Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Matt Damon]

Just like the US paranoia over Japanese-Americans in WWII for fear of them being spies. Technology may change, but it’s amazing how those same justifications will still be there. Even funnier coming from the type of people that claim they aren’t racist.

Turns out the only difference between then and now is that people will post on Twitter about how empathetic and cosmopolitan and open-minded they are right after they get done lynching whatever the undesirable group of the day is.

 

[Captain Manning]

Here’s the thing though, don’t some people WANT the US to stop being the world police so the other countries will be forced to deal with their own shit?

I sure as hell do.

Like, I feel bad for Ukraine, but this isn't our fucking fight.

Idiots are calling for no-fly zone...that means certain global conflict between the US/NATO and Russia. I don't think these imbecils understand that would entail shooting down Russian planes and the start of WW3.

Yes.

This came up in 2016 during the Syrian thing.

Timestamped:

"Controlling all the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia." - Gen. Dunford.

But what the fuck does Dunford know. He's just a Four Star General.

 

[MrJokerRager]

good interview if true and his words add more leverage to the fact that the ukies are mortaring themselves either accidently or on purpose.

I basically copied the entire piece here.

In this thread, I'll be summarizing an interview with Vladimir Trukhan, a Colonel who serves at the Central Office of the Ministry of Defense of Russia. Obviously, it's heavy on Russian propaganda, but I think it's still helpful to understand a few things & the RU perspective.
“There are no conscripts in the military operation. Only trained professionals. That's why Belarus doesn't participate, their army is all conscripts. So if someone is squealing about ‘corpses of Russian conscripts’, you can spit in his face.”
“The Ukrainian number of 3500 Russians KIA is ridiculous. Such a number of dead would mean several times the number of wounded, which means that all roads would be jammed with ambulances, plus mass deployment of field hospitals — it would be impossible to hide this.”
“The cases of solitary Russian POWs, which Banderite propaganda spins, are unlikely: an AWOL soldier who went to a neighboring village to buy moonshine could be captured, but he is not a fighter, he is a laggard. Single soldiers don't break away during fights.”
“Incidents of convoys being burned on the march are possible, it's war, things happen. Someone made a mistake, didn't keep track, had to abandon vehicles with empty tanks. We assume that the abandoned convoys are being burned by the AFU retroactively for staged videos.”
“The same with ‘supplies that'll last only 3-4 days’; a fairy tale of nonsense. Military operations of this level are prepared for at least several months, everything is calculated and stockpiled in advance with excessive redundancy for all cases.”
“The main idea of the Russian Army is ‘we are not Americans’. They are the ones who, when they see something or someone in their way, first throw a grenade and then ask questions. Nobody is going to produce mountains of corpses, if a person does not offer resistance, why shoot?”
“Handing out weapons to the unprepared population, as well as all sorts of ‘Molotov cocktails’ against professionals, is ridiculous idiocy. Three or four stun grenades is enough to make them shit themselves on the spot, drop their weapons and run away.”
“The Kadyrovtsy, specifically trained to deal with terrorists in urban environments, will mop up the Nazis.”
“Russian forces participating in the operation do not use mortars. All mortar shelling in residential areas, especially in senseless places, where there is no military or energy infrastructure, are provocations by the AFU & terrorists in order to influence the local population.”
“To summarize, there are no non-professionals in the operation. The operation was prepared well in advance in all respects and the plan has a lot of ramifications for all kinds of events.”

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Oh my. I just realized as I watch Jen's lie-a-thon that covers tomorrows SOTU.
That would be the perfect time to take Kiev. That's controlling a news cycle and Brandon would collapse under the stress

Oh good . If you accept that the timing of the first push was intentionally after Brandon sundowned you can basically assume that everything has been timed around the SotU address.

Which would explain why a very rapid assault seemed to suddenly slow. So now we try to guess what’ll it be …

 

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[Sexual Chocolate]

I just can't see how it won't be used as justification and a support base for

I think the track record for sanctions effecting regime change stands at about zero. It didn't get rid of Saddam or the Ayatollah, Cuba is still communist, the Kims are still in power, and Maduro is still president of Venezuela despite the US pretending some random other guy is the real president.

They're pretty good at making poor people's lives poorer and shittier while helping their rulers - who still get to live in palaces - focus their anger on the hated foreign enemy tho.

 

[b0x]

Fucking pompous pep talk with a bunch of muh fascism. Who are these fascists that people need to be liberated from? May be ukrainian people just love their fascists, no?

You make it sound like it's a new thing

 

[mr.moon1488]

I already posted a complete OCR translated version like 10 pages ago.

I still can't tell where the gotcha is in this post. You keep harping on about it like you've found the secret to owning the Russiaboos and that now Putin stands no chance.

He wants people here to stop supporting Russia because they make cringy fascism comments, and instead support the Eastern European IDF.

 

[Scotsman]

Appeal of the group commander to personnel.
Comrade soldiers, sergeants, ncos and officers!

The threat of Fascism over Ukraine has forced the decision taken by President of Russia - High Commander of the Armed Forces of our country.
Today followers of the fascist regime, under the guise of state and political members of Ukraine, are engaged in highly hostile politics against its own people and forcing the ideology of the Hitler's Germany from WWII time period.
During past 7 years, in south-east of Ukraine, in Lugansk and Donetsk Republics, Armed forces of Ukraine are engaged in active military action to destroy Russian speaking niggers.
Today, the number of killed civilians already reached 13 thousand people, women and children, daily shelling of civilian quarters of cities and towns on the territory of these republics. They are creating unbearable living conditions on the territory of these republics. Destroyed are cultural and historical values of our brotherly ukrainian and russian speaking people.
... sorry, this drivel is long
People of Donbas and Ukraine are tired of fascists and those who are trying to turn history (clock) back, splitting our brotherly nations.
...
People of Russia supports you and trusts that you will do everything possible to liberate people of Ukraine and Donbas from fascist bondage.
...
Our great and grandfathers already liberated Kiev from fascist evil. Time comes to repeat their heroic deed.
...
Enemy will be crushed, victory will be ours!

Commander of the Paratrooper (air-desant) Forces

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I am not trying to rub my dick in putinbros faces, just framing the conversation and letting kiwi non slav niggers know what's up

Fucking pompous pep talk with a bunch of muh fascism. Who are these fascists that people need to be liberated from? May be ukrainian people just love their fascists, no?

I honestly don’t understand why you’re acting like you’ve owned the “putinbros”.

You’ve posted an information leaflet that seems to reiterate what Putin has already stated publicly.

As for the “fascists” he’s talking about, I’m assuming he’s talking about the Azov Battalion, their supporters and the officials who would let a military unit like that exist in their country.

 

[дядя Боря]

I already posted a complete OCR translated version like 10 pages ago.

I still can't tell where the gotcha is in this post. You keep harping on about it like you've found the secret to owning the Russiaboos and that now Putin stands no chance.

yeah, I saw that, pretty cool


so what's this "fascist bondage" he is talking about? Do you see any "fascist bondage"? This is like a fucking S&M invitation.

If there are these secret fascists that no one names, would it not be easier to just take them out with novichok and spare all the death and destruction?

do you see people with flowers lined up along the road to greet their liberators from "fascist bondage"?

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

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"The A-10 is obsolete in the 21st century. There will be no Fulda Gap scenario" lol

The A-10 is a sitting duck to modern AA missiles and literally any fighter yet, its a Modern day Stuka.

 

[Jump]

Only disagreeing with you because Germany/Netherlands have LNG storage, so they don't have to replace it over night.
Also they have had 8 years since Putin last fucked around during winter knowing the Eurocucks wouldn't do anything. In those past 8 years they have only become MORE dependent on Russian natural gas.
There are alternatives. The US east cost ports have enough LNG capacity to replace russian gas, but it is more expensive and while the US can supply Euro has significant bottle necks at their ports due to border slapfights.

And just because they are exempt from sanctions doesn't mean that they would stay that way when missles start flying. It is a huge strategic blunder.

Again, I hate Globohomo and admire Putin's based responses to Jews, Niggers, Faggots and Trannies. But he is an expansionist powermonger and it is utter retardation to allow him to maintain any power over you if you aren't Russian. It'd be like middle east countries depending on the US for water.

That chart covers the local storage. Local storage still wont replace the chunk that comes from Russia. So if Russia shuts the flow off and you start drawing off your local storage you now have to figure out how to replace 44% of your LNG soon.

Germans may put up with higher prices but will they put up with rolling blackouts? Shutting down of industry? No heat in their homes? Over shithole Ukraine?

And if the USA somehow ramps up enough to make up the gap in oil (I don't see it with progressives in charge) will the Americans put up with a massive spike in gas prices? Maybe TPTB thinks this is coming and that's why they are laying the Ukraine stuff on so thick in mass media?
They can finally buck break our love of free movement via the automobile and lay the blame all on Putin. Never let a crisis go to waste!

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

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Because we abandoned God and the small souled urban bugman will worship anything in place of that. Not that I expect an Asian bugman to understand that.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

I honestly don’t understand why you’re acting like you’ve owned the “putinbros”.

You’ve posted an information leaflet that seems to reiterate what Putin has already stated publicly.

As for the “fascists” he’s talking about, I’m assuming he’s talking about the Azov Battalion, their supporters and the officials who would let a military unit like that exist in their country.

The fact that he doesn't understand how this isn't a complete own is just indicative that he has self-isolated in an echo chamber and leaves it solely to screechpost here in an attempt to cope/sneed/dilate about the great injustice being done to his mother(land).

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I think the track record for sanctions effecting regime change stands at about zero. It didn't get rid of Saddam or the Ayatollah, Cuba is still communist, the Kims are still in power, and Maduro is still president of Venezuela despite the US pretending some random other guy is the real president.

They're pretty good at making poor people's lives poorer and shittier while helping their rulers - who still get to live in palaces - focus their anger on the hated foreign enemy tho.

Sanctions work great on enriching those on both sides with the wherewithal and desire to continue the flow “against the tide”.

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

Interesting! It’s in Poland, right up against the northern border of Ukraine. Screenshot behind spoilers below:


I went back and followed that little fella. He landed right up next to Ukraine border and seems to have been loaded onto a trailer? Lots of stuff happening at that site this afternoon, screenshots behind spoiler tags

so the little chap starts out in Frankfurt (Germany) and lands in Rzeszów (Poland) - this is pretty much directly across the Ukraine border from Lviv, which is more or less a straight line from Kyiv. The airport is grandly titled ‘international’ but I just looked at it via satellite images doesn’t look very big (funnily enough it is marked as ‘busier than usual’ right now)

The US Army C-12U-3 looks to get loaded onto a trailer or something? I added a screen record of flightrader24.com.

this was around 2pm Moscow time

There’s a bunch of other stuff in the area, including c130s belonging to Poland, Greece and the US Air Forces, at least 4 US Blackhawks, that Redeye thingy that LaxerBRO described above, some sort of Polish government plane, a USAF learjet, a couple of mysterious light aircraft with ‘Royal Star’ in their names, something belonging to the army of teeny-tiny Luxembourg (population 600 thousand) and an Airbus flying from Moscow to Istanbul that probably shouldn’t have been in Poland’s airspace. Screenshot dump below:

Nice work! It looks like they're using this airport kind of like a forward base.

Planes bring U.S. troops to Poland, with most expected on Monday

Two U.S. military planes could be seen landing at a Polish airport on Monday morning and more were expected later in the day, bringing the bulk of the extra troops that President Joe Biden ordered to Europe last week over the Ukraine crisis.

www.reuters.com

The Falcon callsign is also interesting. Some pretty important folks or equipment is getting moved up here.

 

[Übertroon]

I already posted a complete OCR translated version like 10 pages ago.

I still can't tell where the gotcha is in this post. You keep harping on about it like you've found the secret to owning the Russiaboos and that now Putin stands no chance.

I think the point wasn't that the document makes Putin lose, but that it reads exactly like some screeching burger liberal complaining about fascism. In the end it doesn't matter if you're pro russia or pro globohomo, the enemy will always seemingly be the fascists. It's just a conga line of people calling each other nazis.

Now to be fair Ukraine is a hotbed for would-be national socialists, but that does in no way justify putin's war of aggression unless you view the existence of nazis as worse than a full on invasion

 

[Fcret]

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It's always Asian girls trying to overanalyze why they want to fuck white dudes. You never see Asian dudes having an identity crisis about smashing some blonde puss.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Inflation is a wonderful way to deflate a housing bubble without deflating it. Perhaps that’s what is intended ….

Affordability index, Quaifying for a loan changes dramatically. Variable rate holders can't meet their payments
Seems we had that not too long ago.
Some houses only dropped 40% in value

 

[Oxous]

Thank you for doing the bare minimum and not going totally full warhawk, fags.