Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[mr.moon1488]

Arming random people can be an effective way to place stress on an occupying force.

lol not when you offer those people no guidance whatsoever, you know a fair number of them are criminals, and even you think half of them are "saboteurs."

 

[Henry Wyatt]

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It would be more on the nose only if they mentioned that they were also handicapped orphans.

justifying war crimes to own the libs

 

[NJBear]

Okay, serious question for military, poli-sci and historians.

IIRC, the Geneva convention has provisions that any actor aiding and abetting the enemy can legally be considered an enemy combatant?

If true and correct, then would that not apply to nations giving military aid and entities promoting propaganda? So NATO nations sending weapons. CNN, twitter etc.

 

[MelloYello]

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I assure you, the american infidels are committing mass-suicide at the gates of Baghdad.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

I mean this
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Its a really good idea against a superior force
And Ukraine is much much bigger

Soviet incompetence helps you a lot.

 

[Su-27 Flanker-B]

Take it with few grains (grams maybe) of salt.
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TWO HUNDRED RUSSIAN BOYS
ON AN UKRAINIAN FARM

lol no, it's obvious bullshit.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

I've come to not understand why separatist or secessionist regions of countries shouldn't be allowed to leave.

>"but muh treason!"

If they don't wanna be part of a certain country, it's their right to self-determination. The "host" country is not entitled to their loyalty. Calling separatists "traitors" is the behavior of an abusive BPD partner.

And the people there that want to stay?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Another situation of shills screaming genocide when if it is a genocide it is the slowest most inefficient genocide in history

Sometimes you got to boil your frogs /jk

But yes, not genocide. Just regular killing.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

I've come to not understand why separatist or secessionist regions of countries shouldn't be allowed to leave.

>"but muh treason!"

If they don't wanna be part of a certain country, it's their right to self-determination. The "host" country is not entitled to their loyalty. Calling separatists "traitors" is the behavior of an abusive BPD partner.

Eh, the land may be of national value. Maybe the national government has invested in that land, etc.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Actually how do you take over a country in the modern age, when the leaders can just hide half a world away and still vote for policies and manage internal affairs, and even the money is mainly virtual?

No electricity, no water. And you don't have to have a cop on every corner if the cops you do come by kill people and leave their bodies in the street. So basically with extreme brutality. The US failed because we fight like pussies

 

[A Logging Company]

Okay, serious question for military, poli-sci and historians.

IIRC, the Geneva convention has provisions that any actor aiding and abetting the enemy can legally be considered an enemy combatant?

If true and correct, then would that not apply to nations giving military aid and entities promoting propaganda? So NATO nations sending weapons. CNN, twitter etc.

No, because NATO are good people countries that support democracy and men who like to shove things up their asshole. They can do nothing wrong. Russia is bad people country, who hates men who shove things up their asshole, the only can do bad things.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Okay, I'm still 50 pages behind, I don't know if the speed of advance argument is still going on, and frankly I don't care. Anyone trying to compare this to the march on Baghdad would do well to look at a map.

(and yes, these are to scale)

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Now that I call retarted

"Self driving" Tesla Tanks when?

 

[ColtWalker1847]

I'm no internet military strategist, but arming your normie citizens and telling them to take on the Russian Army seems like kind of a bad idea.

It makes sense when you consider Russian supply lines are hundreds of miles across an unsecured countryside in soft-skinned vehicles.

The arms aren't for taking on infantry and mechanized units, they'd all die horribly in short order. The idea is to arm a bunch of irregular bushwhackers to pepper convoys with hit-and-run tactics and impede the flow of fuel, ammo, and materiel to the front. This kind of warfare takes a lot of resources to fight and even then you really never defeat it when you are in injun territory. The more Russian troops dealing with that means fewer on the front.

That said. I don't think it will "win" the war.

 

[дядя Боря]

Yeah right because none of them have locators or phones to navigate with.
Cut the bullshit already.

may be in Moscow or wherever you are trolling from.

Have you had a chance to use cell service in Ukraine outside of major cities? I have, lol.

As to high tech military navigation shit, there are vydyas on the actual state of Russian Soviet comms, they would legit benefit to just order a bunch of cheap baofengs from aliexpress if they had the money.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

Okay, serious question for military, poli-sci and historians.

IIRC, the Geneva convention has provisions that any actor aiding and abetting the enemy can legally be considered an enemy combatant?

If true and correct, then would that not apply to nations giving military aid and entities promoting propaganda? So NATO nations sending weapons. CNN, twitter etc.

The Geneva convention only applies to anyone not "the West"

 

[DumbDude42]

Pretty much. If you control the land and can enforce your rule, who really cares what a government in exile says.

yeah at the end of the day laws or constitutions are only as strong as the number of people willing to fight for them.
once you win the war, you are the law. legal scholars might protest and maintain that the government in exile is legitimate, but what they say doesn't matter - when the chief of police, chief justice, secretary of state, army chief of staff, etc. all say that you are legitimate, then you are legitimate, period.

 

[Übertroon]

Rare photo of the entire Ukrainian army on the move

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Take it with few grains (grams maybe) of salt.
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It's being posted by Ukraine. On Twitter.

I'm going to need a bucket.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone here believe the narrative of Ukraine carrying out genocide against ethnic Russians?

Idk, I know you guys have actual nazis as far back to the 1940s but I can see that as more you all joined up with the enemy of my enemy is my friend, whether they want to ethnic cleanse Russians out of Ukraine idk.