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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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I remember when /pol/tards were telling me that Ukraine was a weak puppet state that would capitulate in 48 hours. lol. Just lol.

I just want to remind all the Russian shills on here and elsewhere that your retarded government has effectively done the impossible:

They've united NATO, Europeans, Americans, and most of the democratic world against a common enemy for the first time since the fall of the Soviets. People who couldn't locate Ukraine on a map one week ago are now showing overwhelming support for it's defense. Even China is reluctant to support this dumbass war.

Russia has effectively shut itself out from the rest of the world DPRK style. They've created a permanent rift between themselves and the Ukrainian people that may never recover. This invasion will eventually turn into brutal occupation and insurgency that will take it's toll on an already weakened Russian populace

It doesn't matter how many cities you take or how many soldiers you kill. Long term, Russia WILL lose this war
You are an autist who seemingly does not know history.

1. "UKRAINE WILL BE ALWAYS SUPER MAD AT BAD RUSSIA" is a retarded talking point, since Ukraine forgave and befriended Russia after literally every genocide Russia has ever comitted against Ukraine.

2. United Nato is irrelavant when they do not act. "But muh sanctions!". Those sanctions are specifically designed not to seriously hurt Russia. If they were, they would sanction Russian oil industry, which they haven't done. World leaders like Biden even admit that the sanctions were only a political gesture not meant to do anything.

3. "IT DOESN'T MATTER IF UKRAINE LOSES! RUSSIA STILL LOSES BECAUSE I SAID SO". Okay, lol
You'd be retarded to think they won't work.
Please inform Biden of it
Also >notthebee
I mean, they did show video of him saying it won't work, but I guess its fake news because you hate the website name. Loser.
 
You'd be retarded to think they won't work. The effect isn't immediate, but war costs money and resources. Once that runs out, Putin won't be so smug about them anymore, much less the Russian people. Putin thought it was gonna be a 7 hour war kinda situation, where he can barge in and the weak-ass Ukrainians would drop to their knees and capitulate, he wasn't prepared to fight a war lasting weeks or months. Most of the people weren't even told it was a full on invasion, but a 'military exercise.'

Also >notthebee
You have him all figured out, huh. The situation in the battlespace changes, that doesn't mean the Russian forces aren't prepared or able to adapt to continuing warfare.
 
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Literally none of what you said is true.

>Protests erupting throughout the world
>Western nations sending copious amounts of money and supplies to the Ukrainian army
>EU member states reliant on Russian exports now openly supporting their exclusion from SWIFT
>Ruble and Russian stock market both approaching record lows

lol sure
 
>Protests erupting throughout the world
>Western nations sending copious amounts of money and supplies to the Ukrainian army
>EU member states reliant on Russian exports now openly supporting their exclusion from SWIFT
>Ruble and Russian stock market both approaching record lows

lol sure
Protests are unimportant.
What's the point of them sending aid now? It will all be acquired by Russia.
Russia has its own SWIFT and China can bail them out if need be.
The last is not even worth considering. Who cares?
 

Guys, watch the first minute. Pay attention to a specific soldier...
He ejects his mag so the other guy can come over and show off the patch on the back of his helmet? Very bizarre. Anyone know what this is??
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When I was a young man, I was spent time in Russia (and Uzbekistan). Ordinary Russians are not classy folk, to keep it concise. Tatars are fine.
Tatars have active terrorist cells that support the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc. They're not so different from Russians.

He ejects his mag so the other guy can come over and show off the patch on the back of his helmet? Very bizarre. Anyone know what this is??
Isn't that his unit patch
 
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Protests are unimportant.
What's the point of them sending aid now? It will all be acquired by Russia.
Russia has its own SWIFT and China can bail them out if need be.
The last is not even worth considering. Who cares?
China couldn't bail itself out. Why would they bail out a foreign country when their own economy is on fire?
 
Protests erupting throughout the world
>Western nations sending copious amounts of money and supplies to the Ukrainian army
This implies that protests and west funding Eastern Bloc are not common occurances, which is simply false.
EU member states reliant on Russian exports now openly supporting their exclusion from SWIFT
And, yet, they still keep buying Russian oil, and Germany (behind closed doors) keeps trying to convince the EU to ease the sanctions.
Ruble and Russian stock reaches historic lows
I'm sure. 1922-1991 wasn't real after all.
 
I don't think this works as a blanket statement.

When the USSR fell, they fell FAST, in large part because their industrial capacity may have been large, but it wasn't good at churning out functional products.

Like when a ton of steel was used to make a tractor, it actually lost value going through the industrial process, so the tractor was worth less than the steel used to make it.

A lot of this, of course, has to do with the fact that every Russian man is a complete alcoholic. They're probably drinking the gasoline meant for their shitty tanks and APCs.
I've read the same things about the Chernobyl power plant, turbines would come in so badly made the engineers at the plant would have to rebuild them on site, and have to fabricate new parts for them on-site as well. Apparently, it was like that for the entire plant. Substandard concrete, wrong wiring, damn near everything in the place was done poorly.
 
You have him all figured out, huh. The situations in the battlespace changes, that doesn't mean the Russian forces aren't prepared or able to adapt to continuing warfare.
Morale is a big thing in warfare. A lot of these people aren't fighting for something they believe in, most of them don't want to fight at all. You can shout and command all you want, but if your troops don't move, you're going nowhere. This only gets more difficult as time goes on.

You can really only speculate at this point, since the whole thing is pretty much in its infancy.
 
Morale is a big thing in warfare. A lot of these people aren't fighting for something they believe in, most of them don't want to fight at all. You can shout and command all you want, but if your troops don't move, you're going nowhere. This only gets more difficult as time goes on.

You can really only speculate at this point, since the whole thing is pretty much in its infancy.
Russians obey their master.
 
"C-China will bail them out! Who cares that the EU was Russia's biggest trading partner? It's not like the world runs off the American dollar"

"T-the stock market is unimportant! Who cares about currency value anyways?"

"P-protests? Haha why would global opinion matter?"

Christ you guys are fucking stupid
Aluminum, steel and gas are not sanctioned - no reason to worry.
 
Came across this on Twitter:
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Absolutely insane if Putin really is this desperate because absolutely fucking noone would believe this. What does worry me though is remember that document that went out to health workers telling them to prepare for a major emergency? Everyone assumed it meant the Russkies were taking more casulaties than expected, but what if that wasn't it. if Putin really is getting desperate enough to try an actual false flag then holy shit.

Another interesting thing I came across was this:

Capture 2.GIF
Now I'm not sure I believe the bit about the troops since I doubt Russia actually asked. Right now Russia's issue isn't numbers, and throwing in another nation's troops would just complicate things. What is interesting though is one of Russia's closer allies refusing to back Putin's recognition of the breakaways. Not an encouraging sign if his putative allies aren't backing his play publicly.
 
BEFORE: - Ukrainian government released video/audio and claimed Snake Island defenders fought to the death. - Russia claimed they surrendered, released video NOW: Ukrainian Ministry of Defense acknowledges they surrendered Minor in terms of war but has an impact on morale

I tried running his source through google translate. This mentions Russian media made a claim about where the people (bodies?) are which is clipped from the Twitter guy’s machine translation. I also see the Russian defense minister making the surrender claim.

Theory: I suspect the guy is using inaccurate machine translations of the border guard people and combining it with the claims of the Russian defense minister who the rumor mill confused with the Ukrainian defense minister to decide the people really are alive.

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