Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Genuinely surprised how bloodthirsty the EU elite has gotten over this

Yeah I heard Germany's speech from late yesterday and it was very in support of arming up, EU countries are no fly-zones for Russia, Germany also added 100bn payment to their military development and increased their warmachine to +2% GDP a year. Sounds like the EU is preparing for a potential war at worst or cold war at minimum. They rewritten the war act measures to allow them to be able to send lethal weapons to a country, it is no longer forbidden to do so.
 
If only we'd elected another Brandon...

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That guy is a faggot. The Western standard for faggotry is much less than it is in Russia. Only priests, faggots and singers (same thing) can wear hair that long.

Also, so typical of burgers, buy safefull NIB exotic guns and no ammo 'cause you think it will last forever.

I got stacks of bricks of just berdan primers and berdan decappers from motherland ... berdan primers, think about it boxer faggots
 
To put who exactly? the other guys in brazil are far left looters that suck Putin's cock even harder, they are an even bigger natual ally to him since they also simp for Nicaragua, Cuba and Venezuela. Shithole politicians love Putin, Bolsonaro is just another one.

Haha yeah, the CIA thinks about the long term consequences of its actions
 
Genuinely surprised how bloodthirsty the EU elite has gotten over this

Of course they are. They can pivot away from covid while pumping up their own economy, and they make their American masters happy. Its win win win unless you are a common everyday europoor.
 
>accuses people of brigading and raiding when someone else responds to them

:story:
Yet I notice only you and Disheveled Human answered a question I asked a totally different user, who refused to respond. No one else felt it was necessary to answer it. It's reasonable to ask why you're all responding to a question not directed to you. Very strange, maybe a mod can sort it out.
 
Genuinely surprised how bloodthirsty the EU elite has gotten over this

The war scare started a few weeks ago in Sweden. There was all this crazy talk about Russian invasions and landings in Sweden. Then and now
the whole thing seemed about stampeding Sweden into joining NATO.
 
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Genuinely surprised how bloodthirsty the EU elite has gotten over this

I am wondering whether this shitshow is gonna cause an increase in defense spending among most or all NATO countries.

It's like NOW they realize: "Oh fuck! We forgot Russia still has a big ass military out east!"

Germany also added 100bn payment to their military development and increased their warmachine to +2% GDP a year.
That's actually what they SHOULD have their defense spending at. At least. That was what Trump was bitching about. Mark my words, the MAGApedes are gonna have fun dabbing on Germany over this one.
 
That guy is a faggot. The Western standard for faggotry is much less than it is in Russia. Only priests, faggots and singers (same thing) can wear hair that long.

Also, so typical of burgers, buy safefull NIB exotic guns and no ammo 'cause you think it will last forever.

I got stacks of bricks of just berdan primers and berdan decappers from motherland ... berdan primers, think about it boxer faggots
You seem really fun.
 
This article was written almost a decade ago, but is still relevant now as it was then:
Scott Locklin said:
Pity the poor Ukrainians. Theirs is a vast country, fertile of soil and rich in minerals, wealthy in human capital and industrial resources, but forever caught at the crossroads between empires. Reading the Western media’s take on the recent political unrest, it is a Manichaean story of good versus evil: the freedom-loving Ukrainians versus the evil Soviet Russian puppets. The Russian media view it as the freedom-loving Ukrainians versus the evil fascist Western puppets. Neither is wrong.Ukraine, despite having only one government, isn’t really one nation. There is an ideal Ukrainian nation of Cossacks and Taras Shevchenko, just as there is an idealized American nation of cowboys and George Washington, but Ukraine is at least two historical nations. The south and east are Russian-speaking and as far as I can tell have been part of Russia since the Cossack revolt from the Polish-Lithuanian Empire in the 1600s. Western Ukraine has never been part of Russia. Before the partition of Poland in the 1700s, it was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Empire. After that, it was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. West Ukraine’s city of Lviv used to be known as “Lemberg,” and it is as obviously an Austro-Hungarian city as Dallas is an American city.“Ukraine is at least two historical nations.”The people in the west of Ukraine used to be called “Ruthenians.” Virtually all people in the west speak Ukrainian; in the far south and east, they mostly speak Russian. The people in the west have different religions. While southern and eastern Ukraine are Orthodox under the Moscow patriarchate, the west has pluralities of Ukrainian Greek Catholics and the two Orthodox patriarchates which do not bow to Moscow.

During the Russian civil war, the west declared a nationalistic independent republic, governed by the Rada in Kiev and allied with the Central Powers. The east almost immediately declared Soviet allied socialist republics based in Karkov and Donetsk. The Polish-Ukrainian War put an end to the independence of western Ukraine in 1919, and the area west of Kiev remained Polish until Stalin and Hitler decided to carve up Poland in 1939. After the Nazi invasion of 1941, the heroic Ukrainian Insurgent Army in the west resisted the Nazis and the Soviets without any outside assistance right up to the mid-1950s.

The “Orange Revolution” of 2004 followed this pattern. The porridge-faced hero of this “revolution,” Yuschenko, is from a Ukrainian-speaking region and is an ethnic Ukrainian, albeit one with a wife that worked for the US State Department. The grim-faced Russian-favored villain Yanukovych is from Donetsk in the east, the same city that declared for the Soviets in 1918. Yanukovych is not ethnically Ukrainian, being of Polish, Belarusian, and Russian ethnicities. Just to keep the history interesting, Yanukovych was appointed prime minister by Yuschenko in 2006 and later won a fair and democratic election in 2010, which is why he is in charge now, despite the Orange Revolution.

The present low-level civil war in Kiev is a continuation of battles that have gone on for centuries. The people freaking out in Kiev are predominantly Ukrainian-speaking and from the west. They wave flags of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army. The leaders of the people in the streets are from the west of Ukraine. Head of the Tymoshenko party, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, is from Chernivtsi in the southwest. Head of the nationalist Svoboda party, Oleh Tyahnybok, is from Lviv, the largest city in western Ukraine. Gentleman boxer Vitali Klitschko is so Western-oriented, he lived in Germany until he got involved in Ukrainian politics and took up full-time residency in Kiev. The western cities of Lviv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk have declared a general strike in favor of the protesters.

The people presently in charge of the country hail from the pro-Russian city of Donetsk. While the Donetsk bunch would prefer the nation remain nominally independent and would probably prefer to sign the EU trade agreement, they are spiritually Russian-oriented and rely on Moscow for political support. They have also been placed in an extremely difficult position. The Russians don’t want increased EU/American influence over Ukraine, seeing Ukraine as their “near abroad.” The EU wants glamorous jailbird Yulia Tymoshenko out of the pokey as a precondition of the economic agreement, despite her being considered a criminal oligarch. While she obviously has her supporters, her former Orange Revolution ally Yuschenko not only testified against her in court, he’s also written WSJ editorials denouncing her. The EU also wants complex legal reforms. The EU is offering Ukraine peanuts: 610 million euro of aid in return for taking on a 10-billion-euro loan, letting Tymoshenko out of jail, and radically transforming their legal system. The Russians are offering direct aid in the form of cheap gas, which is what the EU loan would have been used for anyway.

Ukraine’s GDP per capita is at $3,900/year. Influence is cheap in a country so poor. The Russians are obviously interfering in Ukraine’s political process. What is unsaid in the Western media is that so are the EU and the US State Department. The political system is so corrupt in Ukraine, nobody even bothers hiding it. The late pro-Western oligarch Boris Berezovsky admitted to funding large parts of the “Orange Revolution” nine years ago. Ukrainska Pravda, one of the bolder opposition newsletters, is openly funded by the “National Endowment for Democracy,” a US-funded NGO and instrument of the US State Department. The Kyiv Post was founded by the American FEMEN sugar daddy, Jed Sunden, and has been sold to British Ukrainian oligarch Mohammad Zahoor. The US State Department actively solicits Ukrainian journalists who want to further American interests in Ukraine on their website. Spooky NGOs aren’t shy about it, either.

The choice between the EU and the Russians appears to be a choice between two sets of oligarchs, one of which also comes with the spectacle of gay parades and grouchy nekkid feminists. The country is divided as to whether it wants to be closer to Russia or the EU, with a plurality favoring the EU for now. If I were Ukrainian, I’d seriously consider “none of the above,” as 13% of those polled did before the unpleasantness in Kiev.
 
I'm curious as to what fighters NATO is giving them. Across all of NATO I think there's maybe 60 to 70 mig 29s in service, plus a handful of soviet ground attack types. We can't give them any western fighters, just because they don't have pilots trained on them, and it's doubtful they would accept the Ukrainian munitions. If we give them those migs, I wonder how fast they'll be replaced in those countries.
Suggest this is a handy way to get rid of the MiGs. Would say some of these countries have F-35s or other fighters on order.
 
Dirty dirty Cuban cigars that leave a ton of residue behind.

I really can't complain I shoot Russian stuff all the time and never have an issue. But I also clean my guns regular because I'm not a fucking caveman.
I never shoot my Wolf or Tula because I go to one of those ranges that bans them, because muh fire hazard. I only keep it around for SHTF.
 
The retards at google really think that Russia is using google maps to invade Ukraine. The refugees are gonna get fucked by this and end up as cannon fodder for the Azov Battalion
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That guy is a faggot. The Western standard for faggotry is much less than it is in Russia. Only priests, faggots and singers (same thing) can wear hair that long.

Also, so typical of burgers, buy safefull NIB exotic guns and no ammo 'cause you think it will last forever.

I got stacks of bricks of just berdan primers and berdan decappers from motherland ... berdan primers, think about it boxer faggots
Do you just enjoy poking the nest or what? Terrible at garnering any sympathy, that's for sure.
 
"Where my Stoli at, bitch? Fuck I care about some Ukelelians?"
The ignorant American is stereotype for a reason. He probably didn't (or can't) read and assumed that all vodka comes from Russia. I would like to try Ukrainian vodka personally but honestly I don't know a liquor store that has it.

Dipshit would probably dump that too because Burgerfats can't fucking read.
 
The retards at google really think that Russia is using google maps to invade Ukraine. The refugees are gonna get fucked by this and end up as cannon fodder for the Azov Battalion
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I actually was using google maps as an indication where Russian Columns were on day one. It was pretty accurate.
 
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