Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Uber driver reviewer]

And expect some archduke ferdinand type clownery where Putin will use as justification to keep the war going.

Fuck me. Should be mandatory for politicians to take history classes to you know, avoid making the same mistakes.

The Belarus president should be careful to be sure Putin doesn’t sacrifice him then

 

[biozeminadae1]

That's the reason why looking at the invasion signs is important. If a vehicle has clear markings, it's Russian. The camo is also often a bit different. Ukrainian active duty vehicles tend to use digital camo. Reserve vehicles have whatever Soviet-era paint they came with.

I've seen heard conjectures that the "Z" mark is for troops in the South, "V" is for troops coming from Belarus and "O" is for reserves. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

I thought Z stands for ZAPAD - West, V for VOISTOK - East.

 

[Seethecoper]

Ok so. Based on what's happened so far, with the SWIFT ban, insane amount of sanctions, the unexpected amount of resistance the Ukrainians are holding, and the list of countries pledging military assets and soldiers building, what are the chances this is actually literally unironically without a doubt kicking off a massive war? Maybe not WW3, maybe no nukes, just a large scale battle with death tools in the hundreds of thousands?

Because it feels a bit like this whole debacle is being staged to have excuses to shore up money and set up talking points for the 2024 election

 

[Toothpaste]

To me it looks like a gunfight that took place as there is barely any damage around those 2 dead civilians. Buildings also seem intact.

Hard to tell from the angle the cameraman shows. There is debris all around the bodies, though. The vehicles on fire also seem to be civilian ones.

 

[Bananadana]

You should insert the videos so that they can be more easily seen.

This one does show the gruesome aftermath of what happens when you bomb a city full of civvies with rocket artillery. I'm sure we'll hear about a lot more civilian casualties before the day is over.


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No.
Seriously, its just not.
Can we pretty please stop trying to gaslight god knows who by stating "OMG ROCKETHOLOCAUST" every time a fucking building gets hit by something ?
This is twitter-tier disinfo.


This is the real life version of what you just described, and what it looks like:

Battle of Grozny (1999–2000) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Does your video look like it got the Grozny-deluxe treatment ? Or like a single, concentrated strike to reduce damage, compared to just bombing everything?

 

[Toothpaste]

I thought Z stands for ZAPAD - West, V for VOISTOK - East.

One theory.

Then what are "O" and "\"?

 

[apolloday]

That's the reason why looking at the invasion signs is important. If a vehicle has clear markings, it's Russian. The camo is also often a bit different. Ukrainian active duty vehicles tend to use digital camo. Reserve vehicles have whatever Soviet-era paint they came with.

I've seen heard conjectures that the "Z" mark is for troops in the South, "V" is for troops coming from Belarus and "O" is for reserves. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

Explanation at 6:49

Ukraine War Update: On The Landing Grounds

00:00 – European Theatre Overview03:38 – Ukraine Strategic Overview06:49 – Russian IFF Markings07:45 – Northeastern Front10:05 – Eastern Front10:29 – Souther...

youtu.be

 

[Abominacione]

I am laughing way too hard at that. I am also glued to this glorious concoction of human stupidity from all sides. I thought Coronavirus caused peak freakout. Russia\Ukraine and their globalist overlords said hold my beer and watch this.

more mass formation psychosis?

 

[Aidan]

blah blah blah blah

Because it feels a bit like this whole debacle is being staged to have excuses to shore up money and set up talking points for the 2024 election

Yeah bro this is all to keep drumpf out of the white house.

 

[Kane Lives]

No.
Seriously, its just not.
Can we pretty please stop trying to gaslight god knows who by stating "OMG ROCKETHOLOCAUST" every time a fucking building gets hit by something ?
This is twitter-tier disinfo.


This is the real life version of what you just described, and what it looks like:

Battle of Grozny (1999–2000) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Does your video look like it got the Grozny-deluxe treatment ? Or like a single, concentrated strike to reduce damage, compared to just bombing everything?

Everytime Grozny is brought up, I honestly wonder much many tons of explosives were used to level the entire city.

It has to be in the hundreds of thousands.

 

[Fougaro]

One theory.

Then what are "O" and "\"?

The Russians' and Ukrainians' way of playing Tic-Tac-Toe.

 

[Jump]

This is why Russia thought they were going to get away with it. Its winter and Germany/Netherlands/Denmark/Belgium are completely dependent on Russia gas imports to keep their people from freezing. Locking out Russian banks means no more buying NG, Russia was counting on what we saw in the first 24 hours: angry words and limp wristed sanctions against "individuals". People are now angry enough that Eurocuck politians can take the hit from higher energy costs to sacktap Russia.

They miscalculated the PR blitz. i guess no one warned Putin that the Jews control the media.

But last I checked Russia energy is exempt from the EU and US sanctions. It's not just a matter of higher energy costs. It would be a matter of NO energy at any cost. You can't just replace 1/3 of your needed energy over night.

The sanctions will only hurt the little people of the EU and Russia when it comes to consumer goods.
The business of Russia (energy) will keep on just fine.


Between NATO creeping closer and the world trying to push to "green" energy it was basically now or never for Russia.

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

Looks like the Belarusians have some competition.
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We're getting the gang back together again!

Latvian soldiers were some of the best I've ever served with.

 

[Getting tard comed]

So what is the loss condition here? Losing the capital? Capturing the jewish funnyman? Occupying 80% of Ukrainean territory? Genuinely curious.

I imagine the loss condition for the Ukrainians is death to the leaders or exile.

Pretty sure, based on Putins previous excursions his win condition is a new govermemt for Ukraine, possibly the Donbaus annexed or its own country(ies) and a pro-Russian or at worse a neutral goverment in charge of Ukraine.

Pretty sure he's going to get it.

Curious what people think about this:

Spoiler: Long letter

Russian grandmaster Sergey Karjakin is facing disciplinary action from the International Chess Federation (FIDE) after expressing support for his country’s military operation in Ukraine.

In an open letter to President Vladimir Putin shared on social media on Sunday, the Crimean-born Karjakin said he fully backed the effort to fight “for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.”

“I appeal to you at this difficult time, when our country, led by you, is fighting for the safety of the peaceful Russian population of Donbass and the Lugansk People’s Republic,” wrote the 32-year-old.

“It is fighting for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine with its ruling regime, which has put the security of all of Europe and our country at risk, for the sake of its political goals and ambitions.

“I am closely following the ongoing special operation, in the lands where I spent my childhood, where I learned to play chess and where my relatives still live.

“For eight long years we have been waiting with hope for salvation from countless shelling and loss of human lives, the ongoing genocide by the still acting Kiev regime.

“I express to you, our commander-in-chief, full support in protecting the interests of Russia, our multinational Russian people, eliminating threats and establishment of peace! I wish you the speedy fulfillment of all the tasks assigned to our valiant army.”

Typically speaking the "good guys" aren't censoring or punishing people for expressing their thoughts, traditionally. It is a brave new world now though so maybe that's aisguided notion of the past.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Also the EU can't stop buying russian energy

Sure they can. It'll quickly mean massive unemployment, widespread rationing and levels of poverty not seen since the 1970's, but they were heading that way with green mandates anyway.

They economically skullfucked themselves over a flu that 99% of people under the age of 80 shrug off easily. Anything is possible in the EU, as long as it's extremely gay and self-harming.

 

[Coccxys]

Ok so. Based on what's happened so far, with the SWIFT ban, insane amount of sanctions, the unexpected amount of resistance the Ukrainians are holding, and the list of countries pledging military assets and soldiers building, what are the chances this is actually literally unironically without a doubt kicking off a massive war? Maybe not WW3, maybe no nukes, just a large scale battle with death tools in the hundreds of thousands?

Because it feels a bit like this whole debacle is being staged to have excuses to shore up money and set up talking points for the 2024 election

It's spiralling towards Ukraine being a forever battleground for the various powers to play proxywar and destination holiday for anyone who wants to play a foreign savior larp. I doubt it will spill out of Ukraine and it was entirely decimate the place in the process. It sucks to be the designated playing field for the world powers to play out their war games but they got the short straw.

 

[mudwogg]

Ok so. Based on what's happened so far, with the SWIFT ban, insane amount of sanctions, the unexpected amount of resistance the Ukrainians are holding, and the list of countries pledging military assets and soldiers building, what are the chances this is actually literally unironically without a doubt kicking off a massive war? Maybe not WW3, maybe no nukes, just a large scale battle with death tools in the hundreds of thousands?

Because it feels a bit like this whole debacle is being staged to have excuses to shore up money and set up talking points for the 2024 election

The amount of cash being sent. Percentages (eg kickbacks) might likely be funneled back to certain individuals.

 

[TheBeanz]

I've seen heard conjectures that the "Z" mark is for troops in the South, "V" is for troops coming from Belarus and "O" is for reserves. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

Cross reference it with geo-located footage and you'll have your answer. Far as I can guess the markings are there for the purpose of avoiding friendly fire, seeing as the hardware and camo used by both sides is quite similar.

 

[Turk on the lurk]

People of Berdyansk are yelling "Домой!" (Go home!) at Russian troops.

 

[timewave0]

God hates the world and all its people