Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

tried to watch the video. it's boring. his face looks weird, that nose is really bad, he's making weird forced face expressions all the time. his whole body language makes me feel uncomfortable. is he modifying his voice during the editing? he looks and sounds so strange, I feel as if I'm not watching a real person.
 
He tried to go softer on some features which made his other features look even more square and pointy.
He really did become a cartoon caricature.

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A video about COVID? I think that moment came and went!

He looks very silly in a pink fluffy cardi that's stretched over his shoulders. On a bed with stuffed toys! How old is he! Troonery may have been declassified as a mental illness but they are certainly keeping up appearances.
He’s trying to damage control the pseudo scandal of being in cahoots with the govt/royals/Illuminati/ whatever the fuk
 
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I can never tell if he's tragically, irrevocably blind or if he knows his aesthetics are bad and smiles anyway to screw the haters. The fact that he keeps hiring Brian (who clearly sides with the haters) points to the former over the latter, I think.

tried to watch the video. it's boring. his face looks weird, that nose is really bad, he's making weird forced face expressions all the time. his whole body language makes me feel uncomfortable. is he modifying his voice during the editing? he looks and sounds so strange, I feel as if I'm not watching a real person.
He holds a lot of tension in his face and body while performing and has never figured out how to channel and express that energy well. So he lets it out in jerky, contortive bursts — neck scrunching, head bobbling, jaw clenching, brow raising — with no sense of flow to align them, like his whole body is a leg bouncing under a desk. It's agitating to watch. Strange, too, because this isn't even his natural behavior — he's much more relaxed in his livestreams. For some reason Olly chooses to act this way.

I'd say he has the vibe of someone who overcompensates badly after being told he's not expressive enough in acting school, but looking back on videos from eight years ago, his mannerisms have been similar all along. He just doesn't know how to deliver scripted lines without smacking you in the face with a fakery alarm.
 
Why in the world would a procedure meant to make you look better simply cut off the bottom of the nostrils? Do you think he got laser hair removal?
Even in the video's thumbnail he's wearing the dirty mask. I thought he would at least not put it there unedited. I actually like his pink sweater. The heart in the middle kind of takes attention away from his shoulders by drawing the eye inward.
All these trans dummies should get non surgical treatments if they're going to go on a "medical journey". Hair removal is easy to claim as gender affirming but it won't leave you maimed if you were ever to detransition. There are tons of cosmetic dermatology procedures like: photofacials, microdermabrasion, laser, retinoids, ultrasound skin tightening, surgical microneedling, chemical peels etc. They help your skin produce more collagen and give a pretty, glowy look.
I don't believe body hair removal is a must for females but for transwomen, their hair is naturally going to be more masculine so they're better off getting rid of it entirely. The derm treatments would make their skin more soft and undo some of the effects a lifetime of T had on their body.
They go straight for the nuclear option of surgery.
There are some places in the world where laser hair removal is covered for trannies publicly. Kind of unfair to women with PCOS and other hirsutism-causing conditions, but it's a lot less destructive, with no effect on basic bodily functions like the ability to pee.
I want to see a livestream of Oliver crying while every single hair follicle on his face is plucked and zapped with electrolysis. No numbing of course.
 
Nostrils look totally different on each side! Hilarious. In the ‘cosy’ section of the video with the contra lighting and wallpaper, it looks sooo busted, legit a terrible nose job, like, it’s half done.

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Holy shit, he's gone from moderately Mac Tonight-faced to Caitlyn Jenner. The doctor made him look more like a 50 year old man than previous. It's beautiful in its awfulness. He's a few plastic surgeries away from being the Femme Bogdanoff, I can see it now.
 
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I need to gather my thoughts on the surgery. What's with the video? He's really gonna sit on a bed surrounded by stuffy toys with Contra's signature wallpaper in the background? Are you fucking kidding me?

I noticed he also cited Contra's "Beauty" video as a source, but I'm sure what was cited.

Where was the super special never been done before life-changing part? Must've nodded out because I TOTALLY missed it.

ETA: ok on the surgery....first, why didnt he have his Adam's apple shaved away? You'd think that would be step #1, right?

Now I dont know anything about plastic surgery but is there something they could have done surgically or as a "treatment/tweakment" (like Botox or fillers are "treatments") that would've affected his voice? It sounds more femme than ever. Also there was the KJB tweet about how he couldnt speak because of....whatever he got done.

The nose is iffy. I don't like it. It does remind me of Michael Jackson or Blair White.

The jaw....first thought was they did well, carving down those great slabs of cheek/jaw just a bit. But they did do something to give him apple-cheeks, some kind of filler or something? I dont think all those dimples were there before.

He would still 100% look better as a man and I think the whole thing is sad and mucho, mucho pathos.
 
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So he lets it out in jerky, contortive bursts — neck scrunching, head bobbling, jaw clenching, brow raising — with no sense of flow to align them, like his whole body is a leg bouncing under a desk. It's agitating to watch. Strange, too, because this isn't even his natural behavior — he's much more relaxed in his livestreams. For some reason Olly chooses to act this way.
Kinda reminds me of cokehead tics tbh. Is this the next saga in skinwalking hontra, just with stimulant addiction instead of the downers? Hopefully he starts drinking hard too, I'd love to see that jug of a head just get BIGGER.
 
Oh it looks worse in motion. Olly was never very attractive (imo), but his face was proportioned at least. Now it's like some parts of his face are caving in while others are too round. It's bogged face, and nobody likes to hire bogged actors anymore. And he can never ever go back.

I'm personally hoping for a plastic surgery addictions saga, another surgery will surely help balance it out Olly. And another one. You can fix that nose with more surgery, and maybe get some fillers...
 
Tbh since he's in it I bet it's not even a magazine for same-sex attracted women, just same-"gender".
Lol yes, it is. It's also for genderspecials and transwomen, so basically, for everyone.
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Nostrils look totally different on each side! Hilarious. In the ‘cosy’ section of the video with the contra lighting and wallpaper, it looks sooo busted, legit a terrible nose job, like, it’s half done.

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The metamorphosis begins....
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Lol yes, it is. It's also for genderspecials and transwomen, so basically, for everyone.
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The metamorphosis begins....
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Yeah, Diva magazine was for lesbians for the longest time. Then a few years ago there was some kerfuffle, gay women complaining about trans issues taking over. The usual. I forget the details, but I do remember being a bit shocked by the vehemence of Diva's official response. Something along the lines of "Fuck off and die, dyke TERFS, lol lesbians are lame." Ok last bit exaggerating but that's what it read like to me. It wasn't "We understand the concerns as we strive to be inclusive", it was a really mean "FOAD". The T has taken over the rest of the gay media and gay organizations, this is more of the same.
tried to watch the video. it's boring. his face looks weird, that nose is really bad, he's making weird forced face expressions all the time. his whole body language makes me feel uncomfortable. is he modifying his voice during the editing? he looks and sounds so strange, I feel as if I'm not watching a real person.
Part of it is that Olly has decided after a great great deal of intent study of himself that his "best" side is a 3/4 profile and is striving to keep it in that position as much as possible. But you're right, his whole body language is very stiff and unnatural. His face also seems partially immobile? Botox? Not just the surgery . I thought there'd be work on the tyrannosaurus jaw but I dunno.

I could only get through less than the first 5 minutes for now. His delivery is awful, he's saying words but it's an unclear jumble at first. His impression of John Oliver is godawful and innacurate. And I'll be a bitch and speculate the look he was going for with the jacket and blouse and hair was HRH Cathy Cambridge on one of her outdoorsy walkabouts. Probably saves pics of her as a style inspo.
 
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Listened to the whole thing...and it's really boring. There is very little substance through the 40 mins of mostly talking. He talks about the research on people who has refused to take the vaccine he has been given as part of the vaccine misinformation campaign he's been part of. What's maybe most surprising is how mild his tone is. There are some sour comments here and there, but the general tone is that they aren't lunatics. I have a feeling that he's been instructed to make the video that way, because he mentions that the research shows that condemnation isn't convincing these people.

He tries to explain the science behind the vaccines, how they could be produced this quickly and why they aren't dangerous. I assume he's been told what to say here too, but it's still extremely shallow and unconvincing. It doesn't help that there is flagrantly stupid shit in there too, like basically saying that being healthy won't help you.

There is also a section about vaccines and poor countries, but it's honestly too uninteresting to remember. But you know the gist...capitalism bad or something.

He also can't stop himself alluding to his plastic surgery throughout the video. He ends up saying that he chopped off the tip of his nose. Of course he also can't not make this about trans issues somehow. That turns into a bit of a self own after claiming that he can understand the people saying it's about bodily autonomy because he's a tranny. He then basically makes some greater good argument about transmitting the disease to people who can't take the vaccine and taking hospital beds from other people needing it, apparently not realizing that he wants to take hospital beds, surgery time and tax money to get his superficial surgeries.

He ends it all saying that you should take the vaccine. Not a word was spent talking about how the omicron variant has changed things quite drastically.
 
I want to know what on earth is going on with Stacey Kay’s face. I suspect he had the same type of work that @erininthemorn did where a surgeon adds fillers to make the masculine parts of his face look smaller in comparison, and it kind of almost works from exactly one angle in photos, but from every other angle it looks like a Star Trek alien?

He did it. The absolute madlad went for "the fillers that just make your face bigger" trick.

I am sure many have complained about this, but the absolute lunacy of surgeons who think they can feminize a male face by giving it neotenous features (or, the most neotenous features they can accomplish without drilling down so far they hit brain). Female = flattened childish snub noses, apparently. Never mind that caucasian women with strong features also tend to have noses with a high bridge, and shaving down a nose on a "strong" face just makes it look like the person ran into a wall.

Yeah, Diva magazine was for lesbians for the longest time. Then a few years ago there was some kerfuffle, gay women complaining about trans issues taking over. The usual. I forget the details, but I do remember being a bit shocked by the vehemence of Diva's official response. Something along the lines of "Fuck off and die, dyke TERFS, lol lesbians are lame." Ok last bit exaggerating but that's what it read like to me. It wasn't "We understand the concerns as we strive to be inclusive", it was a really mean "FOAD". The T has taken over the rest of the gay media and gay organizations, this is more of the same.

I am 99% sure that that AGP troon who was wearing a "baby on board" t-shirt on public transport and demanding to be given a seat reserved for pregnant women was connected to Diva in some way, although I can't remember his name.

Part of it is that Olly has decided after a great great deal of intent study of himself that his "best" side is a 3/4 profile and is striving to keep it in that position as much as possible. But you're right, his whole body language is very stiff and unnatural. His face also seems partially immobile? Botox? Not just the surgery . I thought there'd be work on the tyrannosaurus jaw but I dunno.

Other troons who seem to have gotten the same type of Excessive Filler procedure are obsessed with the 3/4 angle as well, check out the two I mentioned above:

 
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