere.

Same goes there, we don't know what the fuck is goin on for real aside from twitter footage and unbacked info from all ministries of bullshit. Claiming things - we can all do that, but would it be actual data, a truth? um, maybe? Maybe not.
 
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Su-27 Flanker-B said:
People actually believe in the ukrainian bullshit claims?
Not really here, but everywhere else. A lone Mig-29 took on six jets in an airspace that's almost completely controlled by russians, and wasn't shot down. Ukrainians inflicting heavy lossses on russians. Their tanks getting btfo. THOUSANDS of dead. And not a single proof of that. And people swallow that shit, why?
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Nobody should believe initial fragmented battle damage assessments posted to social media. Shit, even "official" government numbers are highly suspect.

Is this your first time watching a war? This is normal. Everybody lies all the time and the historians sort this shit out decades later after we are all dead.
 
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MundusVivendi said:
Because, apparenly, none of us, even uncle borya, are on frontlines, nor in prpaganda centers that drip this shit in media space.
Then again, you'd expect any side to be true and honest? When exactly same disinformation tactics were used in other war installations, but with a remark about tech and media avaiable?

Just to remind you, in the time when Soviets were heading toward Berlin the Hitler HQ kept assuring their soldiers that everything's under control and that nazis are winning, while in reality they have sustained a shitload of losses, everywhere.

Same goes there, we don't know what the fuck is goin on for real aside from twitter footage and unbacked info from all ministries of bullshit. Claiming things - we can all do that, but would it be actual data, a truth? um, maybe? Maybe not.
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I am not talking about propagation of propaganda, I'm talking about people swalling obvious lies.
 
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Su-27 Flanker-B said:
IT was posted twenty times already. Which kind of proves my previous point. A single captured soldier is touted to fuck. Imagine if they killed an entire battalion.
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i haven’t seen it at all. i looked through. huh. weird.
 
Also that apartment might have been hit by an errant Ukrainian SAM

Rob Lee (@RALee85)

We should wait for missile experts to identify what kind of missile this is before jumping to conclusions, but it doesn't look like a ballistic or cruise missile to me. Cruise missiles are primarily what Russia has been launching at Kyiv. This could be an air defense missile.
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Su-27 Flanker-B said:
People actually believe in the ukrainian bullshit claims?
Not really here, but everywhere else. A lone Mig-29 took on six jets in an airspace that's almost completely controlled by russians, and wasn't shot down. Ukrainians inflicting heavy lossses on russians. Their tanks getting btfo. THOUSANDS of dead. And not a single proof of that. And people swallow that shit, why?
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During especially intense, ongoing events, there's plenty of opportunities to create nonsense. A lot of people will gobble up information unquestioningly, regardless of how absurd they are.

This happened during the Syrian invasion (I've followed Syrian citizens in social media, who constantly show stuff debunking the BS mainstream Western media kept jamming in our mouths) , Jan 6th, especially.
 
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