Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Turk on the lurk]

Residental area in Kherson is getting shelled.

Same place, city water pumping station after attack.

 

[Happy Fish]

I know optics is everything, but can't people come up with something other than Nazis?

I'd say get used to it being overused even more than it already is.

 

[biozeminadae1]

An instruction on how to drive a BTR just in case
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I thought these things didn't have gas...

 

[PittyKitty]

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https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1498610240631324674

No planes from Poland.
Also:
NATO will NOT enter conflict.

In all fairness there's no other source of this beside this one. I d expect him to at least publicly denounce it somewhere personally (his own Twitter) .
Duda didn't say that anywhere else.

 

[NeonNazi]

I'm not sure pumping up literal Nazis is a good idea, especially in front of Russians raised on Nazis bad since birth.

I think nazis are more popular than Russia at the moment

 

[Michael Janke]

If you dumb faggots cannot start figuring this out I'm just going to threadban you.
I asked XenForo for fucking years to make copy+paste thumbnail by default but they refuse. It's up to you to learn to be a heterosexual.

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let me try.
Ukraininan Resistance, Branjov Hereski standing at defense against russian invaders.

 

[Coccxys]

Residental area in Kherson is getting shelled.
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Same place, city water pumping station after attack.
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I mean personally I'd probably stop filming and get the hell out of the building I'm in, or at least move to the ground floor/away from shit like glass.

 

[No_one]

In all fairness there's no other source of this beside this one. I d expect him to at least public denounce it somewhere personally.
Duda didn't say that anywhere else.

He actually did, during a press conference.
"We are not sending our planes to Ukraine because that would be a military interference in the conflict. NATO is not a part of this war".
Edit: link in PL.

 

[Richardface]

All is well, and all shall be well

 

[Ted_Logan]

In other news YouTube decided to be retards



And of course more dying nothing new

 

[mr.moon1488]

Ukraine is in a tough spot which is why it's isolated in the international community and easy pickings for Russia.

The USSR had moved a lot of ethnic Russians throughout the USSR and many of them and their children still live there. Tiraspol is a good example of this. Thriving industrial center in the USSR, dilapidated de facto independent state in Moldova today. Moldova had a president after the breakup of the USSR who encouraged Moldovan nationalism and this meant alienating ethnic Russians. Tiraspol declared independence as the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (Transnistria in English, though PMR says this is a name Nazis invented and they don't like it).

Forward from the 1990s to the early 2010s, Ukraine experienced a surge of pro-Ukrainian nationalism and they elected a president who encouraged the Ukrainianization of the country and the adoption of Ukrainian by Russian ethnics who inhabit the southern and eastern parts of Ukraine along the Black Sea which the USSR had an interest in securing. This alienates the Russian population resulting in the Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics declaring de facto independence from Ukraine.

This is a common meme in the post-soviet countries, as you can see. There's similar situations in Georgia with Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Language and ethnicity are important, regardless of what people say, and that is why these regions are loyal to Russia.

I believe what Putin wants is everything east of Dniepr, the Black Sea shore all the way to Odessa, and he wants to connect to Pridnestrovia. This brings all the Russians under his wing and secures the Black Sea again.


Ukraine isn't innocent, nor is Moldova. They did alienate their ethnic Russians. The guy I met in Pridnestrovia was very anti-racist and said that the concept of race and nation did not exist in the USSR, and in the post-USSR people have become racist towards Russians. Moldvans and Ukrainians would say the Russians have no place in their country and claim the USSR deliberately put Russian diaspora in their countries to destroy their identities and make them all Russian (they did).

Ukraine in particular made a hero out of Stepan Bandera. Very interesting guy. In the WW2 he wanted an independent Ukraine and was a Nazi collaborationist who celebrated their ideas. A literal Wehraboo Nazi LARPer, he unilaterally declared independence for Ukraine and was arrested by the Gestapo for it. Later in the war when things weren't going as well they released him with no hard feelings to try and prop up an anti-USSR Ukrainian government, but by then that ship had sailed and it didn't see any success.

So that's Russia's claim to denazification. Evil Ukrainian nationalists hailing the world's first Nazi LARPer, oppressing the poor Russian ethnics who probably shouldn't be there to begin with.

Ukraine has been behaving almost identically to Israel throughout this entire conflict. What is your take on that?

Edit:
It just seems really bizarre to me that if this was an ethnic Ukrainian vs ethnic Russian conflict, that we'd see such a hard push to get NATO directly involved since in that case, neither side would actually be friendly with NATO.

 

[Coccxys]

In other news YouTube decided to be retards

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So banning news outlets that give a different perspective on a war openly and probably being cheered for it. How did we end up in this state? It's not like I have to agree with everything I watch/read (which is becoming a lost nuance in the world, I once got physically attacked because I was reading atlas shrugged on a train journey) and it becomes very suspicious when the sources I am "allowed" to get information from get reduced to one's that broadly agree with eachother.

 

[Saleh]

70 soldiers killed are horrific casualties by today's standards

Russia is totally ratcheting up it's efforts to win by any means necessary.

 

[Happy Fish]

In other news YouTube decided to be retards

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And of course more dying nothing new

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That fucking sucks. I haven't watched in years but RT has good documentaries, unless it was only their main channel they blocked in which case, meh youtube is just being youtube

Ed: No their documentary channel is still there so who cares

 

[Ted_Logan]

So banning news outlets that give a different perspective on a war openly and probably being cheered for it. How did we end up in this state? It's not like I have to agree with everything I watch and it becomes very suspicious when the sources I am "allowed" to get information from get reduced to one's that broadly agree with eachother.

That I agree with to me seem sus I rather see both sides of a story then only one side. The censoreship is getting high.

 

[Retired Junta Member]

So banning news outlets that give a different perspective on a war openly and probably being cheered for it. How did we end up in this state? It's not like I have to agree with everything I watch and it becomes very suspicious when the sources I am "allowed" to get information from get reduced to one's that broadly agree with eachother.

It would be cool if someone could make a list of pro Ukraine and pro Russia profile and such to follow, just to check both sides.

 

[Ted_Logan]

It would be cool if someone could make a list of pro Ukraine and pro Russia profile and such to follow, just to check both sides.

Preach!

 

[Manly_Brony]

This is a picture for a german article about the first "ukrainian refugees" arriving in Germany.

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Ukrainian refugees, the Netflix version.

 

[DumbDude42]

I'm not sure pumping up literal Nazis is a good idea, especially in front of Russians raised on Nazis bad since birth.

what else are you gonna do when ~literal nazis~ are the only ones who have the will to stand and fight while all the ~moderate~ cucks are busy fleeing and capitulating left right and center

 

[Richardface]

Russians feeling assertive. Not sure why unless it's bluster

Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast)

Medvedev going off: "There's a French minister who said today that they've declared economic war on us. Watch what you say, gentlemen! And don't forget that economic wars in the history of mankind have often escalated into real ones"

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