Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Dunno if this was posted yet but this is a "fake news fact sheet" making its rounds. Source on pic
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lol at the propaganda machine
"If its anything negative about Ukraine defense, its a Russian attack"
I wonder why they are so desperate to paint Ukraine as always winning and killing 100'000 Russians a day, like i get it NATO and the EU wants them to win but its not exactly helping anyone, specially when you say Ukraine is totally driving back Russians and how Putin is pant-shittingly mad about his "failed" invasion, and then you see the graphs where it shows Russians just taking more and more cities and the capital getting bombed more and more.
Who's getting helped from all of the blatant obvious lies?
 
Another video of Russians using rocket artillery to "clear out pockets of Ukrainian nationalists in Kharkiv".

Looks like the Russians in Kharkiv have stopped caring about optics. They've changed tune from "we will only attack military targets" to "we'll fire outdated rockets that spread all over the place to the middle of a city."


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Well, shit. The Kiev meatgrinder it is, then.
 
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Wait lmao, are westoids so far deluded to think mah heckin' holesome Ukrainerinoos actually ever had a chance against Russia?
Yes. I have family in Europe and the media (both tv and social) there are giving way too much importance to civilian resistance. Everyone and their grandma is sending clothes and medicine to Ukraine. It’s all very romanticised sadly.
 
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"we'll fire outdated rockets that spread all over the place to the middle of a city."
Sounds like something a ukrainian would come up with, on the page with "ehhhhh, they just blow themselves up and they really are just KGB agents, it's not our fault".

but all those names look like something from a random slav name generator
Foreign media ignored all that shit, but you can try google those names.

>implying I have a Telegram
I suppose I should set one up for this shit since a lot of slavs seem to use it. I assume you're not trolling, so thanks.
I opened it in browser somehow.
 
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negotiations have just begun. delegation probably sweating their balls off after Zelensky sent them away and then almost immediately declared for The EU. lmfao.
 
I didn't think it was possible, but the British media is somehow even more united on Ukraine than they were on covid. The sites that were saying 'maybe Putin has a point' a few weeks ago, have all turned. I'm sure there's nothing suspicious at all about institutions across the entire political spectrum suddenly having the exact same views about everything.
 
Belarus is going to form a union with Russia and join the Federation. It's probably all part of the plan. Kazakhstan or North Kazakhstan too.
Belarus doesn't need to join the Russian Federation proper, it's already part of the Union State. Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia, Russia and Belarus are already part of the Eurasian Economic Union which could develop further integration as well, plus the Commonwealth of Independent States is still a thing. The post-Soviet sphere is a mess of multinational and intergovernmental organizations with varying levels of ass pats and jabs in the gut.
 
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lol at the propaganda machine
"If its anything negative about Ukraine defense, its a Russian attack"
I wonder why they are so desperate to paint Ukraine as always winning and killing 100'000 Russians a day, like i get it NATO and the EU wants them to win but its not exactly helping anyone, specially when you say Ukraine is totally driving back Russians and how Putin is pant-shittingly mad about his "failed" invasion, and then you see the graphs where it shows Russians just taking more and more cities and the capital getting bombed more and more.
Who's getting helped from all of the blatant obvious lies?
Fog of war, take all of it including the Russian reports with a grain of salt.
 
What's next, are they gonna burn down a Greek Orthodox Church thinking that it's somehow related to Russia?
For Ukraine!

Disagree completely. This isn't Iraq or some other desert shithole. Hell, if a bunch of those soldiers took a DNA test they would probably only be about 4 degrees off center. If that. Europe, especially that part of Europe, is a small place. It would be like comparing someone from Maine to someone in Maryland. It's why a hundred pages back some neolib bubble headed moron journalist said the same exact thing, just ass backwards and retarded because he can't admit openly he sees people from a sandbox differently than people he buys groceries with.
I understand where you're coming from, but it depends on how far it goes here. Westernized communists have went to fight in Syria, and I've heard rumors of white nationalist types showing interest in the area for similar reasons. Maybe it's a different kind of trouble spot than the Middle East ones, but those kinds of people are out there.
Whoever inserted "sacred democracy" into the NPC programming should be beaten about the head with a wrench.
DNC NPCs are a religious cult at this point, change my mind.

His goal is to get you mad and he succeed, stop replying to trolling fags and they will stop.
True that, but there's a difference between getting a rise out of people and trying to get them jailed for CP. Underage cartoon porn is actually illegal in some states.

Makes me glad I'm going slower in this thread, so it's less likely I'll see that shit.

Yeah turn America into a one party state so we can fuck you over even harder in the future!

Twatter is bad enough, this asswipe exploiting a humanitarian crisis for personal gain and to inch us towards a de facto dictatorship with it is unforgivable.
 
The people saying how much they support Ukraine don't know anything, they're just doing what they think they're supposed to do. I would wager a significant amount couldn't find it on a map nor would they consider the context that it borders Russia when looking.
Someone posted something upthread that showed a negative correlation between ability to locate Ukraine on a map, and support for Ukraine in this war, among Americans polled.
 
There’s absolutely no fucking way Ukraine is in the EU or NATO before this shit ends. However, Biden is a total pussy. They should’ve put sanctions on Hitler. That would have prevented WWII!

I will say, Biden is fucking this up less than I thought he would. Media releases and back-room got information out front. He still got caught pants around his ankles when the balloon when up (would it kill you to redeploy some Naval assets and make the Bongs & Frogs do the same?). Its been a few days and there is still a Ukraine.

The real issue is that Russia has clearly burned through the tardo conscripts and the real forces are about to start rolling up.

Oil sales didn't work so well for Venezuela...

Its not oil sales, its natural gas sales.
Germany & The Netherlands, chiefly, have let envirocucks win and gone "green". What this means is banning coal/nukes and replacing it with one wind turbine and natural gas plants. Natural Gas plants have lower emissions than coal, but are substancially more expensive especially for Germany that has substantive domestic coal deposits but very little natural gas.
Netherlands technically has access to offsource Natural Gas, but treehuggers have made sure they can't make use of it.

Both countries have given their balls to Putin, because nearly all of their natural gas comes from Russia. The reason why Putin waited until it got cold to have his little adventure is because embargos on Russia mean embargoes on natural gas which means a massive spike in prices. This means Grandma's heating bill goes to the fucking moon as does everyone's electric bill.

All this shit in Ukraine started in 2014 because German Intelligence (Also CIA) backed the Ukrainian opposition riots against Russia's puppet, disrupting the Great Game that was being played. Germany did this because Russia was playing hardball on natural gas terms and pipeline rates.
The intention seems to have been to scare the president to a more EU-favorable stance, or possibly force him out as a message to Russia, but things got a little out of control and you had civil war and the occupation of Crimea. Germany seeming to agree that letting Putin keep Crimea & defacto control over 1/3 of the country was an equitable trade for a recognized EU-friendly government setting the rates they wanted.

Unironically, thank you for the recommendation. The Comanche sounds really brutal.

Off topic, but all the Plains Indians were seriously fucked up and brutal. Killing & maiming people from that other tribe/camp in seriously fucked up ways, like breaking someone's limbs and then throwing them into a smoldering fire to laugh as they tried to get out, were common.
Among these violent sadists, the Comanche were the far and away the most brutal and fucked up. Comanche were equal opportunity - they and the Kiowa got along, and they even let based whites & spics join their raiding parties if they like the cut of your jib. The Comanche had a lot to prove, given that were viewed as little better than animals by the other tribes until they got the horse and turned shit aroung.

the tl;dr on why they were so fucked up is that Plain Indian culture had not fully adapted to the introduction of the increased mobility granted by the horse that was introduced by the Spanish. Their fucked up brutality was a hold over from pre-horse times; a way of solving conflicts quickly in a low-resource environment (be so violently fucked up the other people would have no choice but to move away from you or to retaliate and try kill you) which was a survival necessity when you were on foot and those other, bad indians were 10 miles away.
Anyway, at the risk of my niggerdeath street cred, its not unique to Indians. In the post-roman period of England/Ireland, you saw similar levels of wanton violent as the northern Celtic people were introduced to the horse.
 
There are quite a number of posters even here that think Russia is taking massive losses.

There's a large portion of Kiwifarms that is retarded and believe almost everything the media tells them.

Just look at all the corona and TDS tards. Fact is, a lot of western countries beat it in your head from the age of 4 that licking the boot makes you intelligent.
 
Whats surprised me is just how war hungry the western normalfag seems to be at the moment. I'm not sure if its due to some sort of delusion brought about by decades of peace at home, political hysteria from the cringe culture wars or if we really are just that susceptible to the propaganda we are seeing from this war now, but I don't really know what to think that a lot of people don't seem to realise just how severe a conflict between NATO and Russia has the potential to be.

I don't know if they genuinely believe the almost hollywood-tier narrative of, "Russia is being a bad dude, we've got to step in and save the day like a super hero with just a few scrapes for our trouble, then its back to coomin' and consoomin' like nothing happened", but it's certainly looking like that to me. Maybe I'm wrong and spouting a bunch of bullshit, mostly I just don't fancy becoming a pile of radioactive dust.
Where are you going to gauge the opinion of the western normalfag? Twitter? Reddit? 90% of those sites' mission is to create a distorted view of popular opinion. The moment the effects of the sanctions hit the west whatever astroturfed support they have will evaporate.
 
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Russia is right from a geopolitical perspective and wrong from a self-determination perspective.

Russia is right because the US and NATO have genuinely made plans and publicly stated that they intend to move weapons to Ukraine, including long range missiles and even chemical weapons labs. That isn't a meme. This is, as many people have said, no different to the Cuban missile crisis. If you think the USA acted appropriately in the Cuban missile crisis, you are probably going to sympathise with Russia in this situation.

Russia is wrong
because the people of Ukraine chose to pivot to NATO and the West voluntarily. Yes, we can argue that the full weight of the Western media pulled them in that direction. Yes, we can argue that the Ukrainian government shut down opposition news stations. You can argue that about any Western country as well, yet we still have to honour the decisions the public make even if they were manipulated because, frankly, we are being manipulated by all sides anyway. If you think the British public deserved to have their Brexit vote honoured, you are probably going to sympathise with Ukraine in this situation.

So my question is... I think that the USA acted appropriately during the Cuban missile crisis AND I think the Brexit vote should be honoured, so whose side should I be on?

I think I have an answer.

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Russia is a tragedy, really.

All was going well before WW1.

It was proyected to be as industrialized as Germany and by now they would have had 400 million inhabitants.

But we all know the story, the 20th century said : Fuck you, fuck your future, fuck your fertility, fuck your superpower status and i'm going to shit on you for eternity.
Source: some cuck monarchist
 
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