Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Get Fisted]

Nigger even the mob tried to warn you about 9/11

The mob can travel fucking time, too? HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN DO THIS FUCKING SHIT

 

[Dave_Ph]

I love that it's "Putin", not Russia.
Clearly another case where the population all love America and all they need is a little regime change. Iraq anyone?

Pelosi is invoking the Sudetenlanf and McCarthy is calling Brandon Nevil Chamberlin.

You know what sucks about Florida. We can't build underground bomb shelters in the back yard.

 

[Strix454]

Work on your English a bit, Chang.

Taiwan may not be mainland China, but it's still economically significant. The main reason the US, France, and Britain were so keen to give Taipei's seat to Beijing is because they were working very hard at the time to drive a wedge between the Soviet Union and China to keep them from being a united communist bloc, which they largely succeeded at doing.

They didn't need to drive a wedge. Before the decision, the Soviet Union and China has nearly gone to war with each other. They were literally shooting at each other in 1969.

 

[Su-27 Flanker-B]

If he's han chinese then he's the biggest mutt in the universe: they got raped halfway to death by mongols, japanese, jurchen, manchus, etc

Not going to powerlevel, but I'm from central europe.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

You know what sucks about Florida. We can't build underground bomb shelters in the back yard.

Just jump in a sinkhole, you'll find Narnia!

 

[borsabil]

I posted this in A&N but please forgive cross-posting. Maybe should have been here all along.

I'm trying to figure out Putin's behaviour. He has never appeared a fool to me, quite the contrary. But current course seems reckless at best, a catastrophic error quite probably. I think his attempt to capture Kiev is an attempt to put himself in a strong bargaining position before negotiations begin. Then he can fall back to the breakaway regions and take them under Russia's wing for evermore. When haggling, you always ask for more than you're willing to settle for or you don't even get that. This is what I think he wants to achieve. And if so then he likely thinks Russian forces can capture Kiev before negotiations begin. But, I could be wrong - maybe he wants the whole country. I don't know what Ukraine's forces and distribution are like - it may be that if he can capture Kiev and if the bulk of the Ukranian forces are isolated and cut off in the South like someone suggested last night, perhaps he thinks he can roll up the rest of the country once Kiev is occupied. But, the former goal seems more rational to me.

All of the above what I think Putin's game plan is, not necessarily what I think will work or how it will play out.

The deeper point is why go so far in the first place. I think Putin feels Russian sovreignty is genuinely under threat. We all speculate on these forums about "globohomo" and the globalist agenda is undeniable. It's also undeniable that there has been very aggressive economic and military pressure on Russia for a long time now. Whether that being US going all out on stopping Nordstream 2 or when they backed and formented the 2014 revolution that ousted the elected Ukranian govt. Or if it be encouraging Ukraine to be a "client state of the globalist agenda" as someone called it and raise NATO membership as a possibility. All of these things are real. The USA went pretty beserk when the Soviets started moving military forces into Cuba. And though it's surely largely a post-fact justification, Ukraine does have actual Nazis there (and not the "I believe there are two genders" kind) and around 14,000 people have died in the region's conflict in the last eight years or so.

My TL;DR of all this is that when you see someone acting irrationally or taking massive gambles, it's usually because they're desperate. It's in the endgame when you start trying desperate Hail Mary's. I'm not saying that the current course of action is right but I'm saying that the forces that have been encroaching on Russia are obviously real and that Putin's behaviour can perhaps be explained as a desperate gambit by a losing country player. What's the alternative? Slowly watch Russia collapse inward under Western backed NGOs, sanctions, fomented colour revolutions and missile bases on all sides? He's a Judo practitioner. He recognizes that the moment of defeat is when your opponent gets the lock on you, not when you actually pass out.

Because you're still allowing yourself to be swayed by the media psy-ops that we're swimming in.

Everything that's been reported in the west about the Ukraine is fake. Every uplifting story about beauty queens picking up AKs, brave pilots shooting down Ruski jets, newlyweds fighting together on the front lines, all of it is faked. The story about the Ukrainian doctor saying goodbye to his young son to go take up arms against the invader? Turns out he was an ethnic Russian from the Donbas about to go to the front to fight the Ukrainians. Western media give zero fucks about pumping out propaganda at the best of times for even trivial reasons. But now there is an actual war launched by the human being they despise the most? Gloves are off.

The Ukrainian President is currently holed up in a bunker in Lvov waiting for his transport to Dubai should the peace talks not go so well.

The Russians are currently surrounding every major strategic objective on their list and about to call in their actual army to finish things off should the peace talks not go well.

That;s what's actually happening right now. And no Putin isn't gambling, he isn't irrational, he's already won.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Uhhh

Russia’s VTB bank - the country’s second largest which is now under heavy sectioned - will raise interest rates for new mortgages by FOUR percentage points.

New mortgages will have an interest rate of 15.3%.

 

[Aib Ld]

Speaking of Ukraine, I remember seeing photos of people saying they're evacuating in the middle of the war. I don't really get why risk yourself out in the open being stuck in traffic and being an open target to missile debris, but why not go to a shelter first? I get they got surprised by Russia but I don't get the throught of "things are blowing up, traffic is an all-time high, better go outside and get stuck like them too". I know about how panicking can fuck humans up, but there has to be something in our minds that screamed how suicidal the person is for thinking that, but nope. The civilians just march straight out and get stuck in the battlefield.

 

[Granate37]

Its not easy. To do it, you need all the other permanent members of the Security Council to agree to it except the country in question. And you an alternative government to recognize as the real government of the country. An alternative government universally recognized by other countries. The situation of China in 1971 doesn't really apply to Russia. There are not two Russias and there is not some easy alternative that one could put at the UN.

But beyond that, if people want a shooting war with Russia, having UN approval to do it isn't going matter to the United States one way or the other. At this point if Biden decides to go to war, the United States is going to war. Nothing can stop it now.

Germany is the alternative.
But yes obviously china would say no.

 

[DwayneTheSockJohnson]

The mob can travel fucking time, too? HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN DO THIS FUCKING SHIT

911 people.

 

[IamnottheNSA]

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This timeline

Try reading this in Homestar Runner voice. That should alleviate the pain somewhat.

 

[Coccxys]

What I've learned from all of this is it is very easy to get people to go with "let's start world war 3" and somehow "nah let's not" becomes the edgy option.

 

[theshitposter]

Since putin is a judoka

 

[Doctor Placebo]

I love that it's "Putin", not Russia.
Clearly another case where the population all love America and all they need is a little regime change. Iraq anyone?

Pelosi is invoking the Sudetenlanf and McCarthy is calling Brandon Nevil Chamberlin.

You know what sucks about Florida. We can't build underground bomb shelters in the back yard.

Funny that you mention regime change, since that was probably one of Putin's major desired goals in The Ukraine. But it's not cool when he does it.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

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It’s over. Russia is now confirmed to beat Ukraine

I might be incorrect, but Afghanistan is mostly mountainous and Ukraine is flatter than Laura Brannigan, correct? Because that makes Jim Kramer's tweet useless.

 

[Henry V]

 

[Get Fisted]

911 people.

PARAMEDICS AND COPS ARE IN ON IT YOU FUCKING HEARD IT HERE FIRST EMERGENCY SERVICES CAN FUCKING TIME TRAVEL

 

[Dave_Ph]

Adding to the nuke list:
Denver, CO
Minneapolis
Seattle WA
Portland Oregon
Kansas City
Boise ID
Prolly all of Wisconsin too I guess fuck Wisconsin

Minneapolis
Seattle WA
Portland

I think its less about respect and more about avoiding needless Stalingrad-tier urban battles that completely annihilate whatever credibility your military had.

That or they don't have cool weapons with cameras on them

 

[WinchesterPremium]

Because you're still allowing yourself to be swayed by the media psy-ops that we're swimming in.

Everything that's been reported in the west about the Ukraine is fake. Every uplifting story about beauty queens picking up AKs, brave pilots shooting down Ruski jets, newlyweds fighting together on the front lines, all of it is faked. The story about the Ukrainian doctor saying goodbye to his young son to go take up arms against the invader? Turns out he was an ethnic Russian from the Donbas about to go to the front to fight the Ukrainians. Western media give zero fucks about pumping out propaganda at the best of times for even trivial reasons. But now there is an actual war launched by the human being they despise the most? Gloves are off.

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The Ukrainian President is currently holed up in a bunker in Lvov waiting for his transport to Dubai should the peace talks not go so well.

The Russians are currently surrounding every major strategic objective on their list and about to call in their actual army to finish things off should the peace talks not go well.

That;s what's actually happening right now. And no Putin isn't gambling, he isn't irrational, he's already won.

This is fake too.

Lying is warfare and everyone is lying to you. Believe nobody because everyone has something to gain from telling you something wrong.

 

[hooboy]

That;s what's actually happening right now. And no Putin isn't gambling, he isn't irrational, he's already won.

He’s wasting billions to poorly occupy a country that hates him and is sending his AIDs riddled shithole country into an even deeper economic depression; idk bros this seems like winning to me.