Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Some people seem to be really butt hurt that the Ukarainians are fighting back and having some succcess and are scrambling to claim it's all "propaganda" when it's obviously not.
Dude, for the last 7 years they had no problem showing their own destroyed vehicles and claim that they were actually russian. I'd take anything from them with a bag of salt. They reported that their forces "keep fighting at the airport of Donetsk" when rebels were filming only dead bodies there.

Doesn't mean they will win
Lol, nobody doubts that.

In any situation most countries would be willing to look past another country building a bomb if they knew it wasn't going to be used against them.
Dirty bomb, not nuclear bomb. It's against conventions, if I am not wrong.

Anyway, the arms that were given to people in Kiev are ending up on e-markets. "When hohol was born, the jew cried".
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Except the fact the US was screwing with them at the time. You know that whole ‘oh Ukraine won’t join NATO thing we promise’ while setting them up to do so.
When did this happen? As far as I know, Ukrain didn't want to join NATO until Russia annexed Crimea. I guess it was a big mistake thinking that Russia is different from USSR on their part, but hindsight is 20/20.
Moments ago you were saying it was ridiculous and absolutely not what was happening though.
Because NATO is not "expanding". Countries are freely joining it. Do you not realize the difference between forcing a countries to enter in an agreement and countries freely entering in an agreement? If USA would have pointed guns at us and threatened deportation to some deserts in USA, then yeah, I would call that "NATO expansion", but that's not what happened.
My point was what’s happening now was the end result of the USSR being a thing in the first place and that Russia could never have stopped this. This has been coming for decades. Which is what I said to you at the start several posts ago.
Funny, because that is what I wrote in my 1st post in this thread. The only difference being that, for some reason, you think that Russias past actions are a legitimate reason for its current actions. Could you explain in more detail why being an aggressive forceful expansionist country in the past, then having the annexed countries leaving and joining a defensive alliance legitimizes more aggressive forceful expansion?
No one said they couldn’t. All anyones pointing out is the west’s reasoning for allowing it and acting like Russia is evil for what they are doing reeks of hypocrisy. Not that i mind the west’s hypocrisy.
You just posted that it was promised to Russia that some countries would not be allowed to join NATO. Which is it?
 
So basically it's like black on black crime, but for vodka monkeys.


As delighted as I would be to see this happen, he'll just get replaced by another oligarch butt puppet. Possibly someone worse.

Yeah but they are smarter and more vicious than your average nog, but with better self control. Compared to nigs. Low bar.

My money is either full annex or annex half and puppet the rest.

Also ukranian thot isn't worth a plane ticket. They will cheat on you and are dumb as rocks.

This isn't about winning. We're watching the Slavic version of good ole boys defending their hometowns and ancestral lands to the death.

I just wish to hell you had a little more stupid cowboy in you.

What ancestral land? They are as real as Wakanda lol.

you're supposed to have an electric by now anyway
Lol only richest can afford that.
 
Whole Russian Tank Crew Killed. Whatever hit the vehicle was some powerful stuff (NSFW)
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Actually, that is a good question….


That’s a big boom for even a us made javelin.

Also, I think that the troops were dismounted when the apc was hit. But holy shit that thing either took simultaneous hits from javelins or it got hit by some big boom from the air.

No crater so not a mine or guided air bomb.


Something went INTO that apc, and turned it’s skin into a a weapon,
 
Whole Russian Tank Crew Killed. Whatever hit the vehicle was some powerful stuff (NSFW)
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This looks to me like a BMP-3; I first thought because there were more than three bodies (Russian tanks only have a crew of three) but with the camera being mobile-potato quality and the recorder preferring to focus on the bodies and saying Blyat and Cyka I had to look more closely to be sure. Upon looking at the hull shape and the presence of automatic cannon ammunition strewn all over, I'm almost certain it's a BMP-3.
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If I were to hazard a very uneducated guess, I'd say that something like a Javelin slapped it while it was moving and caused the ammunition to blow up. The BMP-3 has a healthy stow of large shells, which would contribute to the turret toss and complete hull compromise throwing its insides (and the unfortunate crew and passengers) all over the place.
 
Yeah but they are smarter and more vicious than your average nog, but with better self control. Compared to nigs. Low bar.

My money is either full annex or annex half and puppet the rest.

Also ukranian thot isn't worth a plane ticket. They will cheat on you and are dumb as rocks.



What ancestral land? They are as real as Wakanda lol.


Lol only richest can afford that.
I have an EV

It gets cheaper (compared to gas) the more you drive it
 
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Fantastic news. At last a NATO member is doing the right thing.

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Surely just more desperate cope from Putin. It's been one disastrous failure after another for the Russians.

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Oh..
Funny how liveaumap still has it as 100% confirmed and blockade actually happening despite several corrections since:
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Yes, you can click source, which explicitly says this is happening. Despite corrections being right under the tweet by the same fucking twitter journo, ADHD riddled brains are citing it as fact on the internet still. They're gleefully marking everything coming from the Kremlin as [confirmed propaganda], not saying it's not likely true but Ukraine can do no wrong and they would never lie right now I guess. Yes, yes, Ukrainian ran site and the whole 9 yards...

I gotta hand it to them though; I wasn't expecting Ukraine to be this successful at propaganda and abuse of permanently online twitteroid's want for validation and main character syndrome this well.
 
Destroyed Ukrainian humvee on fire in Tokmak, Ukraine. Tokmak seems to be in the central part of Zaporizhzia Oblast and is east of Melitopol, north of Berdyansk and south of Zaporizhzia. This is further evidence that is fighting is going on in this area.
 
One thing conspicuously absent from Western media (checking both Fox and ABC right now) is any talk about what the casus belli is. Putin, apparently, attacked Ukraine because he is an power-mad autocrat, and Ukraine is a democracy. Nothing more. The only place I've seen any attempt at serious discussion on what is motivating this is happening in between autistic bouts of shrieking right her on the Farms.

The fact that everyone in the media agrees that this is a war on democracy is enough to convince me that it's anything but that, and the total absence of any serious talk about the causes convinces me, not that Russia is in the right, but that the real cause is complex enough that it doesn't help the Western power elite any for it to gain any traction in public discussion.
 
>when it's obviously not
A big chunk of it is though. We've already had multiple planes that Ukraine claimed it shot down, which were then proven to be their own planes. I have no doubt that they've inflicted significant casualties on the Russians, but it's obviously not anything like what they're claiming. Shit, we had claims not too long ago that they'd wiped out a whole airborne brigade at the airfield north of Kyiv.
Yes? It's called fog of war and propaganda. Do you believe, honestly, that someone will impassionately release data on enemy losses without fluffing some?

Doesn't mean that they're wholesale lying but the fact remains that it's the third day and Russians are getting bogged down.
 
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Enough about this kyiv or kiev shit, I propose we call it by its true name in its own lettering.
Київ
However, for the benefit of us who do not have a knowledge of cyrillic, we can just pronounce it how it looks in latin. Knib.
So how are all of you knibbers doing today.
Hello my knibba
 
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