Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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German has its foul brown coal, Poland has better quality stuff, Romania still some oil, coal and other things too. Ireland has some natural gas. The Dutch might have some oil fields. France should have kept Algeria. De Gaulle was silly. Overall, it's not much. The Bongs had oil, but its declining and they're gone.
You wouldn't be entirely right in saying that EU has nothing *but* coal or muh green energy.
France, rather recently too, had reactivated a few nuke reactors, and has openly stated that they want to build more, much to the then dismay of the eternal Kraut.
 
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lol given how pretty much every cucked nation in the world is pumping in weapons to one of the most corrupt nations in the world knowing full well they're going to end up being used against their soldiers later, I'd say it was a Freudian slip.

Also potentially handed over to formerly jailed rapists and murderers!
 
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You should insert the videos so that they can be more easily seen.

This one does show the gruesome aftermath of what happens when you bomb a city full of civvies with rocket artillery. I'm sure we'll hear about a lot more civilian casualties before the day is over.


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To me it looks like a gunfight that took place as there is barely any damage around those 2 dead civilians. Buildings also seem intact.
 
Invasion isn't botched, its still truckin' along.
Honestly the only mistake Putin has made is talking about nuclear alert, and that's only a mistake from external optics. ITs a solid alpha move against trembling Eurocucks.
He also didn't count on the PR backlash, but that's something that went against him vs. a mistake. He was expecting Crimea seizure 2.0.

And its neither. Putin is wanting a Russia Stronk PR move for people to show he's still the only strong man who can control the country.
Pretty nice cope ya got there.
 
So what is the loss condition here? Losing the capital? Capturing the jewish funnyman? Occupying 80% of Ukrainean territory? Genuinely curious.
Well that's the rub isn't it. Putin has not exactly been clear what he actually wants from this beyond sweeping historical narratives about Ukraine being a mistake of a country and USA bad. I suppose being cagey about the objective gives him plenty of wiggle room, but it also makes it impossible to stop the war.
 
You wouldn't be entirely right in saying that EU has nothing *but* coal or muh green energy.
France, rather recently too, had reactivated a few nuke reactors, and has openly stated that they want to build more, much to the then dismay of the eternal Kraut.
Fun fact Switzerland makes a fortune laundering nuclear power. They buy the excess from France, use if to pump water up a mountain to a man-made lake then run it back down through a hydrodam and sell it on to Germany, Italy etc as nice green hydroelectricity.
 
We have been saying that the Russians we saw on those videos were only conscripts and national guard

Well, the Ruskies said that contractors and officers were the only ones in Ukraine but I think this is a lie because so far, they've getting pumeled and are suffering supply problems.

I don't know what to believe.

Look at the videos. Initial forces moving in have no fuel trucks rolling with them. Its all troop trucks, not even proper supply trucks. No towed arty. This was a straight "man with the gun shoots, man without follows" situation. You send in your cannon fodder to do what they can until they run out of fuel/ammo. Then you follow up with your main force.

Look at the two big columns moving in now. Fuel trucks moving with the tanks; these are troops that getting supplied and there to fight.

Its also hard to tell who is losing what, because UKR & GRU use the same equipment.
 
They're thanking Putin for liberating them and then point towards the house and basically go "Thanks Volodya, now we have somewhere to live lmao, thanks a lot".
"They say they are grateful to Putin and welcome the Russians as liberators."

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Look at the videos. Initial forces moving in have no fuel trucks rolling with them. Its all troop trucks, not even proper supply trucks. No towed arty. This was a straight "man with the gun shoots, man without follows" situation. You send in your cannon fodder to do what they can until they run out of fuel/ammo. Then you follow up with your main force.

Look at the two big columns moving in now. Fuel trucks moving with the tanks; these are troops that getting supplied and there to fight.

Its also hard to tell who is losing what, because UKR & GRU use the same equipment.
That's the reason why looking at the invasion signs is important. If a vehicle has clear markings, it's Russian. The camo is also often a bit different. Ukrainian active duty vehicles tend to use digital camo. Reserve vehicles have whatever Soviet-era paint they came with.

I've seen heard conjectures that the "Z" mark is for troops in the South, "V" is for troops coming from Belarus and "O" is for reserves. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?
 
Fun fact Switzerland makes a fortune laundering nuclear power. They buy the excess from France, use if to pump water up a mountain to a man-made lake then run it back down through a hydrodam and sell it on to Germany, Italy etc as nice green hydroelectricity.
Interesting enough, the germs and italians keep shitting on us swiss for still using a lot of power plants while they buy our electricity
 
That's the reason why looking at the invasion signs is important. If a vehicle has clear markings, it's Russian. The camo is also often a bit different. Ukrainian active duty vehicles tend to use digital camo. Reserve vehicles have whatever Soviet-era paint they came with.

I've seen heard conjectures that the "Z" mark is for troops in the South, "V" is for troops coming from Belarus and "O" is for reserves. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?
I am not sure if the conjecture about the signs is entirely correct. The "Z" mark was definitely seen on Russian vehicles fighting in Kharkov, which is pretty far away from the southern front relatively speaking. With that said it was a different kind of Z mark with it being a white Z on a black background in a square. This mark looked a lot cleaner then the identification marks used in the south near Crimea.
 
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