Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Coccxys]

Poland apparently will provide the airfields.

Already long since been denied by Poland and NATO. It would be pants shittingly retarded to allow that.

 

[Tamerlane]

You should check this out.

It's a thread about exposed Russian communications.

https://twitter.com/sbreakintl/status/1498619303717142529

Apparently, the Russians have been receiving horrific casualties by American standarts to the west of Kiev (200 KIA, 300 wounded)

Don't believe anything you see while the war is going on. The weak will try to appear strong and the strong weak, no one gains an advantage by telling the truth. Whatever is really going on will take at least months to sort out.

 

[LeChampion1992]

>by American standarts
yeah but by the standards of the country that fought and won stalingrad, these numbers are laughably small

Yeah but this isn't the Russia of Stalingrad this is the Russia ruled by doomed alcoholics and hyper religious oligarchs. This country also knows it can't afford heavy casualties.

Also I don't think they only have 200 killed and 300 wounded I would add an extra Zero to both numbers. I mean how many of these chechnyan and "rebel fighters" are casualties. With how many convoys have been destroyed and caught on convoy it's definitely more then the hundreds. If they're admitting this much it's much worse. Hundreds is easy to explain away but thousands that's where things get testy.

 

[ShittlerNiggler]

So the plan is to have EU planes taking off from Polish airfields and still claim NATO neutrality?

There's no way they'll be that dumb.

They're not dumb they just lie
Their citizens are tho

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

and therein lies the incident. a citizen of a neutral country fighting against russia in that context is an international incident in itself. Thats a massive violation of international law on his part and on canadas part for allowing it. He's not from ukraine and is not a citizen. a canadian caught shooting at and killing russians is going to cause some serious problems for the government. Then again its trudeau so maybe thats not a bad thing. On the other hand killing said canadian puts russia in a serious diplomatic situation regardless of the reason, both because canada is neutral and because of the whole canada is a member of NATO thing

On the other hand, as I said he isn't a citizen and isn't a legally recognized member of the armed forces of ukraine, which means per the geneva convention he has no legal protections as such people are considered to be either spies or illegal partisans, (and are explicitly excluded from being treated as POWs and from the protections granted to them) both of which are subject to summary execution. Not that russia would be wise to exercise that particular clause, let alone in any kind of public manner. If the media ever caught wind of it there would be an international incident regardless of how or why it happened. That isn't the kind of anti russ

I think you're misinterpreting the military and international law context for this.

1. No one inside Canada "induced" these people to leave. There isn't a Ukrainian military recruiter offering to pay for travel, or transporting Canadian citizens. There might be propaganda but there's no individual saying "I'll sign you up for the Ukrainian military right here." Ergo, no offence committed.

2. There's nothing illegal about traveling to a foreign country for purposes of enlisting in their military. See: The French Foreign Legion.

3. You're assuming these people are going to be fighting as irregulars or part of an insurgency. That's not how it's going to work. It's trivial for the Ukrainian government to swear in foreign enlistees, put a uniform on them, and put them through some training or orientation. Boom. Legal combatant.

4. Read about the Spanish Civil War for more information on how this works in practice.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

If you're a Ukranian I know you won't be arond long

Brilliant. In the background I just heard " Reprrsentative Michael Waltz is talking about small scale tactical nukes".

Biden is right
'There's no reason to fear nuclear war'.
Just tiny nukes

The worst part is that dudes a vet. He should know damn well why that's a bad idea.

 

[Vince McMahon]

Already long since been denied by Poland and NATO. It would be pants shittingly retarded to allow that.

Fair enough. I rechecked - some of the airfields have been rebuilt and the damage to runways was overestimated.

 

[MrJokerRager]

There's an ongoing board war between /pol/ and /k/ because of the Russo-Ukrainian War. Most of /k/ is backing Ukraine by laughing at Russia's dog shit performance in the war and /pol/ is backing the Russians. Obviously /k/ is winning because /pol/ is ass hurt as hell and is doing severe mental gymnastics.
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That Tucker thread on /k/ has topkek memes.

/k/ - Thank you /k/, i made a horrible edit of Sam hyde - Weapons - 4chan

Thank you /k/, i made a horrible edit of Sam hyde as the ghost of kiev a few days ago. I posted it h... - "/k/ - Weapons" is 4chan's imageboard for discussing all types of weaponry, from military tanks to guns and knives.

boards.4channel.org

 

[mudwogg]

Yeah ok this is bullshit, it's cope for the Russians that isn't actually necessary, but all strategic and tactical takes in this thread are including mine

In 6 days the Rooski military has advanced in the north and east (along narrow fronts) about the same distance deep into as US did in the first week of invading Iraq and also about the same distance in the south (on a broader front, but the south isn't defended by anywhere near as much Ukrainian soldiers and stuff as Kiev and Kharkov)

The US and Russian advances were both deliberately not as fast as hard as they could have been, for two different reasons. The US did not have a northern front because Turkey wouldn't allow us to use their land as an invasion launch pad. So we deliberately advanced a little slower from Kuwait. Russia wanted to try to decapitate Ukrainian military and government and see if the rest would surrender. They didn't. In week two the US was outpacing its supply lines and had to hold up for almost a week around Najaf to fix the supply problems. If the war is still happening in Ukraine in a week Russia will probably be in a similar situation, needing a pause because the front is advancing too fast for the current supply system

Once the generals decided time to pick things up advances went rather quickly both for the US in Iraq and now for Russia in Ukraine

I've seen weirdos in Theytube and Zogbook (who obviously have no clue about the realities of warfare) thinking the US military as some army of invincible superhumans, claiming BS on the range of, "If the US military was in the Russian Army's place", it would have been done in less than a week. The US invasion force during 2003 in Iraq did face numerous of the same problems the Russians are facing as of present, including having to abandon vehicles.

 

[Mr Bunny]

Poland apparently will provide the airfields.

Poland's getting bombed then.

 

[BradCarter]

Already long since been denied by Poland and NATO. It would be pants shittingly retarded to allow that.

It's like the safe area when you played tag with your friends. Ukraine can bomb Russia all they want but once they get back into Polish airspace you aren't allowed to shoot them down. That's something that's perfectly acceptable in a war

 

[Vince McMahon]

Poland's getting bombed then.

No, it doesn't, I had incorrect information.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

Edit: Earliest Source (so far) found on Twitter: https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1498697710429425672


Unsourced picture on /k/ that depicts the Uke's having captured a fully loaded TOS-1 (that's a thermobaric missile launcher)





With the power this has, the Uke's could wipe out the entire Russian armored column.

I ran it through fotoforensics, and it doesn't show any clear signs of being doctored or altered from what I can see:


The 'proof' that it's in Uke hands is the man in the bottom right (wearing the yellow ID armband).

Reverse image search on Yandex doesn't find any direct match, and none of the related TOS-1 pics have the exact same orientation seen in the photo, so a photoshop (while not impossible) is a little less likely.

If this is true, this bodes incredibly badly for the Russian forces.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Zelensky didn't film any videos from Kyiv in four days, he obviously isn't there anymore.

Hmm I'm going to say he's probably in Lviv if he's still in Ukraine and he didn't flee to another country.

 

[naffatune]

Yes he did, he killed Hitler.

"Hitler did nothing wrong, except killing Hitler"

quote for the ages

 

[ZMOT]

There's an ongoing board war between /pol/ and /k/ because of the Russo-Ukrainian War. Most of /k/ is backing Ukraine by laughing at Russia's dog shit performance in the war and /pol/ is backing the Russians. Obviously /k/ is winning because /pol/ is ass hurt as hell and is doing severe mental gymnastics.

/pol/ never ate jizz muffins, so the winner is clear...

 

[AnOminous]

Anyone good with CAD able to make a 3D model of fighter pilot Sammy? I'm thinking of doing a 1/4 scale bust of him to go with the Ghost of Keev MiG-29 I'm building.

That's autistic as fuck and I approve of it.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Actual picture of the EU in three weeks.

 

[BradCarter]

Putin's approval ratings have reportedly gone up, from 60% to 71%. Top kek

 

[LeChampion1992]

That Tucker thread on /k/ has topkek memes.

/k/ - Thank you /k/, i made a horrible edit of Sam hyde - Weapons - 4chan

Thank you /k/, i made a horrible edit of Sam hyde as the ghost of kiev a few days ago. I posted it h... - "/k/ - Weapons" is 4chan's imageboard for discussing all types of weaponry, from military tanks to guns and knives.

boards.4channel.org

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/Pol/ should not try to take on /k/ the weapons board will ream the shit out of /pol/ 6 ways from Sunday.