Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Simpadoo]

Oh, boy, if only you read at least at the official news sources from Ukraine for the last 7 years, it would be like reading a diary of a madman.

I would hate to fight a madman, TBH.

 

[Dave_Ph]

This is worse than Volkssturm, this is borderline Oskar Dirlewanger shit. Oskar himself was a sadistic alcoholic with bizarre sexual tastes and a history of violent behavior. And letting out Not-Russia's worst rapists, murderers, domestic abusers, and crackheads in the hope that they'll push out the vodka monkeys?

Great plan.

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Its working in San Francisco

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

People really are gonna be surprised when Ukraine falls.

No, they won’t. They’ll be told that it hasn’t REALLY fallen, and they’ll believe it. They’ll believe it because they WANT to believe it.

 

[BradCarter]

What a bunch of niggers, everyone in charge of social media has really bought into censorship will totally lead to world peace or utopia.

To be fair it's owned by a Russian. It wouldn't surprise anyone if the Russian govt was leaning on him to get retarded conscripts to stop revealing military locations

 

[Getting tard comed]

Your argument was that it all the locations of these labs was "that they were the first places Russia attacked", which would suggest that they were of such critical importance that they dictated where the entire invasion was going to take place on the first day and set-up the rest of the war basically. That's attributing a lot of importance to something.

You can find a bunch of stuff they've published openly here:

Repository of Kharkiv National Medical University: Поиск

repo.knmu.edu.ua

Of-which one example is this, frankly doesn't look that interesting really unless your a biologist or a statistician.

http://repo.knmu.edu.ua/bitstream/123456789/19735/1/5.pdf

Calling something a "biolab" makes it sound way scary and more sinister than it is.

No.. it doesn't. What I said was "There wasn't any chatter on here on how the lab locations and the places Russia attacked first lined up" because that's interesting to me if true.

And as someone said those labs would have a procedure to DFE so they would have to be one of the places first hit to get anything you could before that process was complete. I didn't think that had to be explained. That doesn't mean it was a "driving factor" for the attack. I don't even think that's a plausible inference to make. It would be like saying the Russians invaded Ukraine to take over Chernobyl because it was one of the first places attacked. That's a silly argument and nobody would make it and nobody has. You take over Chernobyl first because it's an important location. Same with any hypothetical labs. That's not the reason you invade another country.

I can't tell if you honestly got this from what I said or if you're trying to win internet points.

I'm going to ignore the idea that you think showing me a public press release of a study the lab released itself is proof that they wouldn't or couldn't be doing anything else potentially illegal pr sinister. Because even if they aren't and everything is kosher you can't be so dumb as to think if anybody was doing something illicit they would release it for public knowledge.

 

[Mr Bunny]

No, they won’t. They’ll be told that it hasn’t REALLY fallen, and they’ll believe it. They’ll believe it because they WANT to believe it.

Iraq never fell to the Americans I am told. Bob would never lie to me.

 

[TapewormSalesman]

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1497953549900447750

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Oh no Why didn't they get her out of there

 

[Aib Ld]

Is actual nukes bring primed, or is this fog of war as usual? I don't even get it because Putin's goal is acquiring Ukraine and making it a puppet country. How do that when its gone or fallout radiation is blasted so high its unhabitable? There's also Chernobyl there.

 

[Dave_Ph]

The fact that it correlates to where Russia invaded; as if that was the driving factor of the Russian invasion plan. They're part of something called the Biological Threat Reduction Programme which has existed for a long time and has operations in multiple countries across the world, including having helped the immediate post-USSR Russia with their own facilities.

Looking Back at the Biological Threat Reduction Program Through the Decades - Global Biodefense

This year marks three decades of collaboration spearheaded by the Department of Defense Cooperative Threat Reduction Program with foreign partners to

globalbiodefense.com

Also, since when does the US Government suddenly care about their own regulations and conducting illegal operations on their own soil? The US Government has numerous facilities in the United States for this kind of work, and they're all large, secured, facilities with large workforces because that's how you run a giant scientific research complex.

Maybe the Russians invaded that city Kharkiv right on their border because it's the second largest city in Ukraine? Along with all those map markers in the south immediately north of Crimea. Maruipol doesn't have a biolab apparently yet they went straight for it because it has strategic importance.

Also, if it was the reason - I think that Putin would have just said so.

Now tell me about the UN/NWO troops who seized control of Canada last week

 

[apolloday]

Modern day fog of war is just the stench cloud of millions of fat, unwashed Internet cretins furiously regurgitating whatever propaganda tickles their bias

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

If Russia keeps going and manages to just wipe out Ukraine's forces, it makes me wonder how retards that believe this propaganda would react.

As someone who doesn't believe this propaganda one bit, I wonder what the opposite would hold for us.

Truthfully, I'd assume they sent in mercenaries to pose as poor Ukranian citizens.

 

[Get Fisted]

Is actual nukes bring primed, or is this fog of war as usual? I don't even get it because Putin's goal is acquiring Ukraine and making it a puppet country. How do that when its gone or fallout radiation is blasted so high its unhabitable? There's also Chernobyl there.

The assumption I'm making is, since there's talks of sitting down with both sides, Russia's taking the "Well they decided to kill us at the peace talks, might as well turn everyone into sand," approach.

 

[BradCarter]

No.. it doesn't. What I said was "There wasn't any chatter on here on how the lab locations and the places Russia attacked first lined up" because that's interesting to me if true.

And as someone said those labs would have a procedure to DFE so they would have to be one of the places first hit to get anything you could before that process was complete. I didn't think that had to be explained. That doesn't mean it was a "driving factor" for the attack. I don't even think that's a plausible inference to make. It would be like saying the Russians invaded Ukraine to take over Chernobyl because it was one of the first places attacked. That's a silly argument and nobody would make it and nobody has. You take over Chernobyl first because it's an important location. Same with any hypothetical labs. That's not the reason you invade another country.

I can't tell if you honestly got this from what I said or if you're trying to win internet points.

I'm going to ignore the idea that you think showing me a public press release of a study the lab released itself is proof that they wouldn't or couldn't be doing anything else potentially illegal pr sinister. Because even if they aren't and everything is kosher you can't be so dumb as to think if anybody was doing something illicit they would release it for public knowledge.

The Russians are attempting to take most major cities, especially ones with airports. Would you like to guess where the best place for high-tech research labs would be? Correlation doesn't equate to causation.

 

[ShittlerNiggler]

People really are gonna be surprised when Ukraine falls.

The Ukraine probably won't fall, in the worst case for it, it would turn irrelevant or get a pro-russian government

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Iraq never fell to the Americans I am told. Bob would never lie to me.

That was almost 20 years ago, and the “good guy/bad guy” roles are reversed as far as the Ruling Class in the West is concerned.

 

[Getting tard comed]

Is actual nukes bring primed, or is this fog of war as usual? I don't even get it because Putin's goal is acquiring Ukraine and making it a puppet country. How do that when its gone or fallout radiation is blasted so high its unhabitable? There's also Chernobyl there.

Am I missing something.. Putin said nuclear deterrents were being set up. Are the only deterrents other nukes? Is that why people are acting like he said he's ready to launch one? Is this fearmongering from the media? That word means the opposite of how people are taking it.

 

[WinchesterPremium]

I debated someone on here but the usefullness of tanks in future warfare. This should settle the debate permanenty...heavy expensive tanks dont seem to have much of a role here

Not really. With a few upgrades like a CIWS style interceptor or laser system things could turn around really quickly.

 

[WinchesterPremium]

Am I missing something.. Putin said nuclear deterrents were being set up. Are the only deterrents other nukes? Is that why people are acting like he said he's ready to launch one? Is this fearmongering from the media? That word means the opposite of how people are taking it.

Nuclear deterrent means nukes.

Legitimate question are you like 13? I feel like voting age adults should know simple phrases like this.

 

[borsabil]

Then why wouldn't Putin just say so. If this was one of the driving factors? What's his reason for not exposing? Since it could be very easily spun into obviously good rhetoric about NATO using ethnic Russians and Ukrainians as a dumping ground for their research.

Now lets be clear all of the labs listed in the reports are real and the funding documents are also legit.

Publicly these are medical laboratories which conduct research on pressing public health issues like Covid 19 testing, childhood immunisation etc.

All perfectly above board, the US government pumping money into the Ukrainian public health system is just a sign of their well known altruism... except why the fuck is the United States Department of Defense giving out these grants and why the holy fuck is the DoD issuing these grants on condition of transfer of custody and ownership of IP?

As to why Putin isn't calling them out? Well he has. When the Russians state publicly that they view Ukraine's developing military capabilities as an existential threat to their existence they are obviously not referring to the conventional armed forces in that country. As to why he hasn't called them on it explicitly? Probably 2 reasons. First what would be the point? He'd be painted as a crazy liar by the western media. A Q-anon tier lolcow. Second admitting that he'd allowed WMD research to go on right next to the motherland for years and did fuck all to stop it makes him look weak to his own people.

I'm not claiming that this was the only reason for the invasion but it certainly was a reason.

If the Ukrainians crack and decide to do a deal with the bear you can expect to see a spergout to end all spergouts from the burgers. There is no expectation that the Ukrainians can even slow the Russians down but the there is an expectation that they will perform their designated role of dying in large numbers for a western audience.

 

[naffatune]

Soldiers in Kiev drop a civilian (link). They're most likely Ukrainian militia given their clothing and the fact that they proudly took a photo of the guy on the ground, probably suspecting that he was a saboteur.

Also, here's a Ukie in Berdyansk carrying a landmine he found under a bridge (link).

Alrighty. Time to document some reality, if you catch my drift.

Spoiler: death

Dead Russians in Irpen (link)