Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
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Why would anyone choose Russia's shitty knockoff? Why the hell would China use Russia's knockoff for that matter when it's trying to make inroads in western and African nations? The West uses SWIFT. If you want to transfer money with Germany, you use Swift, or you get fucked. Germany isn't going to accept a system made expressly by their enemy Russia, a violent (currently) invading dictatorship, when SWIFT gets them by just fine.
U mad Jimmy? Why u mad Jimmy? Russians won't come over to California.

OR WILL THEY?
 
...wtf. Why Slovenia? It's nowhere near Russia.

On another note, I know this has sort of been asked, but where exactly is the Russian State News on all this? Do the Russians not have war correspondents?
From what I know Russian state news is actively trying to avoid acknowledging that Russian troops are invading all of Ukraine. They're focusing hard on Donbass (which has been the least active front) and trying to paint an impression that they are only being opposed by paramilitaries and "bandits" rather than the Ukrainian military.

And no, it's not because they're embarassed. It's because they want to continue making this look like a peacekeeping intervention as much as possible.
 
What's the over/under on Sleepy Joe putting American boots on the ground in Ukraine?

I would have said highly unlikely last week. But the US media is rousing the villagers; into a war frenzy.
They could start gathering with pitchforks and torches to burn everything down soon.
The thing about this particular situation is that it can get totally out of hand in a hurry. And the Biden
Administration is a collection of truly stupid and incompetent people at every level.

There are no adults in the room. The ship has nobody at the wheel. And the icebergs are ahead.

I could see them at this point making a decision to blow shit up in Russia. To basically systematically
destroy their air defense and their civilian infrastructure. It would appear to be a low-risk option to
the people in the room. They would convince themselves that it was the safe and cheap option
compared to a ground war.

Putin's invasion of Ukraine was totally irrational IMO and against the country's own interests.
But he did it anyway. Last week at the airport, I watched someone get into a fight across the
counter at a mcdonalds over burger toppings. Everyone post-COVID is crazy and nothing
is beyond imagining anymore.

We are all doomed.
 
While the Russians are keeping up OPSEC, Donetsk People's Militia has no such worries. These guys stopped to do a photo-op at Starognativka, north of Mariupol. This also means that the Donetsk Militia has been able to advance after initial difficulties.

Supposedly they also found another Right-Sector hideout.
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I looked up that place, what the fuck is this coat of arms?
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Dont get why you would be smug about a country being forced to use alternatives to the corrupt global financial system, but this could be trouble in the future. If Russia makes a competing system to SWIFT then the entire (current) global financial system just got in trouble, because now there is an alternative for everyone who cant/does not want to use SWIFT. This would make "Banning someone from SWIFT" an order of magnitude less effective as a threat/sanction, including for Russia itself that now also gets to control the competitor to Swift.
Its not exactly unrealistic to assume that China and Russia could work together on such an alternative financial system.

That would be "bad" to put it carefully for the US and fellow western banking Globohomo in general. Its short term effective,
but its not the Russia "own" you think it is long-medium term.
Not that any of this would be bad imo, Globohomos Financial system is kinda fucked anyways if you have not noticed prices for everything constantly increasing.
Its just that that would qualify as a realistic Western, including American and European SHTF scenario depending on how badly our western-led global financial system would react to real competition from Chink-o-rubels .
Yeah there's an alternative system if you're cool with doing your business exclusively through Russian and Chinese banks. The overwhelming majority of people aren't.

I mean look China isn't going to abandon all the business it does through SWIFT for some new system that doesn't have access to the banks SWIFT does, and Russia has the GDP of Italy. They aren't gonna do jack to shake the Western owned global financial system

17 years later I'm still waiting for that Iranian oil bourse that wasn't going to allow transactions in dollars and it was totally gonna destroy the petrodollar and bring down the American Empire guys. I remember all the sperging about that, hopium fantasies about the weakness and imminent demise of the West are entertaining at least
 
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Some of the Russian tactics don’t make much sense to me. I’m no master general but zerging your armored formations forward with no combined arms support and only the infantry you can carry in APCs or unprotected trucks until you reach your objective or run out of gas seems like a great way to have your columns picked off by irregular forces or Javelins. Plus there’s no point in reaching your objectives if you just show up isolated, outnumbered, and out of fuel. This isn’t touch football where the first Russian who touches the Ukrainian parliament in Kiev instantly wins the war for Putin. A spearhead only works if you have forces behind it to exploit the breakthrough.
 
As an european, sadly it is.
There is no European ethnicity, no European nation, therefore, the nations of Europe have only to concern themselves with defense of their own nation-states. This is a cultural sphere beyond you. Byzantine-Slavic civilization is not like the Romano-Germanic one.
 
"HI fellow Kiwis...dont you just hate it when those hecken NATORINOS use their own military? They'd give you the impression the gosh darn Russians are doing something wrong here when they've got the blood on their hands too! The Russians aren't perfect, sure, but you know what........".

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Now I am starting to believe this is turning into an absolute debacle for poor Vlad.

It always follows the same pattern.

Anti-neolib nation = Evil genociders who lie endlessly and only wackos take anything they say seriously
Pro-neolib nation = Innocent saints who can do nothing wrong and have no agenda whatsoever

Then once their politics separate from the neoliberal world, people see them for what they are while pretending to be shocked.

They are actually doing it. They are starting their own economic suicide over Ukraine. It took an edge-lord ex-KGB stooge, a senile boob and a literal comedian to start The West's decline. This day is a victory for every accelerationist under the sun holy shit.
It’s kind of amazing how easily sides can be led.
At least Null will be happy.
Ukrainian Yaoi femboy artists btfo in retaliation
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I mean, I feel like Putin is getting all the Internet exiles on his side with his moves.
 
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