Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[MG-34]

If those were videos of American forces, it would NEVER see the light of day in the American mainstream media. Every military and every war is full of stuff like that. But no American
equipment ever got stolen in Iraq. The Afghan National Army never had Taliban serving in it. No convoy got fucked in Iraq. We never paid big money to Iraqis to "help" the US
military who were fully on the other side. Nobody ever got led into an ambush.

Just a few months ago, the United States went through one of its greatest and most embarassing humiliations in our history in Afghanistan. We dealt with total military failure,
humiliation, people lying about the situation, incompetence and so on by just moving on like it had never happened at all.

We had a single convoy get lost during the Iraq invasion and get captured by the Iraq army and it was a major scandal that stuck on the news for weeks. We never had Abrams tanks drive aimlessly in the desert until they ran out of gas or steal fuel from local gas stations. Also there was no mass censorship. Stop being disingenuous to deflect Based Russia's shortcomings. We had constant news coverage about Taliban working in the ANA, mass fraud, money mismanagement and soldiers being ambushed. Are you even American or just assuming that stuff never reached American news outlets?

Yeah imagine if america left a bunch of equipment to be captured, had unrealistic assessments of timelines, suffered needless casualties, and killed a bunch of civilians pointlessly

Point out some videos of M1 tanks getting lost then losing their turrets to ATGMs or US soldiers running out of food and looting Iraqi grocery stores.

 

[IKOL]

I honestly don’t understand why you’re acting like you’ve owned the “putinbros”.

You’ve posted an information leaflet that seems to reiterate what Putin has already stated publicly.

As for the “fascists” he’s talking about, I’m assuming he’s talking about the Azov Battalion, their supporters and the officials who would let a military unit like that exist in their country.

because he's typical redditpilled deranged faggot, isn't that obvious?

 

[MeltyTW]

Yeah imagine if america left a bunch of equipment to be captured, had unrealistic assessments of timelines, suffered needless casualties, and killed a bunch of civilians pointlessly

You're talking the occupation after vs the initial Invasion which is usually quick and easy and vehicles being left after withdrawal vs being left during an active Invasio, massive fuck ups but russia is speed running our fuck ups in after of days to minutes when it took us years.

It's like decrying a flawed marriage that broke up ten years in vs one at that level before they even finish saying I do

 

[Strix454]

They gave up those nukes in the 1990s as the US convinced them to do so in order for eastern Ukraine not to break off.

At that time, Ukraine was basically run from Moscow. People keep spreading the lie that somehow the 1994 government in Ukraine
was some sort nationalist regime that had a choice in the agreement. They didn't. The Russians told them to sign it
and they signed.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Lol the germans have "canceled" nordstream 2 like 5 times now. It'll be up and running in 6 months from now, watch. Also a united Europe is a total farce, those niggas barely tolerate each other even at the best of times.

Europe is a lot like Asia where the countries that neighbor each other hate each other the most. At best, Europe was mostly unified under the Roman Empire for a very short time within that, and the Roman Empire didn’t even reach all of Europe.

 

[LeChampion1992]

It works in the same way one might bludgeon a nail into a piece of wood by thumping your head repeatedly onto it. Also it's a good thing they don't have air supremacy fuck the soviets I hope they bury a generation of young men with what little they have left to do so with.

Bro tell me you're either Ukrainian or gay without telling me you're either Ukrainian or gay.

 

[Mr Bunny]

Lol the germans have "canceled" nordstream 2 like 5 times now. It'll be up and running in 6 months from now, watch. Also a united Europe is a total farce, those niggas barely tolerate each other even at the best of times.

Any and all things showing "United Europe" should be considered virtue singling till proven otherwise, the only countries I trust are the UK and Poland.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Just wait till they have people with guns in houses and apartment blocks ambushing them. Shit could get Guerilla real fast.

Shit would get Grozny real fast. I hope not, for people just wanting to be left alone. Like me.

 

[verissimus]

Yeah imagine if america left a bunch of equipment to be captured, had unrealistic assessments of timelines and the degree of local support,suffered needless casualties, and killed a bunch of civilians pointlessly

You're just reinforcing that guys point.

 

[IKOL]

yeah, I saw that, pretty cool


so what's this "fascist bondage" he is talking about? Do you see any "fascist bondage"? This is like a fucking S&M invitation.

If there are these secret fascists that no one names, would it not be easier to just take them out with novichok and spare all the death and destruction?

do you see people with flowers lined up along the road to greet their liberators from "fascist bondage"?

Borya unironically Kurt Cobain yourself. stop your faggot shilling and just off your self, in Ellen Ring.

 

[Richardface]

Point out some videos of M1 tanks getting lost then losing their turrets to ATGMs or US soldiers running out of food and looting Iraqi grocery stores.

I was responding to your original argument, not the more defensible one you just made when called on it

 

[El Iluminado]

ahh yes. it’s all 4D chess.

from the lost convoys asking for directions and running out of gas, to the nut to butt convoys the defies all modern military doctrine, not to mention logic considering the constant barrage of fucking tweets stating literally every piece of military arsenal that’s being donated to the Ukraine in real time.

You think that the second CyberAttack force of the world that was a ble to shut down the US fuel pipes n shiet isn't able to shut down the internet, cell towers, electricity, etc... of a shithole like Ukraine?

 

[The Foldless Brain]

At that time, Ukraine was basically run from Moscow. People keep spreading the lie that somehow the 1994 government in Ukraine
was some sort nationalist regime that had a choice in the agreement. They didn't. The Russians told them to sign it
and they signed.

The entire argument about nukes is pants on head retarded. To repeat, they weren't Drumpf, they didn't have their hands on the nuclear codes. It's like claiming that Germany is a nuclear power because it has American nuclear weapons directed by Americans on its territory.

 

[Strix454]

You're talking the occupation after vs the initial Invasion which is usually quick and easy and vehicles being left after withdrawal vs being left during an active Invasio, massive fuck ups but russia is speed running our fuck ups in after of days to minutes when it took us years.

That is total bullshit. Iraq and Afghanistan were full of lost equipment, massive fuck-ups and speed running into failures from start to finish. There was nothing that happened at the
end of either war that wasn't going on constantly from the start of those wars.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

Putin hoped to win effortlessly or that the people would simply accept him as their leader. This is how he's always operated. It isn't hard to use critical thinking to figure out where he's at now.

How he's always operated? Like when?

Certainly not Chechnya or the Georgia conflict. Syria was just an opportunity to try put new equipment and train soldiers. When do you mean?

 

[XYZpdq]

The entire argument about nukes is pants on head retarded. To repeat, they weren't Drumpf, they didn't have their hands on the nuclear codes. It's like claiming that Germany is a nuclear power because it has American nuclear weapons directed by Americans on its territory.

tbh I'd assume old commie nukes are more than private proof to be be gopnick proof that they have a big lever to pull labeled "not die" to "everybody dies" in commierunes

 

[God of Nothing]

Some documented encounters with the white feather girls of World War 1:
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leave women alone for one period of time while you're out fighting a war and you come back to find them calling you a pussy for staying home

 

[MG-34]

I was responding to your original argument, not the more defensible one you just made when called on it

Your entire argument is "The Russians can't be wrong because the United States did bad stuff too". The US leaving shit in Afghanistan to turn over to the ANA who then folded is a blunder, but not a blunder on a comparable scale of seeing your soldiers get separated then get fucked up by yokels with ATGMs on tiktok or whatever the latest social media fad is.

 

[redeyejedi]

Servicemen of the Ukrainian special forces units are firing from RPG-26 at Russian troops in the village. Kalinovka, west of Kyiv.

 

[Übertroon]

The problem of Ukrainian soldiers in the rear seems to have become a real issue. The occupation forces are so thin it's down to sometimes a lone APC