Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Duke Nukem said:
Which faction? Better spray over that Z marking at least.

This is a joke, right?

Hurr durr who cares about the Russian side they vodka fagets #YooCraneHashtag

Seriously I'm amazed that Big Tech hasn't banned Russian users yet, I heard some 3D software thing canceled everyone's licenses because of this shit.
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Ukrainian gypsies, Russian tank, Kherson region
 
Sprawy Handlowe PPHU said:
Holly shit, what a mess.

Lets point some things out:

1. Putin was so sure that this war will be a piece of cake that he didn't prepare for a war longer than couple of weeks.
2. Also, the russian invasion army was so fuckin small - what they was thinking, that they will beat up a heavily militarized country with 40 000 000 population with circa 200 000 troops? Really?
3. Also, Russians are not learning on own mistakes - as usual, they are trying to take a city (full of light infantry with anti-tank personal gun) only with unsupported tanks. This shit din't work in Grozny '94 (funfact: many of Ukrainian far-right fanatics from UNA-UNSO was fighting side by side with muslim extremists in that battle), and will not work in ANY city where is placed few guys with light rockets.

They also didn't think that west will support Ukraine in any way. NATO probably is secretly threating Russia with using force if any russian land units will be present in west Ukraine. And probably Russians have this on mind - well, they prepared pretty big force in Belarus with the aim to go on west Ukraine on general direction of Lviv, and from some reasons they didn't move on that part of border. Guess why?

Also, probably NATO will start using force in some way (e.g. no-fly zone west of Dnieper) if the war will not be ended by ceasefire in next week.

And yes, before war I was beting that Putin will not attack Ukraine - because as we see Russia have not enough force to conduct this war or to win it. Idea of getting 200 000 soldiers with shitty tanks and going into Ukraine was so stupid, and I was thinking that Russians are smart enough to see that and not starting a fire in their own house. Well... last tsar was also pretty stupid, and started war with no chance for victory. Perhaps Putin is more like Nicholas II.
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Let's point some things out.

1) I stop reading when the first point proclaims your ability to read minds.


LARP On
 
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make_it_so said:
From what I understand, what he's actually said is more along the lines of "Anyone who doesn't lament the fall of the Soviet Union has no heart, anyone who wants to recreate the Soviet Union has no brain."
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... Well, guess what.
 
Getting tard comed said:
It doesn't have to be one of the driving factors. Nobody said it was. That's a really weird rebuttal imo. We know his driving factors, if these labs existed and they did attack them on the way why would you tell the world information that you can use a) for yourself to use or b) as blackmail negotiating material?
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Your argument was that it all the locations of these labs was "that they were the first places Russia attacked", which would suggest that they were of such critical importance that they dictated where the entire invasion was going to take place on the first day and set-up the rest of the war basically. That's attributing a lot of importance to something.

You can find a bunch of stuff they've published openly here:

Repository of Kharkiv National Medical University: Поиск

repo.knmu.edu.ua repo.knmu.edu.ua

Of-which one example is this, frankly doesn't look that interesting really unless your a biologist or a statistician.

Calling something a "biolab" makes it sound way scary and more sinister than it is.
 
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ABSOLUTE HAPPENING: RUSSIA IS DEPLOYING IT'S SPECIAL UNITS
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Terra Pax said:
Your argument was that it all the locations of these labs was "that they were the first places Russia attacked", which would suggest that they were of such critical importance that they dictated where the entire invasion was going to take place on the first day and set-up the rest of the war basically. That's attributing a lot of importance to something.

You can find a bunch of stuff they've published openly here:

Repository of Kharkiv National Medical University: Поиск

repo.knmu.edu.ua repo.knmu.edu.ua

Of-which one example is this, frankly doesn't look that interesting really unless your a biologist or a statistician.

Calling something a "biolab" makes it sound way scary and more sinister than it is.
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I appreciate you doing all of the work for me because I'm a lazy faggot, thank you.
 
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HumanHive said:
Russia has all the advantages
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I'm not so sure.

Russia had no allies - China isn't a friend of Moscow even if it acts friendly, and already they stolen Kazakhstan.. Kazakhstan refused to support russian invasion because that. On side of Russia is only on this moment Belarus (and they have always hard times to maintain their own safety) and maybye Armenia (yeah, a powerfull ally between two higly agressive against Russia muslim countries).

They have some advantage in numbers, but this is going down with every day of war. They will have over 30-40 thousands of KIA after this war (on this moment they already have more than 3000 KIA) and probably will nto be able to face threat from EU countries - they are rapidly going into agressive behaviour (Germany already announced that they will invest really big cash into own military).

Russia has on this moment only two options:

- retrat to own borders after ceasefire and start "new cold war"
- go into war on full speed and quickly be fucked off by west countries.

No third option. Even if he will conquer all of Ukraine he will have military with giant damage and a very agressive nation to occupy. Also partisans will be supported by west countries.

No one is also sure, that this choice will be done by Putin. Russian generals aren't stupid enough to go to death.
 
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Dont believe the bullshit...russia is winning but they are taking some significant losses because javelins are everywhere.


I debated someone on here but the usefullness of tanks in future warfare. This should settle the debate permanenty...heavy expensive tanks dont seem to have much of a role here
 
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Vaclav said:
If this is accurate, along with the Volkssturm stuff it'll plunge Ukraine into total chaos. Unless they have officers constantly holding guns to the back of their heads, the penal battalions are likely to desert and become marauding gangs, robbing the population. Russia may win hearts and minds in Ukraine simply by promising to restore order - no more lynch mobs killing "saboteurs," no more rampaging ex-cons with rifles, etc.
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This is worse than Volkssturm, this is borderline Oskar Dirlewanger shit. Oskar himself was a sadistic alcoholic with bizarre sexual tastes and a history of violent behavior. And letting out Not-Russia's worst rapists, murderers, domestic abusers, and crackheads in the hope that they'll push out the vodka monkeys?

Great plan.

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Fougaro said:
>(...) prisoners are being released on masse from prisons who promised that they would "fight Russian aggression."
Massive warcrime kino incoming if true.
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Vaclav said:
If this is accurate, along with the Volkssturm stuff it'll plunge Ukraine into total chaos. Unless they have officers constantly holding guns to the back of their heads, the penal battalions are likely to desert and become marauding gangs, robbing the population. Russia may win hearts and minds in Ukraine simply by promising to restore order - no more lynch mobs killing "saboteurs," no more rampaging ex-cons with rifles, etc.
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Duke Nukem said:
This is worse than Volkssturm, this is borderline Oskar Dirlewanger shit. Oskar himself was a sadistic alcoholic with bizarre sexual tastes and a history of violent behavior. And letting out Not-Russia's worst rapists, murderers, domestic abusers, and crackheads in the hope that they'll push out the vodka monkeys?

Great plan.

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Andrei Sinyuk has been dead since 2019. Looks like another hoax. https://www.tellerreport.com/news/-...the-case-file-on-the-"maidan"-.Hk1X3qyB4.html
 
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