Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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(in minor key)

"Ve have big ol' convoy/trucking trooo night/Ve have mighty convoy/is be-autiful sight/come on, join convoy/nothing get in vay/ roll zhis blyating convoy/across zhe Ukraine!"
if The Honkening manages to even do a run-in amongst all this bullshit I will forgive every capeshit nerd who tried to declare anybody any avengers
 
Americans still using M1 Brownings, M16s and Abrams tanks, US Army still stuck in the 1980s it seems!
You may mock the Abrams and the A-10 all you please, but do not you dare mock the mighty M2.

(also, that's ignoring the substantial upgrades all of this "80s" gear has received over the years. Even the M2 finally got one when they realized that quick-change barrels beat adjustable headspace.)
 
(in minor key)

"Ve have big ol' convoy/trucking trooo night/Ve have mighty convoy/is be-autiful sight/come on, join convoy/nothing get in vay/ roll zhis blyating convoy/across zhe Ukraine!"
I says, "Pig Pen, from here on
It's wall-to-wall bears"
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
Says, "Bash the Wall, we gonna see"
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
Well, them big red bears
Must'a been in the bush
Dumb, dumb, dumb
This is 'cause we didn't see a one all day
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
So we raked up the leaves
And we shook out the tree
Dumb, dumb, dumb
This is 'til they finally had something to say
Dumb, dumb, dumb
You got it
Comrade Duck, you have been given until daybreak in Murmansk to get your cotton-pickin' trucks out of the U. S. S. of R. You will copy!
Well, we shot them rigs
Through Salt Mine City
Dumb, dumb
With a hammer and a sickle on down
Dumb, dumb
 
What? The EU is an economic union, there’s no obligation to defend an EU state.
Technically the mutual defense clause would imply that they do, but "obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power" is a very broad concept that could be fulfilled by sending a box of crackers through economy mail.
 
idk what putin even hopes to accomplish tbh, even if he absorbs all ukraine he has

1. tons of other nations who will most likely be accepted immediately into nato

2. a bitter and costly and ruinous insurgency lasting years if his cobbled together decrepit empire lasts long enough unlike the last one he creams over in his sleep

3. impending hardship and inability for expansion or economic growth with nearly all the world hating your guts and the rest quietly humming in the corner not wanting to be seen as being too pro-you.

he should know all about failed invasions and poor logistics since hes such a soviet fanboy that was their entire claim to fame that wasnt all the bitter embarrassments they suffered.

it means fuck you russia were joining the west and your crybully antics are pushing us further into their economic block. i actually dont think putin sees the value in that because i think people ascribed too much rationality to putin and assumed this was all about preventing ukraine from just being too buddy buddy economically with the west vs russia but i think its because hes still under the delusion that his granny of a nation state can actually pose a viable threat outside his aging nukes and thinks he can still wage world war and therefore needs to not be bordered by "hostile nations" and to capture strategic points to "thwart them".
I look at Russia like this. They moved into china's sphere of influence and they're actively helping each other in intelligence fields. Unless the west actually sanctions china and hurts China we could sanction Russia all we want and it won't mean jack shit because India and china are not party to the same regulations. Russia can simply sell it's grains and oil to china. Sure china might be cut out of the petrodollar but Russia could say china buy our rubble's instead and trade oil in rubble's and unlike some small country in Africa Russia and china have the military might and nukes to say fuck you to the imf financial system.
 
Technically the mutual defense clause would imply that they do, but "obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power" is a very broad concept that could be fulfilled by sending a box of crackers through economy mail.
it seems like they’re already sending them crackers so i think that’s covered
 
Here are two photos from (allegedly) Kharkov from a rutracker thread.
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I look at Russia like this. They moved into china's sphere of influence and they're actively helping each other in intelligence fields. Unless the west actually sanctions china and hurts China we could sanction Russia all we want and it won't mean jack shit because India and china are not party to the same regulations. Russia can simply sell it's grains and oil to china. Sure china might be cut out of the petrodollar but Russia could say china buy our rubble's instead and trade oil in rubble's and unlike some small country in Africa Russia and china have the military might and nukes to say fuck you to the imf financial system.
they're still good enough with Winnie that Xi dropped the dime to Putin about Team Biden being THAT FUCKING STUPID
 
You may mock the Abrams and the A-10 all you please, but do not you dare mock the mighty M2.

(also, that's ignoring the substantial upgrades all of this "80s" gear has received over the years. Even the M2 finally got one when they realized that quick-change barrels beat adjustable headspace.)

Goddammit people my point was people were saying the Russians were stuck in the 1980s because they still use BRDM, T-72 variants etc
 
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