Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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RUSSIA GOOD

Surely you've read through the thread and realize this is more than a simplistic preschoolers "cops vs robbers" scenario?

 

[The Cunting Death]

I'm going to sleep now. See you tomorrow if I'm not vaporized. And I hope women will be fucking drafted because I totes want to shower with a horde of them like in Starship Troopers.

yeah no its either going to be ugly bitches or dykes

 

[smeckt]

This war is nothing compared to the war between Ukrainian and Nigerian prostitutes that will take place in cities across Western Europe this summer. Watch out for flying heals and fishnet traps

 

[The best and greatest]

He literally just gave a statement saying increasing oil production wasn’t gonna happen.

Guy come on you're not new here. What is the rule regarding politicians? Look at what they do not what they say.

 

[Richardface]

Occupy HOW? You either need a permissive government willing to do the heavy lifting, or you need hundreds of thousands of troops to do it yourself. Ukraine is the size of western Europe with a population of 40 million. Right now everyone in the country is shooting at Russia, including the local police which
are necessary for controlling the population. It soaked up hundreds of thousands of German Troops AND collaboration government for Germany to Occupy France. And France had a similar population with a fraction of the size. The entire story of the US War in Afghanistan and Iraq is the failure to Occupy, even with a collaborative government.

Russia doesn't even have that. Just 150,000 troops sitting outside the population centers absolutely seething while getting pot shots taken at them by Gopniks and Farmers while a hostile government continues to rally men to its banners.

The clock is really ticking for Russia now. It takes 4 weeks to train a competent Rifleman under war conditions. Russia has 30 days to end this.

Nah, this is not sand roach country, this is a European war between people who look and speak alike and agreements will be worked out. The "French Resistance" was a postwar creation to make the French feel better. If the Russians go for Galicia that will need a big garrison though, they are crazed mountain folk who hate Russians

Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast)

Berdyansk has come under full Russian control today, hearing from Ukrainian sources that Russians are mostly leaving local city administrations in place and negotiating with local police to keep the peace together with local pro-Russians, not leaving many soldiers behind

nitter.net

 

[Toothpaste]

Destroyed Ukrainian column near Sievierodonetsk.

Looks like the Ukrainians are moving out of their positions and are getting pummeled while on the roads. It really wasn't a good move to keep so many of your heavy units so far in the east.

Spoiler: Images

 

[ZMOT]

Bet you $1K in bitcoin he doesn't. ANY nuclear shit is the end of his country, if not the world.

he also pretty much said deterrent, I know with western educational standards it's hard to miss and everyone just read MUH NUCULAR, but it's not yet on the level of "I'm starting to push my button!!"

 

[Margo Martindale]

Crew footage from a Ukrainian T-64BV knocking out a Russian T-72

 

[Coccxys]

There isn't a good way to get it to China for that scheme to work.

They're already a major export partner with Russia being china's second largest source of crude.



The sanctions just mean China has less competition so can get a better deal and guaranteed some will be sold on probably as refined products to countries sanctioning Russia. China is the world's largest plastic producer.



Which means that the reddit and twitter consoomers are buying Russian oil indirectly every time they buy a funky.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Nah, this is not sand roach country, this is a European war between people who look and speak alike and agreements will be worked out. The "French Resistance" was a postwar creation to make the French feel better. If the Russians go for Galicia that will need a big garrison though, they are crazed mountain folk who hate Russians

Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast)

Berdyansk has come under full Russian control today, hearing from Ukrainian sources that Russians are mostly leaving local city administrations in place and negotiating with local police to keep the peace together with local pro-Russians, not leaving many soldiers behind

nitter.net

For all the memes about how Russia doesn't care about collateral and will just level everything because Chechnya, they've been restrained even by what you'd call Western standards. They seem to be going out of their way to not hurt or otherwise get into conflict with local civilians.

 

[BeautifulCancer]

Destroyed Ukrainian column near Sievierodonetsk.

Looks like the Ukrainians are moving out of their positions and are getting pummeled while on the roads. It really wasn't a good move to keep so many of your heavy units so far in the east.

Spoiler: Images

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Damn, it seems like Russia is not messing around anymore.

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

Trying to use a molotov on a tank or IFV seems like a good way to get killed and accomplish nothing.

Why aren't they holding "how to make an IED" workshops? How to set an ambush? How to make a radio jammer? How to disrupt IR signatures?

No, it's filling bottles full of gasoline that present more of a threat to the user than the enemy. Quite the larp.

It's frustrating because this is exactly the scenario for which US Army Special Forces was created. One of an Operational Detachment-Alpha's main missions is insertion (by airborne or other means) behind enemy (Soviet) lines, linking up with partisans, and training them to conduct irregular warfare covering the fundamental disciplines:
- Weapons training
- Small unit tactics
- Radio communications
- Demolitions and combat engineering
- Combat medicine

with an eye toward creating a self-replicating organization that will spread out and propagate that training to other partisans.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

We might have read different ones. The one I read actually talked about retooling the Marines to be less gung-ho, more professional, less 'toxic' and adding armor and artillery.

I'll have to see if I can find it.

Could be, what we read, are two of the competing proposals.

It seems so. The Marine commandant put out his proposal to remove tank divisions and most artillery so that the marines would specialize in island hopping again a few years ago. The department of the navy has been trying to retool its focus on the pacific for a while.

 

[The Other Baldwin]

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Yeah it's real.

"While you are commuting to the job that isn't open because of Covid-19, and a nuclear detonation occurs, you are going to die, because of Covid-19. Good luck out there, and make sure to wear your mask and social distance while you are being vaporized!"

 

[No_one]

Good news for ukranian refugees

Yeah, the government of Poland has declared that we are ready to take care of 1M-5M refugees from Ukraine. The government is spewing bullshit about giving them jobs, giving them places to live and taking Ukrainian children to our schools.

No, it's not going to happen because it is too hard to do.


While the Ukrainians have been coming to Poland since 2014 (like the Poles to the UK after the EU agreements), it was mostly normal people, who just want to make some money (+whores and drug dealers). The majority of Ukrainians have been okay. But I'm not sure that a surge like that will be beneficial for anyone.

 

[LikeRivenIRL]

Considering there was a mass movement of people in 2014 to remove themselves of their Russian puppet leader, I'm not entirely unsurprised civilians are getting in on the action. Also Eastern Europeans are just built different, as seen with the Great Patriotic War, etc. For some of these guys, it's an opportunity to claim that same sort of martial legacy, to stand up against an invader. Maybe one not nearly as awful as the Nazis as evidenced by Russian willingness to not target civilians. But nevertheless an invader.

I know a lot of the guys itt are calling the Zelensky arming of civilians some sort of attempt to frame up civilians in bad ways. But to me at least, it's sort of the opposite. I think he's trying to ensure that if shit does hit fan in Kyiv, and they end up losing, the fighting continues after his death. And it also divests organisation away from the military, and means civilians can act as partisans and give the Russians hell after Ukrainian regulars are forced to leave. It'll still get a lot of them killed though.

If I was in Ukraine right now, and I was a civilian or non-military, I'd want a fucking gun I tell ye.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Damn, it seems like Russia is not messing around anymore.

More like Russian forces finally got to the fight in the first place.

 

[Toothpaste]

You have to respect a guy who's willing to personally garrote people in their way. Not like these pussy ass career politicians who just order hits.

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Putin was a KGB lawyer working in an office. As far as we know, he never took part in any genuine intelligence operations.

Edit, Or, to be clear, did not personally, physically, take part in any "James Bond" type shit. Some of the papers he pushed and clipping he collected probably had some relevance to something.

 

[Mussi]

Occupy HOW? You either need a permissive government willing to do the heavy lifting, or you need hundreds of thousands of troops to do it yourself. Ukraine is the size of western Europe with a population of 40 million. Right now everyone in the country is shooting at Russia, including the local police which
are necessary for controlling the population. It soaked up hundreds of thousands of German Troops AND collaboration government for Germany to Occupy France. And France had a similar population with a fraction of the size. The entire story of the US War in Afghanistan and Iraq is the failure to Occupy, even with a collaborative government.

Russia doesn't even have that. Just 150,000 troops sitting outside the population centers absolutely seething while getting pot shots taken at them by Gopniks and Farmers while a hostile government continues to rally men to its banners.

The clock is really ticking for Russia now. It takes 4 weeks to train a competent Rifleman under war conditions. Russia has 30 days to end this.

What the fuck are you talking about? Ukraine is big and mostly flat outside of the west, it's completely unlike Afghanistan with an endless amount of mountains and valleys. Geographically, it's basically made to conquer and occupy. Russia has already managed to take a non-negligible amount of Ukraine while fighting the completely fresh Ukrainian army with a small fraction of their forces, why should occupying the rest while fighting against the Ukrainian army be impossible? Also, once Russia cuts off the east of the country, almost all of Ukraine's advanced military hardware will be as good as gone and there will be no way for western arms to reach the trapped soldiers.

Actually, the fact that you're citing the ability of Ukraine to train "a competent Rifleman" makes me think you might be a retard. Riflemen are useless without air and armored support in a modern war outside of guerrilla encounters which won't stop the Russian army from advancing. Based on the fact that Ukraine has chosen to give their stockpile of rifles to any citizen who asks without any training also implies that they will not be following your retarded strategy.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

It's frustrating because this is exactly the scenario for which US Army Special Forces was created. One of an Operational Detachment-Alpha's main missions is insertion (by airborne or other means) behind enemy (Soviet) lines, linking up with partisans, and training them to conduct irregular warfare covering the fundamental disciplines:
- Weapons training
- Small unit tactics
- Radio communications
- Demolitions and combat engineering
- Combat medicine

with an eye toward creating a self-replicating organization that will spread out and propagate that training to other partisans.

Remember, they don't do that any more.

They sell you sunglasses.