Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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What does the sign on the left say?
According to the Ministry of Truth, sure. Except they didn't poll for approval rating, they polled for "Did your trust in the President increase or no". It is obvious the trust in the president who said "We will not invade" and then invaded, sending the country's economy into a death spiral and halving the price of its currency in three days, is at all times high.
What is the current take among the "common" Russian people concerning this whole debacle in Ukraine?
 
On the bright side if there are any survivors they'll be massively redpilled. Hard to give a shit about the violence of misgendering someone when you've had to wear your buddies brains around in your clothes
How do you explain the Mark Milleys of the world?
 
I think those were garbage incinerators. Common at remote work sites where its not feasible to truck trash out.
That sounds like BS,, the russians just dig a trench and use that as landfill,,,
 
Nigger, fucking with foreign countries is one of the few legitimate purviews of the federal government.
Yes it is but fucking with and possibly permanently damaging the world financial system where currently the U.S. rules just because of the dollar, in return for a temporary virtue signaling opportunity, is one of the few things so insanely dumb that please don't do it.
 
Refusing to do business with certain countries has gone on for centuries. It's called an embargo and it's not some new and frightening part of cancel culture
When the very same system of economic control is used as a weapon against both foreign enemies and domestic political undesirables, it absolutely is part of "cancel culture".
 
According to the Ministry of Truth, sure. Except they didn't poll for approval rating, they polled for "Did your trust in the President increase or no". It is obvious the trust in the president who said "We will not invade" and then invaded, sending the country's economy into a death spiral and halving the price of its currency in three days, is at all times high.
War almost universally increases the popularity of a national leader even if they're obviously fucking up and losing. And Russia isn't even going to lose if Putin has a remotely sane end-game.
 
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The chair of the defence committee in the UK wants to go full retard.
Is there some level above full retard? Because attempting to impose a no-fly zone is so absolute retard it has to enter some kind of megatard zone. Does this clown realize that wouldn't possibly work and that Russia isn't some Iraq-level shithole where we can just shoot down their paper airplanes with spitballs?
 
How do you explain the Mark Milleys of the world?
As @Jet Fuel Johnny has detailed, the top brass are almost always just politicians in uniform. Rarely have they been actual warfighters.

Any "deployment" medals they get are usually because they went to the combat zone for a press conference, or something to that effect.
 
Except some Canadians and Brits were prosecuted back home for joining in.
Yes, and Britain explicitly had a law against enlisting in foreign militaries (Foreign Enlistment Act of 1870) although I'm not sure how/if it is in effect today.

Peter Kemp was fortunate to have a friend in the police so although he was a known volunteer, he was never arrested. (Also, IIRC Kemp ordered a British partisan they captured to be executed ... based?)

Anyway, the Republican side in particular had tens of thousands of foreign volunteers to the extent that they were organized into brigades by country.
 
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Is there some level above full retard? Because attempting to impose a no-fly zone is so absolute retard it has to enter some kind of megatard zone. Does this clown realize that wouldn't possibly work and that Russia isn't some Iraq-level shithole where we can just shoot down their paper airplanes with spitballs?
No, you gotta understand something.

Russia bad. Russians bad. Putin bad. Therefore WE MUST DESTROY RUSSIAN EVERYTHING NOW NOW NOW!
 
Putin has a remotely sane end-game.
That's the part that worries me. Before all this started the entire thread was about how they had nothing to gain and would be screwed if they went for it so they won't. Then they did. Something we're not seeing must have changed that calculus and it's 50/50 if that something is sane.
 
Yes it is but fucking with and possibly permanently damaging the world financial system where currently the U.S. rules just because of the dollar, in return for a temporary virtue signaling opportunity, is one of the few things so insanely dumb that please don't do it.
That's right.
Just let Russia stomp and shit wherever it wants. China too, surely they won't be emboldened by proto-commie Putin doing what he wants with minimal pushback. And neither of the two wanabe superpowers would ever try a smack at US sovereignty over the world even further down the line.
That's the part that worries me. Before all this started the entire thread was about how they had nothing to gain and would be screwed if they went for it so they won't. Then they did. Something we're not seeing must have changed that calculus and it's 50/50 if that something is sane.
I bet you food stamp coupons that if Russia would've overrun Kyiv in two days, the West would have released a strongly worded statement or two, but since the war was over and Putin rules Ukraine now, what can you do?
But since Ukraine held the fort long enough and a massive wave of public support happened, the powers have be have nowhere to go, but to join the "resistance to tyranny".
Still, I bet if Putin wasn't going nuts right before this, he must be losing his shit right now.
 
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