Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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JosephStalin said:
In the end, the Russian "victory" will turn out to be very, very expensive for Russia. Already is, in more ways than one.
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Thought that from the very start. Say what you want about Ukie militias, but so long as they have enough buildings that are at least 2 stories high, they can give Russians death from above with lead and molotovs. Combine this with the possibility that Russians are going easy on Ukie infrastructure so they can be used to serve their already bad economy. A fight like this can only result in a semi-pyrrhic win for the victors.
 
MindYourSeabiscuits said:
"A Ukrainian government official told Politico Monday that Ukrainian pilots were already in Poland to start the process of taking control of the 28 MiG-29s they are expecting to be donated. "
Rumor has it that the Ghost of Kiev plans to fly all 28 migs at once, wiping out the Russian air force in one fell swoop.
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That's nothing; after that he'll fly straight into the heart of Moscow to rescue his pilot father Tim Thomerson, who will then help him personally destroy Vladimir Putin in a air-jocks duel.
 
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Mr Bunny said:
Question for us wonderful Americans, what's the story behind the "boo" I noticed it alot.

Like a good Americunt I just call them slavniggers.
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ok prepare for a lesson about autistic internet history, going back almost 20 years
first there was the word "weeaboo", a meaningless nonsense word made up by this webcomic:
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for reasons unknown, it became used as a derogatory term for anime lovers obsessed with all things japan, also shortened to "weeb" in this context ("fucking weebs")
later people began using the "-aboo" ending of this word to mean "obsessed fanboy of a country" in general, most notably in "wehraboo" referring to people who enthusiastically praise and defend the nazi german military (wehrmacht)
so in this case "russiaboo" would refer to a russia fan, etc.
 
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JosephStalin said:
Just started the day. Thread's moving like lightning. Apparently the Russians haven't taken Kharkov and Kyiv yet. Can see drone attacks on Russian columns.

Every day the Russians don't take these cities is a loss for them. They expected a walk-over, didn't get it. If Kyiv is taken, would look for the Ukrainian government to work from Lviv. Am sure they've already set up. Still a lot of Ukraine, actually the vast majority, that hasn't seen a Russian soldier. At the rate things are going, the Ukrainians will never give up, meaning the Russians have to try and take the whole country. Doubt they can do it with forces available.

Still don't understand the Russians' piss-poor planning. You'd think they would have had a solid operations plan already on the shelf, ready for implementation. That's the job of a General Staff. If your operation is properly planned you don't have forces running out of gas, as a rule.

In the end, the Russian "victory" will turn out to be very, very expensive for Russia. Already is, in more ways than one.
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Hi Stalin! (Always feels weird to type)

Taking my info from the best military informed breakdown that I've heard (Task & Purpose's breakdown by DD214ed GWOT Infantryman Chris Cappy, ignore the goofball shit at the beginning, it's actually a detailed tac analysis):


The important points (to me) are this:

>Of the troops that were amassed on the RU/Ukraine border by Russia, only 1/3rd of that force has actually invaded, with the remaining 2/3rd still being kept in reserve.

>The Russian advance stopping at night and only making advances during daylight is indicative that the 1/3rd that was sent in is not NOD equipped.

>Given the inferior equipment and morale of some of the Russian troops witnessed, it's postulated that the Russians have sent in the shoddily equipped Conscript soldiers for the invasion as a method to essentially "scout" and gauge the resistance and response of the Ukrainian forces. This serves a double purpose because it obfuscates the actual power and capability of your military force.

So, if things get rough and resistance is high, they can send in the well equipped professional 2/3 that's in reserve to get things moving, otherwise the meandering results of the conscripts are fine given that they aren't being pushed back, and the fact that Russia DGAF about friendly losses on the same level the west does.

I'm not going to pretend I'm some military geopolitical expert, but this explanation makes sense to me. If you could get the job done for cheaper and less "cost" on their end.

It's essentially if the US decided to invade Canada, and they sent a force of draftees in using recently unmothballed M60 Pattons, M113s (Gavins), M16A2s, and Huey gunships.

Sure, it's going to take longer, you're going to lose a lot of vehicles, and the troop morale will be low.

But it does give you a very effective manner of gauging the enemy resistance at only the loss of draftees, because you send them in with no valuable equipment.

Maybe Russians military is just a retard-fest, but you have to remember, Russia looking weak, but ultimately achieving their strategic and tactical goals is a possible PsyOps objective on their part. This isn't meant to be a show of force, I think. They're actually trying to achieve specific tactical goals, and your enemy looking like a bunch of mouthdrooling retards is oftentimes to their advantage unless it's just going to be strictly posturing.

Maybe we'll soon start seeing T-14s, T-90M Proryv-3s, and Ka-52s getting knocked out en-masse, but so far, all I've seen is shitty mothballed previous gen vehicles getting banged or ditched (possibly due to mechanical failure due to how ancient/unmaintained some of the equipment is).

Maybe I'm off base, but I just remain skeptical of the situation.
 
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Observotron said:
Shit like this is why I'm starting to become more afraid of the West than Russia.

"Too many people are dying, lets escalate the conflict tenfold and risk countless other lives." Sometimes the 'morally right' choice isn't actually the morally right thing to do. It's why the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima is still debated today as the 'right way' to end the war.

Additionally, the fact this clown is a screenwriter highlights why American media has lost all depth and nuance.
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yet when Pink Floyd nigger riots were on, all the kiwi burgers were bitching about lack of force response. Go check that thread.

I am sure that just letting feral niggers run free through their neighborhoods was correct response to de-escalate violence.

:story:

I do admit, when NYC kiwis were shitting bricks, I callously said that shithole just need to be given to niggers.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
like how we used to see exceptional individual replaced with Exceptional Individual.
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ha.

naffatune said:
Thought that from the very start. Say what you want about Ukie militias, but so long as they have enough buildings that are at least 2 stories high, they can give Russians death from above with lead and molotovs. Combine this with the possibility that Russians are going easy on Ukie infrastructure so they can be used to serve their already bad economy. A fight like this can only result in a semi-pyrrhic win for the victors.
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they can sit in their 2 story house while starving and freezing to death.
 
LeChampion1992 said:
Yes it makes logical sense why they're invading. They need a buffer state ideally all of Ukraine would be a perfect for that.
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They don't need a buffer state and in fact they're creating more near by and even bordering nato applicants lol. Idk why you keep circling around to points like this that simply are plainly not true, the costs of war will outweigh any benefit they could wring out of Ukraine, are they going to try and invade Finland next? They've also shown the world you need your nation to have nukes to keep Russia at bay.

The only way that logic makes sense is if you're convinced Russian emaciated excuse for an empireis capable of reclaiming the better part of the iron curtain and becoming a serious threat to the west beyond " ok don't hit them directly openly they have nukes left from when they were something"
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
Yikes, you have cited something from the old times, pre Death of the Internet era. 2002ish.

There was a random comic out there that used the term Weeaboo. It has no meaning.
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Originally, Japanese obsessed Westerners were called Wapanese. Back in 2003, as more and more anime/manga shitters spread out, some of the 4chan anime/manga fans and the ones who didn't want to deal with that shit (like the tabletop games or weapony boards) called them Wapanese. Well, one day someone replaced Wapanese with Weeaboo, like how we used to see exceptional individual replaced with Exceptional Individual.

So Anime and Manga obsessed westerners became Weeaboos.

In time, this spread to other cultures. A foreigner obsessed with Korea is a Koreaboo. A foreigner obsessed with or supporting Russia would be a Russiaboo.
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They called it weeaboo as a work around from wapanese being filtered and banned
 
Humanitarian said:
Idk about that, but China has investments in Ukraine and surely they want to cash in on the reconstruction effort, so they can't go too far in either direction.

BRI in Ukraine:
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(from AEI China Investment Tracker)
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that's true and China has many policies that differ depending on where they are directed. They spread degeneracy in the west while banning femboys domestically.

hence the question of Chinese kiwis who may know this shit. Otherwise there are few podcasters that will chime in eventually.
 
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