Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Oil is now over $105 a barrel. Who was that fucknut who said we need to be okay with it to own Putin?

"You have to make sacrifices (but we conveniently do not)! Grow a Victory Garden and carpool, we wanna LARP like it's WW2!"
Also don't high oil prices benefit Russia as an oil exporter? Some own...

You know, America used to produce a lot of oil before President Biden intentionally damaged that industry and Democrats cheered.
 
I did not pay for this copy of the mirror btw
 

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That Tucker thread on /k/ has topkek memes.

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>georgi floydinov
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What wut?
can't find it right now, but basically some anon baked some very special muffins (I think it was muffins) for a meetup and posted the ingredients later in a thread.
 
Yikes, you have cited something from the old times, pre Death of the Internet era. 2002ish.

There was a random comic out there that used the term Weeaboo. It has no meaning.
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Originally, Japanese obsessed Westerners were called Wapanese. Back in 2003, as more and more anime/manga shitters spread out, some of the 4chan anime/manga fans and the ones who didn't want to deal with that shit (like the tabletop games or weaponry boards) called them Wapanese. Well, one day someone replaced Wapanese with Weeaboo, like how we used to see exceptional individual replaced with Exceptional Individual.

So Anime and Manga obsessed westerners became Weeaboos.

In time, this spread to other cultures. A foreigner obsessed with Korea is a Koreaboo. A foreigner obsessed with or supporting Russia would be a Russiaboo.
"A random comic"

Motherfucker that's the Perry Bible Fellowship not some random comic.
 
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russia is not that important
According to so many people arguing that all the non-Western and anti-Western countries will be looking for alternatives to SWIFT (and therefore break US dollar hegemony) now that it is shown to be a NATO foreign policy tool, it is.

Except, if the Iran-Russia-China axis had developed an alternative to SWIFT or whatever global financial systems the West has, they would have brought it out long ago.

Apparently, making an international financial system or new international reserve currency is actually quite hard, and not something any odd country or even ring of countries can just do on a whim. Not to mention the distinct possibility that Russia, China, Iran, India, Venezuela, etc. just aren't capable of making such a system regardless.
 
So it's starting to look like there are enough reports about abandoned Russian armor piling up to assume that there's a kernel of truth to it past the obvious Ukranian propaganda. What could explain it? The easiest explanation is that dumb conscripts were shocked to find out that this is a for realsies invasion and waited to get far enough away from command to dip the fuck out, but that kind of feels like a Ukranian cope. Possibly a snap decision by lower level command when they realized that they'd quickly outran their logistical supply chain, so they decided to consolidate and move onward, assuming there would be a rear guard to take care of things? Aliens? I doubt we'll be getting any real answers for a good while.
From what I've read Western intel glowies believe that

-Russian command and planning rigidity is holding them back because Ukrainian resistance is stiffer than the plans allowed for (aka typical Russia)
-Coordination between vehicles, infantry, artillery and aircraft is bad (aka typical Russia)
-And yes dumb conscripts were sent in with bad intelligence and expectations and it has had some effect on morale (aka typical Russia)

These three things allegedly keep resulting in Russian armor vehicles advancing without infantry support and getting ambushed by Ukrainian infantry using the Western anti tank rockets, and Russian soldiers abandoning vehicles

The alleged bad coordination is also allegedly hampering Russia from exploiting its air supremacy, they don't want to bomb their own troops or shoot down their own planes. As such, Ukraine has had good success attacking supply convoys with drones because the convoys don't have air cover

Also they think Russia has now committed about 80% of the soldiers it gathered for the war. The first couple days they were using a little under 1/3

And finally what makes me think yay it's all propaganda is that Western glowie sources say their agencies awkshoolly believe that over 5,000 Russians have been captured or killed (mostly captured) and several thousand more wounded which really there is no evidence for like large numbers of wounded being evacuated to field hospitals or farther back into Russia, and no evidence of large numbers of Russian prisoners
 
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you say this because you think about it like a realist. but the people who rule the west are not realists, they are idealists. they see themselves as part of a righteous moral crusade to spread liberal democracy across the planet, because to them liberal democracy is the greatest and most beautiful thing ever and anybody resisting it must be inherently evil.
Except they're the same people who were writing articles two weeks ago saying that "freedom" is a white supremacist concept.

I don't think they're idealists at all. I think they're either conniving opportunists or mindless NPCs brainwashed by those conniving opportunists.
 
Well at least the ((investment bankers)) took an L out of this.

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Good, maybe real estate prices will stop being higher than Golden Neckbeard on any day that ends in Y.
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OH NO WHAT WILL THE GHOST OF KIEV FLY NOW!!!!!
"We are currently sending KEEV the F-45. It's like the F-35 but designed to kill Russians mo betta!' - CNN tweet, circa 2023.
At very first glance, I thought I might be looking at one of Paul Harrell's characteristic jackets @Meat Target
How would Putinbros ever recover from *that*
>We're out in Lviv today so please bear with any gunfire you may hear in the background
If they did send Harrell over to Ukraine, he would spend 45 minutes explaining something that we already know, upload it to YouTube, and within a week have 120 more videos uploaded talking shit about people talking shit about his original video.
That's not even a real general. It's a man playing dress-up as a woman playing dress-up as a general in the name of Muh Public Health.
I know, I am being an asshoe.
That is the only positive outcome we can hope for, other than: based Chads murder Zelensky and Putin overnight, CNN and MSNBC self-implode from stupidity and pedo related arrests, Donald Trump rides into the White House on a velociraptor, and the entire country watches it eat Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer live and in color on the nightly news.
 
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According to so many people arguing that all the non-Western and anti-Western countries will be looking for alternatives to SWIFT (and therefore break US dollar hegemony) now that it is shown to be a NATO foreign policy tool, it is.

Except, if the Iran-Russia-China axis had developed an alternative to SWIFT or whatever global financial systems the West has, they would have brought it out long ago.

Apparently, making an international financial system or new international reserve currency is actually quite hard, and not something any odd country or even ring of countries can just do on a whim. Not to mention the distinct possibility that Russia, China, Iran, India, Venezuela, etc. just aren't capable of making such a system regardless.
No, it exists and is called SPEDS SPFS. Nobody just had any reason to use it yet when a reliable alternative was already available with all kinks ironed out.
 
A schism in Russian Orthodox church. "No earthly power shall make you safe from the Day of Judgment". The clergy are calling to end the war, most likely against the will of the Patriarch who is buddy-buddy with Putin.

Among other things, they call against detaining anti-war protesters: "Non-violent calls for peace and an end to war must not be forcibly suppressed and seen as a violation of the law, for the Divine commandment says "Blessed are the makers of peace".
>Church
Flammenwerfer awaits. :suffering:
 
Why do people assume they know how many people have been killed? Why are people trusting liars? It's all so tiresome.

"Hur dur Ukrainians say they've killed 5k"
"Hur dur Ukranians say ghost of Kiev shot down 6 jets"
"Hur dur I believe this because I saw it on the TV and the internet that I also know where the full court press is going on propaganda wise"
 
There are so many possibilities: Putin is insane, Putin really wants to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine, Putin wants to secure the russian border, Putin goes cock on table because someone called his "bluff" in some behind the scenes negotiations, Putin just wants to beat down NATO talks with Ukraine. There are probably 100s of reasons, and we will never know, not knowing the full picture. Who knows what the official reasoning will be after everything settles and if it coincides with the truth...
I'm starting to think he realized that if he didn't invade, "the world" was going to pretend that he did. So he'd better do it.

The apparatus that's produced a thousand fake stories (with stills and video)—and fake feelings—of Ukrainian heroism vs. Russian evil wasn't invented last weekend.

There's so little news coverage of on-the-ground military events because no reporters were sent. No real events were expected. They were just going to lie.
 
Sir, please understand that nobody in the "Western world" and "Western-adjacent world" are going to send troops to an East Slavic borderland to fight for a country nobody has any actual obligations to (anymore) and is a source of major corruption and even some petty tyranny in Europe.
Calling Ukraine corrupt at this point is like pointing in the desert and being shocked to see sand. Every single country in the world is massively corrupt, the whole covid bullshit proved it, if nothing else.
I completely get why nobody wants to send in troops and that's valid. Still, Ukraine isn't some backwater middle eastern oil farm, besides what resources and labor power it has, at this point it's a symbolic war to see if Europe will cow down to Putin's bullshit or manage to fight back.
Ukraine only ever had use to the "West" as a buffer against Russia, hence the US support in the Euromaiden protests that saw a pro-Russian Ukrainian prime minister get ousted from office.
To "facilitate" a protest, you still need to find people to support it and as someone who knows many people with deep routes in Ukraine, I can guarantee you that Ukraine would rather be West than ever go back East, alike with the eastern block countries who fucked off the soviets as soon as they could and are by far better for it, something that Ukraine wants, even if it's having a hard time achieving it. The sentiment is very strong there.
Taiwan, however, has several important alliances with several important countries, not just in the "Western world", but in the "Wester-adjacent world" in East and Southeast Asia. Japan and South Korea are especially sympathetic to Taiwanese aims for independence. Taiwan is also a central node in global microchip production and trade, and nobody is going to tolerate CCP-ruled China having any sort of grip on that.
What you say is true, but if West can't unite against a fag like Putin, which fortunately it seems it has, what would make you think people would care for Taiwan? In war, public sentiment is very important, problem is, the public are morons and they would not have cared for whatever economic benefits Taiwan had, until it was too late and the island was long lost to the commies. Now, with Ukraine being a rallying cry against said tyranny, and would Ukraine somehow actually prevail in the war, you can bet your ass China will have at least a second doubt about attacking it, all the while those above the public who realise how important Taiwan actually is will have a much easier way to rally the world and its militaries to protect Taiwan, or at least lets hope so lol
Taiwan is not a source of major corruption or any sort of genuine tyranny, and hasn't been since 1995.
That is just such bullshit, especially in this current context lol
How did you even force yourself to type this sentence out?
Just like how nobody was going to tolerate Saddam Hussein mucking about in Kuwaiti oil fields.
You're right. If Saddam had been tolerated way back ago, eventually he would have started some shit and the Iraq ar would have happened anyway, anyhow.
TL;DR: I don't care about Ukraine, backwater among backwaters that it is, but I would be glad to fight for the state, the Republic, even the Nation of Taiwan.
TL;DR: You should care in the sense that Ukraine is at least a mental staging ground for a war for Taiwan.
Because the Russian Empire isn't the Qing Dynasty.
Because the Soviet Union isn't Maoist China.
Because Taiwan isn't Ukraine.
A dictator's a dictator, a partisan is a partisan no matter where or how.
 
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