Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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I doubt that Putin wants to take everything east of the Dnieper as part of some Southwest Russia People's Republic or some shit.

I doubt he has the capability to hold the territory. He can take it from Ukraine, can he spend the blood and treasure to keep the Ukrainians living there from rebelling and making it a quagmire for Russian occupation troops that would have to stay there or the Ukrainians living there would rebel and overthrow their new masters in Donetsk and Luhansk pretty quick

His safest bet is to take the western half of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts that the Kiev government controlled until last week, add them to the DPR and LPR, and then annex that territory or annex it in all but name. Insurgency worries way lower there. Make Ukraine promise not to join NATO or take Western military aid, he wins, end of the day

Russia occupying the entire east half of Ukraine is a quagmire headache waiting to happen
 
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There is a higher probability, putting aside Tim Pool's alarmism on this, of a hypothetical civil war happening than Americans willing to go die in the Ukraine for another kike.

As far as a hypothetical civil war goes, I expect California and New York to not allow Trump's name on the ballot in 2024 as you watch, I am calling it now.

The Democrats will attempt even more retarded methods of rigging the election, that are even too insane by African or Middle Eastern standards of sham elections.

Then I expect things to even break down faster if Trump wins in 2024.

We are not dealing with people living in reality, we are dealing with loons who can't let go of Nixon winning in 1968 and 1972. Bush and Trump winning is an extension of that.
 
While I always believed the Russians were weak comparative to their size, the Ukraine Twitter posting making it seem like they are winning is questionable at best. I just don't get the end game for them with it. I guess propaganda for their own people, but it's bordering on "Russia is a pushover" territory and it's going to lead to their own people becoming complacent.

From a strategic sense, Ukraine can win if they outlast a stretched and ragged Russian supply chain but not if their people turn this into some BLM riot level of defending their territory.
 
Better make this one count. Maybe one of those machine generated abominations?
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I don't think the arming of civilians is so much to help right now in open battle. Rather it's an open threat on what will happen if they are occupied. Daily hit and run attacks and all that.
It's a good way to get into the heads of Russian troops that any/all civilians could be out to get them. That way they can hope some Ivan gets itchy trigger finger and ukrain has their "Russians are butchering civilians" headlines around the world.
 
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Kharkov was getting shredded by bombs earlier today. It was seemingly caused by a BM-30 Smerch (link).

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Here's some close-up footage for that (link).

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Ukrainian civies in Berdyansk protest against the Russian occupation (link).

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"Saboteurs" get captured at Zhuliany aiport in Kiev (link).

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Why the absolute fuck would you protest against an invading force? That's insane. Join the fucking military you cucks. They are accepting literally anyone in kyiv
 
Because they are a supposed world power who cant deal with a Military comprised of mostly light infantry without needing to call in Belarus as an ally and needs to threaten the world by suggesting they will use nukes. It's fucking sad.

This is an autistic take, but I still love you. The United States gave Poland their own fucking command in Iraq during 2003. Not using your allies is peak autism. If you can get some other retard to die for your country, you do that.

"Russia is able to boss another country into dying for it! Super weak!"
 
Now obviously the Russians and Ukies' relationship with one another is nothing at all like the Japanese and the Chinese, but I can't help but think that mass arming of civilians is going to result in a completely avoidable large scale atrocity (much like how this war is happening at all, in my completely uneducated view, because of long term failures of diplomacy), if it hasn't already. I don't mean small incidents where somebody shoots up an ambulance because they're a jumpy retard or indirect incidents where some civilians get caught in an artillery barrage because you're shelling an urban target and that just happens no matter who you are, I'm talking history lecture bold text post-war monument level fuckup.
I fucking hope not, because christ...as brutal as the Japanese were the Chinese were more than happy to kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of their own if it meant halting their advance by breaking dams above their own civilian areas.
 
From a strategic sense, Ukraine can win if they outlast a stretched and ragged Russian supply chain but not if their people turn this into some BLM riot level of defending their territory.
Well they're already shooting eachother because "muh saboteur" or they are in a green SUV. I doubt the hysteria is going to reduce as Russian forces get closer.
 
What's even crazier is we're seeing the same types of rhetoric from the left that you saw after 9/11 under Bush. A lot of these fucking retards were growing up when that shit happened (and probably still appose it to this day) but are literally fucking repeating it. We are doomed to repeat the same mistakes until they end in nuclear Armageddon.

It's also amazing how quickly the left has become bigger nationalists than the right over night without suffering any whiplash. These asshats have no self awareness, I'm starting to believe the NPC meme might be literally true. These people must not actually have a soul.
The left wing are not nationalists, they view themselves as the kind of folks at home in a one world government like Star Trek or EarthGov from Dead Space.

They just using the American flag to the same moral equivalent that Bush and the neocons used the Bible to justify another crusade.
 
I fucking hope not, because christ...as brutal as the Japanese were the Chinese were more than happy to kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of their own if it meant halting their advance by breaking dams above their own civilian areas.
To be fair, the Chinese were pretty unique when it comes to the brutality of the wars they wage.

Never forget:
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Only the Mongols matched the Chinese in terms of sheer brutality before the modern era.
 
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