Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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>Russia's aggression is justifiable because NATO near border BAD
>You couldn't deflect rocket from Ukraine

Have any of you retards noticed that Estonia is much closer to Moskow, and it is NATO member for a long time?

All of this shit is going to drive Finland into NATO as well so we'll have a huge border in the north that edges right up to Saint Petersburg.
 
Russia doesn't want to annex Ukraine, at least Putler doesn't. He wants to take out the government, install a new one and leave, this includes the current moves they are making to encircle Ukrainian cities and the Ukrainian formations on the Donbas contact line so that they can be used to keep order when a new government is installed, one which Putin is hoping the Ukrainians can live with.

His speech indicated he thinks Ukraine is a mistaken Bolshevik invention and he aims to correct the error
 
I swear Russia shills really thinks this like EU 4 or Hearts of Iron. Hurr Durr, my division just entered this province/city unopposed. That means it's mine guys. Change the color on the map!

That is not how this works. Isolating enemy strong points may have worked with Island Hopping in the Pacific war, but it does not work in a pure land war. Soldiers need to eat. Their equipment needs fuel. They need ammunition. You can't just leave entire brigades of enemy soldiers behind your line of advance because it's too hard to get them out. Those troops don't just stay in place. They can attack your supply lines. Cut you off, and then what? You are alone in the wheat field and it does not matter if the map says you own that particular region if farmer Stanislav and his buddies are shooting at you
uuuh, HOI4 has logistics

try again
 
Looks like the real victim in all this might be Amazon Prime

As a Plane enjoyer the loss of the worlds only 225 sucks really hard. Only a Vatnik autist could come up with such a beast.
 
Russia doesn't want to annex Ukraine, at least Putler doesn't. He wants to take out the government, install a new one and leave, this includes the current moves they are making to encircle Ukrainian cities and the Ukrainian formations on the Donbas contact line so that they can be used to keep order when a new government is installed, one which Putin is hoping the Ukrainians can live with.
Putting up a puppet government IS taking functional control of the country, look at Belarus, it's been a functional extension of Russia, except somehow shitter.
 
I mean, using masks keeps radioactive particles from entering your lungs, and distancing might help with avoiding contact with a irradiated person-
except that's not how masks work, at least the ones people are running around with thinking it will give them 100% immunity. after 2 years of the flying aids killing every grandma and kid inside you should know that.
you'd need mask with a filter and know how to wear it correctly.

Russia kills Independent Journalists though. The west doesn't.
the west still has independent journalists?

Have any of you retards noticed that Estonia is much closer to Moskow, and it is NATO member for a long time?
literally who? estonia was also never talking about dirty bombs and shit with constant meddling from the west. and ukraine is still closer to moscow than estonia, in case you haven't noticed...
 
Considering there was a mass movement of people in 2014 to remove themselves of their Russian puppet leader, I'm not entirely unsurprised civilians are getting in on the action. Also Eastern Europeans are just built different, as seen with the Great Patriotic War, etc. For some of these guys, it's an opportunity to claim that same sort of martial legacy, to stand up against an invader. Maybe one not nearly as awful as the Nazis as evidenced by Russian willingness to not target civilians. But nevertheless an invader.

I know a lot of the guys itt are calling the Zelensky arming of civilians some sort of attempt to frame up civilians in bad ways. But to me at least, it's sort of the opposite. I think he's trying to ensure that if shit does hit fan in Kyiv, and they end up losing, the fighting continues after his death. And it also divests organisation away from the military, and means civilians can act as partisans and give the Russians hell after Ukrainian regulars are forced to leave. It'll still get a lot of them killed though.
Yanokovich wasn't a Russian Puppet, he constantly played both Russia and the EU for gibs and favors in a very careful balancing act. Problem was, the Americans/EU got tired of him and his shit including but not limited to stealing gas bound for Europe via the Russian pipelines in Ukraine. Belarus is a real example of a Russian "puppet" and even that is a very recent change.
 
Putting up a puppet government IS taking functional control of the country, look at Belarus, it's been a functional extension of Russia, except somehow shitter.

People were fine when the US did it.

Former Afghan President Ashraf Ghani fled with $169MILLION in his cash-stuffed helicopter and has been given asylum in Dubai on 'humanitarian grounds'​

  • President Ashraf Ghani fled Kabul as the Taliban reached the capital on Sunday
  • He fled without assistance from the US, presidential palace bodyguard has said
  • The 'snap' decision came after last ditch negotiations to avoid fighting in Kabul
  • He took with him four cars and a helicopter stuffed with $169million in cash
  • He has since arrived in Dubai, and been given asylum on 'humanitarian grounds'
 
I swear Russia shills really thinks this like EU 4 or Hearts of Iron. Hurr Durr, my division just entered this province/city unopposed. That means it's mine guys. Change the color on the map!

That is not how this works. Isolating enemy strong points may have worked with Island Hopping in the Pacific war, but it does not work in a pure land war. Soldiers need to eat. Their equipment needs fuel. They need ammunition. You can't just leave entire brigades of enemy soldiers behind your line of advance because it's too hard to get them out. Those troops don't just stay in place. They can attack your supply lines. Cut you off, and then what? You are alone in the wheat field and it does not matter if the map says you own that particular region if farmer Stanislav and his buddies are shooting at you

I assume you graduated top of your class at West Point? We're all armchair generals here don't get arrogant
 
Not sure what to make of this.
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I swear Russia shills really thinks this like EU 4 or Hearts of Iron. Hurr Durr, my division just entered this province/city unopposed. That means it's mine guys. Change the color on the map!

That is not how this works. Isolating enemy strong points may have worked with Island Hopping in the Pacific war, but it does not work in a pure land war. Soldiers need to eat. Their equipment needs fuel. They need ammunition. You can't just leave entire brigades of enemy soldiers behind your line of advance because it's too hard to get them out. Those troops don't just stay in place. They can attack your supply lines. Cut you off, and then what? You are alone in the wheat field and it does not matter if the map says you own that particular region if farmer Stanislav and his buddies are shooting at you
nigga I'm fairly certain the Russian army has an understanding of the importance of supply lines. I'm not sure why you're taking umbrage with this particular thing when frankly the autism coming out from either side of this thread has been enough to power a whole divisions worth of model trains.
 
Belarus has finished counting the votes of their constitutional referendum:

⚡⚡️Preliminary data shows that 5,359,471 people, or 78.63% of those on the voter lists, took part in the referendum.

✔️On Amendments and Additions to the Constitution of the Republic of Belarus 4 440 813 people or 65,16 % of the total number of participants voted for it.

❌ 686,165 people or 10.07% voted against.

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Apparently, the official story is that about 25% of people decided to show up and either left their votes empty or had them invalidated.

This referendum essentially creates a dual government in Belarus where all genuine governmental power is transferred from the parliament and president to the new All-Belarusian People's Assembly. Imagine an unholy combination of the Soviet Communist Party Politburo and the Chamber of Corporations from Mussolini's Italy, and you have something akin to the new Assembly.

This will allow the local Pro-Russian elite to stay in power even after Lukashenko is gone and even if any opposition parties ever gain any significant amount of seats in the parliament.
 
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