Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Now that Russian businesses in the US are being vandalized how long until people unironically call for internment camps for anyone of Russian descent?

Whenever the propaganda machine wants them to.

 

[Strix454]

This isn't a new power. It's been pursued pretty much for the entirety of US history. When foreign relations break down with a state, that state's assets are seized and confiscated.

Happened to Germany in 1917. Happened to Japan and Germany in 1941. Happened to Afghanistan last year. It's not new. Don't spout some Trudeau-esque, "If you confiscate your enemies' property, they win."

Its diffferent now in that they are taking individual personal assets rather than the state assets.

 

[Coccxys]

Their are already many Ukrainians in Europe, mostly in Poland. And yes, they come years before war.

No shit. Ones that had to apply for visas/immigration and be allowed in rather than free movement, full gibbs entitlement border rush. If they get EU membership then RIP Poland and Hungary borders.

 

[JambledUpWords]

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[Kappa]

I really wonder what the Russian Federation has in mind. I haven't had the time to look at everything, and honestly, I don't know, and I am a bit afraid of the consequences this will have on basically everything for the next few years maybe - or days, if it comes to the good ol' nuclear exchange.

 

[Gregg Turkington]

Isn't that why Kalingrad will never return back to German lol.

I'm sure there was a lot of rape in 1945 but the reason it will never return to Germany is that the Soviets kicked out almost every ethnic German in Kaliningrad, Sudetenland and the eastern parts of Germany that were given to Poland. From the 2010 Census there are more Armenians living in Kaliningrad than Germans.

 

[Fcret]

Its diffferent now in that they are taking individual personal assets rather than the state assets.

They took individual assets in all those wars too. You think the German or Japanese industrialists were spared having their assets frozen and seized?

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

Defenders of Snake Island confirmed to still be alive by Ukrainian Navy:
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weird. ukrani shills went on and on regarding how they were brave and that russians were full of shit when claiming to have captured them

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

Do you call it a witch hunt when people share the address of Elon Musk’s house? Or where his private planes fly?

People track ceo's private jets so they can try to predict deals they'll be making. Like if Elon is flying to Redmond he might be making a deal with Microsoft for instance.

 

[The Other Baldwin]

I don't hear anything. Audio has been agonizingly unreliable on these streams.

scroll to about 18:41 local time on the bottom left clock. It's a pain in the ass to link it by time.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

So it will illogical as fuck when you see, e.g., photo from killing a shitty Russian by angry mob like 1699 adn fell bad for that poor thing.

Will someone threadban this retarded mad-at-the-internet ukroposter already? At least дядя Боря provided some content along with his embarrassing ass-blastedness.

Every poorly written screechpost written by an obvious ESL Ukrainian only serves to shit up this thread and make people hate the Ukies more.

 

[Strix454]

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The war on the American "enemy within" begins. And its totally appropriate that a monster like Hillary Clinton kicks it off.

 

[Dave_Ph]

It was Canadian truckers last week, it's Russians this week.
Might it be that alarm bells are ringing that it's safe for none of us to have money in a bank.

FYI, they just gave the truckers their trucks back.
That no food thing finally dawned on them

 

[Happy Fish]

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This is what I am talking about. Why go overseas to fight Russians when people like this exist at home?

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

IMO kicking Russia off SWIFT will, in the long run, destroy SWIFT. The central condition of SWIFT access was compliance with American KYC/AML, not that you comply with whatever the State Department wants this week. Now that Washington has clearly established that SWIFT is a foreign policy tool, and access to it can be terminated at will by us for reasons completely unrelated to its claimed purpose & conditions, other countries are going to evaluate it on that basis, and probably seek alternatives.

This may very well be the EU thinking they can start up TAYLOR that will be SWIFT but controlled by the EU instead of the US. US/China/Russia aren't the only maneuverings going on.

 

[Oxous]

If published in a major newspaper like that, and in the context of rising anti-Russian hate? Absolutely. Especially when there's no apparent reason for them to do so. Maybe you could enlighten us on that.

Oh, I get that these are technically public information, but really, nobody looks it up on their own. Unless of course, you conveniently make it available. Then again, it might be hypocritical of me to say this on a site known for doxxing lolcows, but eh.

I just find it hard to sympathize for them, being oligarchs and all. I’d be surprised if any of them were living in their NY apartments right now honestly, and if they were they can pay for security. I would guess the main motivation for publishing the addresses is gossip/the NYT being a tabloid paper.

 

[AnOminous]

FYI, they just gave the truckers their trucks back.

Good. Because that was seriously the most repugnant, draconian thing they did and was completely unjustified under the circumstances. They would have kept them if they hadn't looked absolutely horrible for doing that.

 

[borsabil]

I wonder if Putin began his invasion not because of Biden fearmongering over it two weeks ago, but when the Chinese gave them US intelligence over Russian troop positions that Biden initially shared voluntarily with Beijing.

Putin realized Biden won't do anything at that point and decided to go for broke and damn the tournedos.

The theory is that Russia decided to invade after the Americans told the Chinese that Ukraine was guaranteed NATO membership

Biden assures Zelenskiy that NATO membership in Ukraine's hands, Kyiv says

U.S. President Joe Biden assured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Kyiv's bid to join the NATO military alliance was in its own hands, Zelenskiy's chief of staff said after the two leaders spoke on Thursday.

www.reuters.com

The burger cries out in pain while he drones a family of seven collecting water for a neighbour. America is truly Satanic. Degenerate filth.

 

[Toothpaste]

It's been fun, but I won't have time to contribute much to this thread anymore. Therefore, I'll summarize my thoughts before I become more passive.

I personally find myself leaning strongly towards Ukraine in this conflict, but not for reasons you might expect. Many people on this thread seem to be so obsessed with social media and some enmity against certain odious groups and politicians that they can't see why anyone would be able to find themselves on the same side as the Western global elite.

I for one first came to this thread on the 19th. This is when I personally felt it was inevitable that a major war was going to start. This both fascinated and terrified me. Not because I felt any specific sympathy for Ukraine or its corrupt government, but because I could see parallels to the history of my own country.

Ukraine started out as an autonomous part of a greater empire, the Soviet Union, and slowly developed its own fledgeling national identity. This identity is still young and not fully developed, but it still exists as something separate from Russia. Now it has had 30 years to create its own independent identity, customs and nationhood that make it out to be something unique.

My country, Finland, has had a very similar history. First, we were Swedes, then an independent Grand Duchy of Russia that allowed for the creation of a new national identity, and finally a country independent of Russia. We too had 30 years to develop a national identity as an independent nation before our old overlord came demanding us to return to the fold. Ukraine now faces a situation similar to what Finland faced in the Winter War.

Despite being a full-blooded Chukhna, I have always had a deep respect and adoration for Russia. I have even described myself as a Russophile. Since I was a child, I've had the chance to travel in Russia and always felt a deep spiritual and emotional connection to it. Something that is probably not too far from the love affair that people like Sir Enoch Powell and Yuri Bezmenov had with India. I learned (but never mastered) the language, made many great friends and even briefly considered converting to Orthodoxy, the religion of my East Karelian ancestors. I felt that, despite its authoritarianism, Russia was a strong and patriotic nation that would be able to hold its own in the world. With time, I thought, Russia could open up, but keep its strong national identity. Something that very few countries in this world are able to achieve. Something that could serve as an example to the entire world, including the West.

Now, I feel that that dream has been destroyed. Russia has made itself an international pariah. Any support for Russians or Russian identity will be faced with utter hostility from the West. All this while Russia destroys itself economically turning itself, seemingly intentionally, into a failed state. I do not see the current Russian government lasting for more than a few years. After that, there will be a new order in Russia that could turn it into something similar to the Western globalized states that lack any sense of unity or national spirit. The globalists will win in Russia and they will not need to fire a single shot.

I support Ukraine because I feel that every nation that is willing to fight for its independence has earned the right to exist.

I support Ukraine because the only way I see Russia retaining even a shred of itself is if has to reconsider its options and retreats.

I support Ukraine because I love Russia, and I hate seeing what it has become.

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

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>Literally a Two Party State where you can only vote for powerful handpicked Geriatric Boomers and people vote based on what the media tells them to vote

At least a Autocracy is honest. At least you're aware that the country is in the hands of a single person, instead of the people being constantly cheated and fooled in a endless cycle of "Hope, Cope, Hope, Cope".
America is a Autocracy too, the fact that you can "choose" two instead of none does not make it better.