Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Bananadana]

Spoiler: #PutinIsHitler

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>Be born Ukranian
>Join Bootleg SS because AustrianManBad didnt kill enough Russians
>get shot at and plunge country into chaos just for the questionable bragging rights of being an "SS larper who kills many Russians" like daddy Adolf would have done.
<Western MSM calls your enemy (who mentioned that he is going to "De-Nazify" your shit) literally Hitler because he is invading your country.
Honestly what the fuck?

 

[Mukhrani]

Good foresight but my boy is wrong on one count:

It is absolutely in our interest for Russia to get bogged down in a Ukraine conflict that taxes their resources, gives us a reason to restrict their economic activity and further destabilizes their society. This is in our interest if you come to the equation with the perspective that Russia is a rival-enemy of our country and that we should look for every viable opportunity to wipe our dicks in their faces and to further cement our place above them.

No it isn't, because it drives them into the arms of China. Because of Russia's demographics, they will never pose half the threat that China does to US hegemony. Russia will be a third rate power for the foreseeable future, and if we want to stay on top of the pile we have to drive a wedge between them and China, giving Russia a pat on the head and some cookies every once in a while to keep them more on our side than on that of the Chinese. That means respecting their paranoia and letting them make oodles of money in Europe while the buffer states in Eastern Europe remain neutered and neutral. By sponsoring a coup on their doorstep and putting ever-deepening sanctions on them we have made them increasingly reliant on the only economically well-positioned nation with the wherewithal to ignore sanctions: the Chinese. It also makes us look incompetent to important Asian allies; we've egged Ukraine on and now don't have their back. What kind of message does that send to Japan, SK, or Taiwan, who all rely on our security umbrella and are crucial members of a balancing coalition against China?

 

[Invoke-Mimikatz]

With China and maybe India being buyers of last resort for Russia, they are going to clean them out.

 

[AnonAutismo]

The sheer impatience and complete lack of comprehension is what gets me. "The Russians haven't taken Ukraine in 30 minutes, they must have lost". The same brainlet take 100 times when nobody has a single shred of verifiable info about the ground situation or Russian goals.

Comes down to two reasons:
1. People’s collective attention spans and memory have been so fried by mass media to the point where the fact that this is in the news for almost a week is a shock to their system.
2. The propaganda system is running overdrive for Ukraine right now, to the point where anything that can be spun in even a remotely positive light for them is done so. Negative news is simply memory holed and ignored.

I expect that if Russia manages to win in the next few weeks a lot of these people are going to be genuinely shocked and dumbstruck, although an ignorant few will keep on believing the official narrative about how Ukraine bravely held out against all odds against big bad Russia.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The narrative I’ve been seeing some people push on social media is that the US putting boots on the ground in Ukraine would help stop Putin.

I mean what's stopping those people from going themselves? Oh that's right, because they don't die in pointless wars, rednecks from flyover states do.

Fuck them, anyone says that to me, I demand to know when they're enlisting; if not, I them them to fuck off. I have no patience for that shit anymore.

 

[The 3rd Hooligan]

Remember, sanctions didn't topple Saddam Hussein. Dubya's boot right on the face did. All it did, however, was keep the average Iraqi poor and wallowing in poverty while the Iraqi elite sat pretty (sounds familiar?)

If anything it even more discourages public from trying to do anything.

Why would you spend time trying to topple your tyranny while you have to worry about your baby having to drink water down formula africa style?

If anything the bullshit sanctions (not all of them, just not thought over ones aiming at general populace, although case can be made that those are all of them) just help to keep more quiet on streets now but more importantly in future.

Best case? Hurt Oligarchs. Make them force Putin hand. Or cut it off.

 

[JambledUpWords]

>Be born Ukranian
>Join Bootleg SS because AustrianManBad didnt kill enough Russians
>get shot at and plunge country into chaos just for the questionable bragging rights of being an "SS larper who kills many Russians" like daddy Adolf would have done.
<Western MSM calls your enemy (who mentioned that he is going to "De-Nazify" your shit) literally Hitler because he is invading your country.
Honestly what the fuck?

Most people aren’t aware of the actual Nazis in Ukraine, let alone the tense relationship Ukraine and Russia have had for decades. To them, it’s “Russia invades Ukraine, this is just like Hitler invading Poland.” Most probably can’t answer why WWII happened after Hitler invaded Poland (because Austria and other nations got invaded way before Poland did, Poland just broke the pact set by the League of Nations).

 

[BradCarter]

I mean what's stopping those people from going themselves? Oh that's right, because they don't die in pointless wars, rednecks from flyover states do.

Fuck them, anyone says that to me, I demand to know when they're enlisting; if not, I them them to fuck off. I have no patience for that shit anymore.

Id fully support our govt offering free flights to Poland for any brave volunteers. I'll gladly pay extra taxes for that

 

[FightenGnome]

I get that Lil Rubio is a big deal in the Senate Intelligence Committee but... it's Lil Rubio. Anyone else think he likes the fact people are suddenly treating him as a reliable source on Ukraine news? (tweet)
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I hate the moral preening from the most immoral people on the planet.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

You do realise there are civvies in russia right?

Ones that putin wouldnt give a fuck about in any case. That just want this shit to be over? Im sorry but this feels the same like the twatter asking all wrongthinkers be cut off.
Priority in sanctions should be Putin and Oligarchs. Not old babushkas and every already struggling non combatant adult

When a shitty leader comes to power it is the people’s duty to remove that leader or face the consequences of their inactions.

 

[Hackallier]

Russians driving in Kharkiv outskirts

 

[FightenGnome]

When a shitty leader comes to power it is the people’s duty to remove that leader or face the consequences of their inactions.

So when are you going to be taking out Biden?

 

[Weeby Catto]

Uh, they are. Germany is 50% or more reliant on Russian gas. Trump told them as much and they mocked him. If Europe was more energy independent these sanctions would have meaning. They don't as Russia has all the resource and energy power the EU needs. Once EU citizens, not Russians, begin paying more for gas, electricity, and everything as the cost of living goes up, their dominion is going to crack like an egg.

The SWIFT decision, again, means nothing. Russian oligarchs aren't even Russian; they are all Jewish. So they'll all be cozying up in Tel Aviv with their funds when things blow up or over. Russia has prepared for this and China has already indicated it is willing to work with them every step of the way.

NATO has been told for decades to leave Ukraine as a neutral state, but under US leadership it has kept encroaching closer and closer to drag Russia into a war. This is not me sucking Russia's cock, this is history and fact.

They are? They are what? They are reliant on Russian gas? Never said they didn't, you are making up your own arguments in your head.

You learn Germany relies on their gas from Trump? Germany knew it themselves. Which was why they were reluctant at first, but the world is round and there are other methods to obtain gas & stuffs. Which is why decisions are changing.

SWIFT means nothing as much as Nato's defending Ukraine means nothing.... which means something. Which is why Putin has to throw a threat out there right? SWIFT was the clutch for Putin to hold them ransom. Stop thinking putin is playing 4D chess, his motives aren't brilliant, it's as transparent as his ego. If he were so smart, he'd ended the war already.

China ain't buddies with Russian, they just see them as another customer to fatten their pockets, and Russian would be dumb if they didn't realize that that wouldn't make them China's bitch after they are sanctioned to hell and back.

At the end of the day, Russia loses for everyday Ukraine is still standing. And when they have crushed Ukraine, they will be crippled with sanctions and their economies plunge even backwards. Then the next natural step is becoming China's bitch.

Putin's hope was going in, Ukraine surrender before Nato can come up with significant sanctions, and now Ukraine is part of Russia just like Crimea, and everyone back to business. That will show his big dick. Not fighting the entire Ukraine fighting him and inheriting a broken country with Russia being sanctioned with literally everything. But at this rate he can't back out, because that will only exposes his small dick.

 

[BradCarter]

So when are you going to be taking out Biden in Minecraft?

Ftfy

 

[Shrek]

Comes down to two reasons:
1. People’s collective attention spans and memory have been so fried by mass media to the point where the fact that this is in the news for almost a week is a shock to their system.
2. The propaganda system is running overdrive for Ukraine right now, to the point where anything that can be spun in even a remotely positive light for them is done so. Negative news is simply memory holed and ignored.

I expect that if Russia manages to win in the next few weeks a lot of these people are going to be genuinely shocked and dumbstruck, although an ignorant few will keep on believing the official narrative about how Ukraine bravely held out against all odds against big bad Russia.

I mean to be fair Ukraine is handling this way better than most expected. But I agree a lot of normies are suffering from brain rot and the current narrative would make them shocked that Russia won as opposed to more of a "well Ukraine gave it their best".
At the end of the day though I'll still be probably delusional about the Russian offensive stalling and Putin declaring victory because reasons and pulling out.
Either way if the Ruskies make it into Kiev it's going to be Fallujah on fucking crack.

 

[God of Nothing]

>Be born Ukranian
>Join Bootleg SS because AustrianManBad didnt kill enough Russians
>get shot at and plunge country into chaos just for the questionable bragging rights of being an "SS larper who kills many Russians" like daddy Adolf would have done.
<Western MSM calls your enemy (who mentioned that he is going to "De-Nazify" your shit) literally Hitler because he is invading your country.
Honestly what the fuck?

Ukraine might be a little retarded. No worries, there won't be any retardation or much else of Ukraine after this.

 

[Breadbassket]

Soldiers of the "Sparta" battalion (DPR) with a captured Ukrainian armored car "Cossack 2"​

 

[Strix454]

>Be born Ukranian
>Join Bootleg SS because AustrianManBad didnt kill enough Russians
>get shot at and plunge country into chaos just for the questionable bragging rights of being an "SS larper who kills many Russians" like daddy Adolf would have done.
<Western MSM calls your enemy (who mentioned that he is going to "De-Nazify" your shit) literally Hitler because he is invading your country.
Honestly what the fuck?

Every great enemy of the United States since World War II has been "new Hitler". New Hitler has become a secular devil that we must
all always unite to destroy.

If we don't fight him, the camps will be open again within weeks.

If we negotiate with him, it can only lead to a "Munich".

Any attempt to promote neutrality is "isolationism" which makes you Nazi Charles Lindburg and will lead to New Hitler marching into Paris

Since he is "New Hitler", any means of fighting in him are allowed. Law/morality/sense all go out the window because we are fighting New Hitler

The defeat of "new Hitler" is always followed by "denazification" where the defeated people are taught how to be good people.

We have all be united against "New Hitler" because anyone is isn't united in the effort is a freakin nazi.

It worked for Saddam Huessien then. It works for Putin now.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

This is what Ukraine wants you to believe

Russian losses as of now, Ukrainian data:
- Over 540 IFVs
- 16 airplanes
- 18 helicopters
- 102 tanks
- 504 APCs
- 1 Buk-1 system
- Over 20 armored cars
- Over 3,000 manpower KIA, 200 taken prisoner

 

[Mr Bunny]

Everyone who says that the Russians are gonna put a slav in the concatenation camp instead of gulag is proof to me the Soviets won the cold war, as no motherfucker fully understand how evil that empire was.