Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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This is what draws my suspicion too, if they were really getting mass defectors and casualties, Ukranian media would be parading them nonstop. Instead we get an occasional video of Russian prisoners obviously under duress, and a few pictures / videos of bodies, but nothing on the level Ukraine is claiming.

there is a flood of those videos for at least a day or two, I just don't have time to copy/paste hundreds of them here.

look for telegram channels, twitter links, there are entire sites that aggregate all that.

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What has China been up to? I know that there was that rumour that they were sharing US intelligence with the Russians, but other than that I feel like they have been very quiet.
Licking their chops over Taiwan and having Russia as a new client state. All these sanctions on Russia will create a financial Iron Curtain.
 
It will be far more parallel if Putin wins, then eventually decide that maybe attacking NATO is worth another huge risk, so iching away at America's influence bit by bit, all the while Taiwan probably gets lost, especially when Western allies don't seem to be able to trust for US support.
If Taiwan was something that may happen 5 years from now, it'd be more superficial, but since that shit is possibly only months away, the future of Ukraine is very important now.
What's the big deal with Putin going after a NATO country after Ukraine? What would be the difference fighting then vs now?
 
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So I guess I got a bit of intel today on the normie opinion from my mom (she’s Gen X). Anyway, I was saying of how that the crackdown on news sites like Russia Today is not a good thing because it forces you to only get one side of the actual conflict. My mom says that she doesn’t trust anything Putin says and pretty much agrees with the crackdown on Russia Today. Her mind was blown when I told her that actual Nazis do exist in Ukraine under stuff like the Avoz Battalion. Apparently she thought Putin was making it up entirely. This thread is definitely ahead of the curve.
 
Just because he left the country the same day it would've happened.
But nothing happened that day that was particularly "out of the ordinary" given the circumstances involved.

No, the leader of the parliament resigned, but not him.
Looking it up more, I guess Viktor Yanukovych never did formally resign. He just permanently fled the country after signing a compromise agreement with opposition leaders. Which, in real terms, amounts to basically the same thing as resigning anyway.

The procedure was done with violations, therefore it was illegitimate.
Nobody would have cared about technicalities in the chaos that was late-stage Euromaidan, and they could have honestly charged him with anything, considering. This rules-lawyering is, frankly, quite stereotypically Jewish anyway.
 
In nazi germany you could face execution for listening to enemy broadcasts...
Apply this to <current year information technology> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feindsender
That's a surprisingly common occurrence, and not just in Germany during ww2. Although to be fair, it's probably only surprising because of not living near any of the shitholes that do that type of stuff. For now that is.
 
I watched that "Ukraine on Fire" flick and even if half of that shit is true - holy shit. I don't know who are bigger cucks - the poles for sucking Ukraine cock after what was done to them or the Ukrainian Double Lightning Bolt Crew for basically being Soros' Cuckpups.
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ah yes, the famous neo nazis of ukraine, marching to their deaths at the orders of their jewish president while he posts holocaust related whining on twitter lol

ive said it before, anybody thinking azov (or any of the other ukie paramilitary guys) are serious nazis is retarded. they do the larp because it's hardcore and edgy, which naturally appeals to the type of guy who would join a paramilitary unit. they do not have serious political positions or aspirations beyond "fuck russia"

it's probably somewhat comparable to that one US marine sniper unit that sparked a little media outrage a while ago because they posed for a photo shoot with an SS flag in afghanistan lol

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What has China been up to? I know that there was that rumour that they were sharing US intelligence with the Russians, but other than that I feel like they have been very quiet.

I'm starting to agree with the users who think this is going to end up being a whole big deal... But it doesn't seem like a war that the west is poised to win, I feel it by the way larger countries are dragging their feet.
Chinese Intelligence likely has their eyes glued to this shit. They've otherwise been fairly subdued it seems, beyond a few of the usual aggressive flybys in Taiwanese airspace.

Really though, still on the subject of captured Russian armor, is it actually going to have any effect on the real outcome? Do the Ukranians have enough trained crews to operate and service these vehicles, and are they close enough to where they need to be? You can't just drop dumbfuck infantry or levied militia into mobile rocket artillery, and the further you have to move it to get to the front, the more likely you are to run into angry russians that either want their shit back or want to deny you use of their shit. Maybe the Russians upon discovering this was 't going to be the cakewalk they thought it would be, decided to leave behind what they might lose to enemy fire because they figured "fuck it, once we win we'll get it back anyways". Or maybe the Russians are just riffing now and command has 0 control over the situation. Fog of war is super frustrating.
 
But nothing happened that day that was particularly "out of the ordinary" given the circumstances involved.
Yeah, except armed nationalist firing left and right in the capital from the stolen guns. I am not a big fan of him, but it's obvious they were closing in, since hours later they took over his residence.

Which, in real terms, amounts to basically the same thing as resigning anyway.
"In real terms" doesn't mean shit in governmental procedures. It's like if I am gonna parry evidence in court with "look, I am a good person and would never do this".

Nobody would have cared about technicalities in the chaos that was late-stage Euromaidan, and they could have honestly charged him with anything, considering.
Which sounds exactly like overthrowing a government i.e. coup. Their only problem was that he stayed alive.
 
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