Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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Don't worry, folks. The guy who cried over 1/6 says Putin's threat to nuke the world is a bluff.
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I got this from 2ch.hk

https://t.me/imerkouri/13111
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Интервью полковника Центрального аппарата МО РФ Владимира Трухана:

Очень многие моменты проясняются предельно четко:

1. В войсковой операции НЕТ срочников. Только контрактники, прошедшие соответствующую подготовку. Поэтому и белорусы не участвуют - у них вся армия по призыву, контрактников-профессионалов нет. Поэтому если кто-то визжит про "трупы русских пацанов-срочников", можете смело плевать ему в очи.
2. Ни о каких 3.5 тыс. убитых российских военнослужащих даже речи быть не может - такое количество убитых означало бы в несколько раз большее количество раненых, а это значит, что все дороги были бы забиты санитарными машинами в обратном направлении, плюс массовое разворачивание полевых госпиталей - скрыть это невозможно. Ничего подобного мы даже в украинских пабликах не наблюдаем.
3. Случаи "пленения единичных российских бойцов", которые крутит бандеровская пропаганда, маловероятны - одиночного самовольщика, который поперся в соседнюю деревню за самогонкой, пленить можно, но это не боец, это раздолбай. Одиночного же бойца во время операции в отрыве от колонны - да кто ж ему даст отлучиться?
4. Случаи сожженных колонн на марше - возможны, это война, всякое бывает. Кто-то ошибся, не уследил, пришлось бросать с пустыми баками. За это кто-то поплатится погонами. В этом случае, надо полагать, брошенные пустые колонны сжигаются ВСУ задним числом для постановочных роликов.
5. То же самое с "ракетами, боеприпасами и топливом, которых в обрез и которых хватит на 3-4 дня" - феерическая брехня. Войсковые операции такого уровня готовятся несколько месяцев минимум, все просчитано и запасено заранее с избыточным резервированием на все случаи.
6. Главный лейтмотив действий ВС РФ: "мы не американцы". Это они, завидев что-то или кого-то на пути, сначала бросают гранату, а потом начинают разбираться - и то, если до этого дело дойдет. Поэтому аккуратный объезд несостоявшегося самоубийцы, который пытался под танки лезть - это правило. Плодить горы трупов никто не собирается, если человек не оказывает сопротивления, зачем его убивать?
7. Подрыв дамбы Северо-Крымского канала - это превентивная мера, если кто-то из отмороженных нацюков решит взорвать вышестоящую плотину, чтоб воде было куда уйти. То же самое касаемо АЭС, ГЭС, и иных объектов инфраструктуры - они берутся под контроль в обязательном порядке.
8. Раздача оружия неподготовленному населению, равно как и всякие "коктейли молотова", в противостоянии с профессионалами - феерический долбоящеризм. "Достаточно трех-четырех светошумовых гранат, чтоб они обдристалась на месте, бросили оружие и разбежались". Ничего, кроме крови мирного населения от рук бандитов, это не принесет. После этого становится понятным, что все действия "тероборонщиков", которые уничтожают дорожные знаки, гоняются за теми, кто якобы на крышах разметку наносит, да даже подрывают мосты - это просто тупость и полная некомпетентность. Ибо современного танкиста на неизвестный мост еще заманить надо - оно ему зачем рисковать полететь с обвалившегося пролета моста неизвестно какого состояния, когда проще гарантированно форсировать преграду на понтоне?
9. Кадыровцы, натасканные на борьбу с террористами в городских условиях и прошедшие соответствующую подготовку, будут зачищать упоротышей.
10. Участвующие в операции подразделения ВС РФ не используют минометы. Все минометные обстрелы, все минометные разрывы в жилых массивах (Сумы, Ахтырка, на Донбассе), особенно в бессмысленных местах, где нет никакой ни военной, ни энергетической инфраструктуры, это провокации ВСУ и тероборонщиков с целью воздействия на сознание местного населения.

В-общем, подытоживая, в операции непрофессионалов нет. Операция готовилась задолго загодя по всем параметрам и план имеет кучу ответвлений на всевозможный ход событий»
https://t.me/imerkouri/13111
https://t.me/imerkouri/13111

Translation:

interview of Colonel of the Central Office of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Vladimir Trukhan:

Many points are clarified very clearly:

1. There are NO conscripts in a military operation. Only contractors who have received appropriate training. Therefore, Belarusians do not participate either - they have the whole army on conscription, there are no contract professionals. Therefore, if someone screams about "the corpses of Russian conscript boys," you can safely spit in his eyes.
2. There can be no question of any 3.5 thousand killed Russian servicemen - such a number of dead would mean several times more wounded, which means that all roads would be clogged with ambulances in the opposite direction, plus the massive deployment of field hospitals - it is impossible to hide it. We don't see anything like this even in Ukrainian public sites.
3. Cases of "capture of individual Russian fighters", which Bandera propaganda turns, are unlikely - a single unauthorized person who got into a neighboring village for moonshine can be captured, but this is not a fighter, this is a jerk. A single fighter during an operation in isolation from a column - but who will let him leave?
4. Cases of burned columns on the march are possible, this is war, everything happens. Someone made a mistake, did not keep track, had to throw with empty tanks. For this, someone will pay with shoulder straps. In this case, presumably, the abandoned empty columns are burned by the APU retroactively for staged commercials.
5. The same with "missiles, ammunition and fuel, which are scarce and which will last for 3-4 days" - enchanting nonsense. Military operations of this level are being prepared for at least several months, everything is calculated and stored in advance with excessive redundancy for all cases.
6. The main leitmotif of the actions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: "we are not Americans." They are the ones who, seeing something or someone on the way, first throw a grenade, and then begin to sort it out - and then if it comes to that. Therefore, a careful detour of a failed suicide who tried to climb under tanks is a rule. No one is going to produce mountains of corpses, if a person does not resist, why kill him?
7. Undermining the dam of the North Crimean Canal is a preventive measure if one of the frostbitten Natsyuk decides to blow up a higher dam so that the water has somewhere to go. The same applies to nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power plants, and other infrastructure facilities - they are taken under control without fail.
8. The distribution of weapons to the unprepared population, as well as all sorts of "Molotov cocktails", in confrontation with professionals is enchanting dolboyashcherism. "Three or four stun grenades are enough for them to get blown up on the spot, drop their weapons and run away." It will bring nothing but the blood of civilians at the hands of bandits. After that, it becomes clear that all the actions of the "theroboronschiks" who destroy road signs, chase after those who allegedly mark the roofs, and even undermine bridges - this is just stupidity and complete incompetence. For a modern tanker needs to be lured to an unknown bridge - why should he risk flying from a collapsed span of a bridge of unknown condition, when it is easier to force an obstacle on a pontoon with a guarantee?
9. Kadyrov's men, trained to fight terrorists in urban conditions and trained accordingly, will clean up the uporotysh.
10. The units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation participating in the operation do not use mortars. All mortar attacks, all mortar explosions in residential areas (Sumy, Akhtyrka, in the Donbas), especially in senseless places where there is no military or energy infrastructure, are provocations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Defense forces in order to influence the consciousness of the local population.

In general, summing up, there are no non-professionals in the operation. The operation was prepared long in advance in all parameters and the plan has a bunch of branches for all possible course of events"

 
Oh God, the Occupy Democrats have turned into pro-war crazies after screaming about how an orange NYC businessman was going to cause the apocalypse for four years. And their predecessors bitched about Iraq for years before that. And the irony is that many of these vets were in the very wars the leftards of the past protested against.
This whole thing is proving how hypocritical so many people are and I love it. Its so funny seeing the people I work with sharing their stupid takes on this situation and being mad when every prediction I've made has been pretty on point.
 
Yep. Ask North Korea how much they love crippling sanctions. Spoiler: They don't. The temper tantrums they throw intermittently are attempts to get them relaxed.

You can say Putin doesn't GAF, and he probably doesn't, but Russia is still gonna pay out the ass economically for this shit.
Belarus and Russia can hold hands and starve together while being excluded from virtually every single multinational event on the planet.
 
Yep. Ask North Korea how much they love crippling sanctions. Spoiler: They don't. The temper tantrums they throw intermittently are attempts to get them relaxed.

You can say Putin doesn't GAF, and he probably doesn't, but Russia is still gonna pay out the ass economically for this shit.
There are other ways to pay for Russian oil other than using SWIFT. Until I start hearing about sanctions against Russian oil specifically, I'll assume it's business as usual.
 
Was somebody saying that was a good thing in Russia?

I just ignored it because it's business as usual in Russia. Much easier to sway public opinion on new, sweeping protest restrictions in a nominally free country than it is to institute liberties in Russia that have basically never existed at any time in its history.
Yes I saw several people earlier in the thread that seemed to take a lot of delight in seeing the russian "libtards" get owned that were also in the convoy thread screaming about the canadian cops acting like literal nazis. Didn't want to let bullshit go unchecked is all, obviously it isn't everybody.
 
Oh God, the Occupy Democrats have turned into pro-war crazies after screaming about how an orange NYC businessman was going to cause the apocalypse for four years. And their predecessors bitched about Iraq for years before that. And the irony is that many of these vets were in the very wars the leftards of the past protested against.

If marketing didn't work then it wouldn't be a $1.7 trillion dollar industry.
 
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